when adultry has been commited!!

[zahra2011]

:salam2:
sisters and brothers,
I have wondered this for years when a Muslim person commits adultery what gives other Muslims the right to stone them to death. Does Allah (swt) give them good deeds for this or dose the person who stoned them get punished? The reason I ask this is because Muslims say its haram to kill and this is one of the biggest sins but then again when someone commits adultery it’s ok to kill them I don’t understand this because in a way it’s hypocritical I think no one has the right to kill and punish except Allah (swt). What are your views about this??

 

[Perseveranze]

1. Only the state (a Muslim one) can carry out the punishment.

2. You need 4 witnesses (people who actually SAW you commit adultery).

3. All 4 of those witnesses need to be of a "good character".

Point I'm getting at is, the law is there to scare people into not doing it. Adultery has so many downsides, it's a virus to society.

If you really are sad and weak enough to commit adultery, your very likely to not get caught, unless your extremely stupid, in which case you probably deserve it. If you don't get caught (like in most cases) then you had better repent to God like never before.

 

[hayat84]

:salam2:
it's the Decree of Allah.it's also a deterrent aginst Fitna.may Allah guides us.
the only problem is that it may be possible that some ignorants accuse a woman of adultery even if she's innocent and some corrupted witnesses may testify her guilt.I saw on tv a woman stoned untll death because she felt in love of muslim boy who belonged to another tribe.Allah knows best.I would never be one of those guilty women who suffer for the ashame and the pain to be killed stone by stone.But I suppose that nowdays this islamic practice is decreasing,because of the increasing fitna.there is no fear and no obedience.:shymuslima1:

 

[auroran]

:salam2:

Muslims fear Allaah's punishment so that is what keeps us from doing haraam things but some Muslims may follow their desires and do haraam things anyway. They don't fear Allaah's punishment. They may fear the punishment of the Muslim state. If they think they can get away with it, the punishment in the next life is waiting for them.

Zina builds a corrupt society, I mean look at the places where zina takes place, they are suffering the consequences, for example AIDS.

:salam2:

 

[ahmed_indian]

you are right that killing a person is haraam in Islam.

but here we are talking about sinful people and not innocents. killing a murderer is not haraam.....killing a rapist is not haraam....(of course, these executions are done by the govt.)

people who commit sex outside marriage are told to be stoned....as they are doing injustice and cheating their spouses. if no tight punishment will be kept, many many members of the society will do it. and the result? unwanted pregnancies, abortions, family breakdown, heartbreaks due to being cheated, hatred/murder towards the spouse due to being cheated behind the back!

how many have been killed in Islamic history due to stoning? very few. but this fear of punishment has protected the society greatly.

 

[Asja]

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarakatuhu dear sister

As we know that adultery is big sin in our deen islaam and it is couse of great harm for those who commit it like individuals but as well couse of harm for all society and on the end it is evil way,and something what displease and couse anger of Allah subhan wa teala.

As Allah subhan wa teala sais one these two places in in Quran:"And those who invoke not any other god along with Allah, nor kill such life as Allah has forbidden, except for just cause, nor commit illegal sexual intercourse (zina) and whoever does this shall receive the punishment. The torment will be doubled to him on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein in disgrace; except those who repent and believe and do righteous deeds, for those Allah will change their sins into good deeds, and Allah is Oft Forgiving, Most Merciful." (al-Furqaan,ayat 68-70)

"And come not near to unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a faahishah (a great sin) and an evil way." (Sura Al-Israa # 17 ayah # 32)

And these are the reason why adultery or fornification are strictly punish in Islaam, on that way we are remainded from Allah how that is evil deed and way of Shaytaan and that we need to stay away from it, by our looks, dressing, or doing it on the end Astagfirullah.May Allah subhan wa teala protect us, for He is The Best Protector.

We have shining example of one good Sahabiya, Muslim woman in the time of our Prophet Mohammed sallahu alayha wa saalam. After she commited adultery and had son from it, she came to Messanger of Allah sallahu alyha wa saalam and told him that she honestly repented to Allah for what she did,and asked that she be stoned on death. SubhanAllah. This is example of so high level of eman of this Muslim woman,and she choosed rather to be punished on this world and forgiven from Allah, than that she be punished on onother world.

I pray to Allah dear sister that we can all understand the beauty of our deen Islaam and wisdom and goodness behind every rulling.:tti_sister:

May Allah guide us all to the right path.

 

[zahra2011]

when adultry has been comminted!!

:salam2:

Dear sisters and brothers,

Thank you for your comments I understand that it’s a big sin and the ways of evil, but people say that this life is a test whether they decide to follow the shaytaan or they want follow Allah (swt) at the end of the day it’s people’s choice what they do with their lives that Allah (swt) gave them but they are going to get punished for their sins and its upsetting to know that humans think they have the rights or audacity to try an judge another human being when they may have many sins that no one know except Allah (swt). And after this execution takes place does the stoner get good deeds or is it a sin?

 

[saima abdullah]

asalam o alykum sister
rajaam (being stone to death ) is Hadd of Allah mentioned is quran but further in hadith it explains its a form of touba as a shabi presents himself before Allah's prophet for punishment and on few guys of medina had mocked and rediculed on charactor of that noble person so the Rasul Allah S.A.W stoped them by saying that his touba is enough for whole of medina . (coz its so worthy in sight of Allah S.A.W ) if a muslim goverment punish a person its better for his hereafter rather then to get exteme punishment in hereafter ...
by the way in this world every country have laws in which they set some rules to regulalte the social system freedom of choice dose not mean to make this worlds a jungle . and there is a full law of evidance that take care that witness is fair and one have to bring 4 eye witnesses to prove his/her claim ..and according to scholers of tafser it to hide the sin .and Allah will not look at 7 kind of persons on day of judgment one of them is 'one who blame a innocent women of adultry so its a whole system .i suggest you to read sharah of surah e norr and pray for you may Allah open your hearth to learn ameen

 

[Ahsen]

I had this question in my mind from a long time.Why 4 witnesses are needed to punish them.People usually do these kind of things in private.What if only 1 person saw them?

 

[Perseveranze]

I had this question in my mind from a long time.Why 4 witnesses are needed to punish them.People usually do these kind of things in private.What if only 1 person saw them?

That's what I'm talking about, the law is there to scare people and it's worked extremely well.

If 1 person catches you it's not enough, you need 3 more. That's the law.

 

[saima abdullah]

I had this question in my mind from a long time.Why 4 witnesses are needed to punish them.People usually do these kind of things in private.What if only 1 person saw them?[/QUOTE
it is to hide the publicity of sin,,,,Allah as maximized he chance to go such things in public bcoz such things give room to evil doings grow ..... Allahu Allaam bi sawaaab

 

[zahra2011]

when adultry has been comminted!!

:salam2:
Dear sisters and brothers
I absolutely agree with you thanks for the comments, I think that stoning people to death is crawl weather it there to scare people or not it’s not right and if people want to commit adultery that’s up to them whether there are witness or not but with Allah’s (swt) guidance people will stop and look that this life is a test and obey and serve Allah (swt).

 

[Asja]

:salam2:
Dear sisters and brothers
I absolutely agree with you thanks for the comments, I think that stoning people to death is crawl weather it there to scare people or not it’s not right and if people want to commit adultery that’s up to them whether there are witness or not but with Allah’s (swt) guidance people will stop and look that this life is a test and obey and serve Allah (swt).

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarakatuhu

Dear sister for the sake of Alah, we should be carefull with our words, because Shariah and law of Allah for us Muslims is and it should be on the first place. Because if we say against law of Allah, than we are doing big sin, and if we do not understand something from law of Allah, than we should ask gudinace of Allah.

Please forgive me if I said anything wrong dear sister or if my words were harsh toward you, but it is obligatory for us Muslims to belive and practise Shariah, Allahs law because the pleasure of Allah subhan wa teala is above everything SubhanAllah. And Allah knows the best.

And as we know that Muslims who commited big sins, between them is adultery as well, may be punihsed with much severe punishment on Onother World,and you should ask yourselfe sister, is this kind of punishment " cruel", SubhanAllah, or it is only justice?

May Allah guide us all to the right path that He is pleased. Ameen Ya Rabby.:tti_sister:

 

[abdul-aziz]

:salam2:
sisters and brothers,
I have wondered this for years when a Muslim person commits adultery what gives other Muslims the right to stone them to death. Does Allah (swt) give them good deeds for this or dose the person who stoned them get punished? The reason I ask this is because Muslims say its haram to kill and this is one of the biggest sins but then again when someone commits adultery it’s ok to kill them I don’t understand this because in a way it’s hypocritical I think no one has the right to kill and punish except Allah (swt). What are your views about this??

:salam2:

your question needs a little pause and reflection. So hold on and lets look at what Allah says directly to you and I.
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[Hilali-Khan] And march forth in the way (which leads to) forgiveness from your Lord, and for Paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared for Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2). [3:133]

Those who spend [in Allah's Cause - deeds of charity, alms, etc.] in prosperity and in adversity, who repress anger, and who pardon men; verily, Allah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good-doers). [3:134]

And those who, when they have committed Fahishah (illegal sexual intercourse etc.) or wronged themselves with evil, remember Allah and ask forgiveness for their sins; - and none can forgive sins but Allah - And do not persist in what (wrong) they have done, while they know. [3:135]

For such, the reward is Forgiveness from their Lord, and Gardens with rivers flowing underneath (Paradise), wherein they shall abide forever. How excellent is this reward for the doers (who do righteous deeds according to Allah's Orders). [3:136]

Many similar ways (and mishaps of life) were faced by nations (believers and disbelievers) that have passed away before you (as you have faced in the battle of Uhud), so travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who disbelieved (in the Oneness of Allah, and disobeyed Him and His Messengers). [3:137]
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Now if you read the ayah 3:135 tafsir, the commentary mentions something to the effect that the Jews used to post signs or markings on the door of the house of who committed adultery. They used to say something to the effect may Allah cut his/her ear off. So on and so forth. The community will also treat the people very differently, like in a disgust way. So Allah sent this ayah down to the muslims, to allow repentance and in silence.

Of course where there rule of law, there are some very difficult requirements to like accuse and try a person of adultery. First there needs to be 4 witnesses. Let's face it, what is the chances that 4 people would come upon a person committing such an act. But nevertheless, it is Allah who states the way we should live, we just say we listen and obey.

sorry I didn't answer you with exactly what you are looking for, but this is what I know.