Women's education?What is ur opinion?

[mahussain3]

Assalamualykum to all brother and sisters,

Hope ur all in best state of health and in Ima'an...
actually today i haa a long discussion with my cousin from Dubai about the women's education.He said " there is hadees, saying teach ur girls, daughters, sisters, upto only calculations who are capable of managing household accounts"..
wants to know is this is true?please share your thoughts about this issues strictly with in the limits of Shariah...

JAzak-Allah

 

[ShyHijabi]

Salaam,

There is absolutely NO hadith that limits the amount of education one can give a female. It sounds like this friend has rather mysogynistic views and wants to use religion as an excuse for his ignorance. Is he completely unaware of the fact that one of the best scholars in Islam was Aisha? (ra)

The Quran and hadith constantly instruct parents to give equally to their children when it comes to emotional and material wealth, regardless of gender. If he is making a claim opposite then it is his responsibility to provide proof and not just some vague mention of "some hadith." Man this comment he made has me so mad.

Wasalaam

 

[kayleigh]

Sounds like sexist culture, not Islam. I agree with ShyHijabi - there is, and should be no limit to education regardless of sex.

 

[ahmed_indian]

i dont think its a saying of prophet (peace be upon him). maybe its told by some traditional alims. i've heard it before.

both, men and women needs to be given education but the priorities should be right.

1. teach both of them (and not only just one gender) Islam first. secular education comes second.

2. teach them in seperate schools (otherwise u cant control the unIslamic stuff no matter how hard u try).

3. regarding women, they should not indulge themselves too much in education and career that they forget their main duty: taking care of home and family.

And its the duty of goverment and society as a whole.

 

[mahussain3]

Dear brothers and sisters,

He is not against Giving Islamic Education,He mean to say that all this hadiths talks only about Islamic Education,not maths or science..thats what i want to clear...he is not saying that girls should not be given islamic education,but he is saying that we should give only islamic education...plz try to understand his point of view...and do let me know...
Jazak-Allahu Khairan

 

[abubaseer]

Assalamualykum to all brother and sisters,

Hope ur all in best state of health and in Ima'an...
actually today i haa a long discussion with my cousin from Dubai about the women's education.He said " there is hadees, saying teach ur girls, daughters, sisters, upto only calculations who are capable of managing household accounts"..
wants to know is this is true?please share your thoughts about this issues strictly with in the limits of Shariah...

JAzak-Allah

:salam2: Akhi,

Just to point out that there are female students of knowledge even today...
Here is Link of list of female students of Shaykh Muqbil Rahimhullah and their contributions...

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55401&highlight=female+students

Also, please check this thread about similiar issue -->
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57550&highlight=bilal+phillips

 

[ShyHijabi]

Salaam,

Unless there is sound daleel about limiting a female's education, in any respect, then it is bidah. Furthermore I think it a return to jahiliya, this desire to "limit a female's education." Seriously? So who exactly will be doctors, nurses, and other necessary jobs for women? If you limit a woman's education to that which keeps her in the house then basically you are saying only men can examine your wives...deliver their babies, and provide them with medical care.

Do you see the contradiction in limiting a female's education? Even secularly. If there isn't some daleel then this is all rubbish, I don't care who the alim/scholar/sheik is, it's rubbish without sound daleel.

Wasalam

 

[ShyHijabi]

For whatever it's worth...

What are the fields which it is permissible for a woman to learn? Is it permissible for her to work as a lawyer and take on cases representing others as much as she is able to?


Praise be to Allaah.

Women may learn about their religion and whatever will be of use to them in their lives as wives and mothers. Then if a woman is able and circumstances are suitable, she may learn other things too. There is no reason why she should not learn the profession of teaching, whether she teaches in women’s schools or in her own home.

A woman may also learn medicine and nursing, especially in the field of women’s diseases (gynaecology), so that she can be a women’s doctor or a women’s nurse, and women will not be forced to go to male doctors.

It is permissible for a woman to represent another person in a case, hence it is permissible for her to be a lawyer, because lawyers represent defendants. However, the field of law nowadays has taken a wrong turning. Moreover, the lawyer needs to mix with the defendants and attend court, etc., and women are not allowed to do any of these things. So it is not appropriate for women to become lawyers so long as things remain as they are.



Wilaayat al-Mar’ah fi’l-Fiqh al-Islami p. 690

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/11551

Hmmm nothing about "limiting to figures" in there. Me thinks this is just another bakcwards, cultural belief...this limiting of education for females.

 

[ahmed_indian]

Salaam,

Unless there is sound daleel about limiting a female's education, in any respect, then it is bidah. So who exactly will be doctors, nurses, and other necessary jobs for women? If you limit a woman's education to that which keeps her in the house then basically you are saying only men can examine your wives...deliver their babies, and provide them with medical care.
Wasalam

bidah? i think you are going quite far. Bidah means adding/changing something in Islam. and women not studying/not drving do not fall in that category.

one more clarification, in old days when ppl were uneducated i think the there were mid-wives for delivering babies. men were not needed

i m not saying that stop female education or bring mid-wives back, just clarifying the misconceptions.

 

[Asiya-sparkles]

bidah? i think you are going quite far. Bidah means adding/changing something in Islam. and women not studying/not drving do not fall in that category.

one more clarification, in old days when ppl were uneducated i think the there were mid-wives for delivering babies. men were not needed

i m not saying that stop female education or bring mid-wives back, just clarifying the misconceptions.

assalam alaikom wa rahmat Allah, even in the lifetime of our Prophet(saw) women were in business unrelated to medicine. Khadijah(ra) is a well documented proof. It is wrong to put limits upon women that Allah has not, to attribute restrictions to Islam that aren't part of shariah is bidah, surely? It is changing the rights given to women in Islam.

Many women have been great scholars in Islam which requires secular education to a higher level. Doctors and the midwife of today have deeper knowledge than assisting a woman in her delivery.

Mothers should be able to help their children too, including sons, need to acquire Islamic knowledge everyday of their lives ... language, understanding of written and spoken lexis, sciences, etceteras.

Alhamdulillah, many brothers value the woman asmore than a convenient vessel.

 

[Fatima S.Ar]

Assalamualykum to all brother and sisters,

Hope ur all in best state of health and in Ima'an...
actually today i haa a long discussion with my cousin from Dubai about the women's education.He said " there is hadees, saying teach ur girls, daughters, sisters, upto only calculations who are capable of managing household accounts"..
wants to know is this is true?please share your thoughts about this issues strictly with in the limits of Shariah...

JAzak-Allah

wa alaikom Assalam
In short , Islam gave the women all their rights in educatin , learning and teaching .

No one can take this right from us
and who says we don't have this right ??

 

[Happy 2BA Muslim]

:salam2:

Seeking knowledge is an obligation upon every Muslim. The type of knowledge that is obligatory upon every individual is religious knowledge. It is also obligatory upon some people in society to study every beneficial field of knowledge. For example, society needs doctors, both men and women. It becomes obligatory for some people to go into this field to fulfill the needs of society.

Women are allowed to pursue their academic interests and strive to fulfill their intellectual curiosity. To prevent women from getting an education is contrary to the teachings of Islam.

Many people perceive Islam as a chauvinistic religion that belittles women. They cite the condition of women in some Muslim countries to prove their point. Their mistake is that they fail to separate the culture of a given people from the true teachings of the religion that they profess. Women in many third world countries live horrible lives. They are dominated by men and denied many of their basic human rights. This does not apply to Muslim countries alone, nor does it apply to all Muslim countries.

Oppression of women exists in many cultures around the world. It would be unjust to blame these cultural practices on religious beliefs unless the teachings of the religion call to such behavior. The teachings of Islam clearly do not.

:salam2:

 

[Asiya-sparkles]

:salam2:

Seeking knowledge is an obligation upon every Muslim. The type of knowledge that is obligatory upon every individual is religious knowledge. It is also obligatory upon some people in society to study every beneficial field of knowledge. For example, society needs doctors, both men and women. It becomes obligatory for some people to go into this field to fulfill the needs of society.

Women are allowed to pursue their academic interests and strive to fulfill their intellectual curiosity. To prevent women from getting an education is contrary to the teachings of Islam.

Many people perceive Islam as a chauvinistic religion that belittles women. They cite the condition of women in some Muslim countries to prove their point. Their mistake is that they fail to separate the culture of a given people from the true teachings of the religion that they profess. Women in many third world countries live horrible lives. They are dominated by men and denied many of their basic human rights. This does not apply to Muslim countries alone, nor does it apply to all Muslim countries.

Oppression of women exists in many cultures around the world. It would be unjust to blame these cultural practices on religious beliefs unless the teachings of the religion call to such behavior. The teachings of Islam clearly do not.

:salam2:

Ma'shAllah, that was eloquently and emphatically stated!

 

[alparslan+90]

what about taking lessons together with guys?is it possible or there must be girls university and guys university?