Note: I do not have some pro-feminist - drop the dishes and get a job - kind of attitude.
I just don't approve of how this hadeeth was used to make a point and object to it.
Note: I do not have some pro-feminist - drop the dishes and get a job - kind of attitude.
I just don't approve of how this hadeeth was used to make a point and object to it.
As'alaamu Alaikkum
Your objection noted. Do the opposite of what you've said above, drop the job and do the dishes
Does that mean women have more temptation or are more tempted to things than men? because i think its kinda the opposite..
Not to forget that everyone is different and everyone has their own personalities, weaknesses and strengths...
Assalaam walaiklum,
If you are a simple man with simple pleasures you marry a simple woman.
Brother,
Where are you going with this thread? What is the purpose of this thread?
Muslim sisters strive to seek absolute knowledge. We have discussions regarding our roles as females. We have our duties as daughters. How, I miss my father. We have the roles of sisters...and how we act like sisters on this forum..and the role of mother...how much responsibility has Allah given us...to raise yet, another Believer. And the role we all dream about. The role of hope..the role of a wife..
Brother, we seek knowledge. We are grateful for our intelligence and humbled when it is recognized. We do not wish to displease one solitary act. Each act within the role makes us more confident of our Love.
Know that this hadith makes us aware of our obligations. It is a yellow flag on the road. So we must tread gently down a road and return to basics. We slow down on dangerous road. A wife who is feelings as if the road is getting dangerous, arguments and fithna needs to reflect on her duties as a wife as Described by the Creator. She needs to make salat and dua.
As'alaamu Alaikkum
Your objection noted. Do the opposite of what you've said above, drop the job and do the dishes
Now let's look at the above hadith in context.
2) And were it not for Eve no woman would ever betray her husband.
Eve was the first of the two to fall into temptation, then persuaded Adam to commit the sin thus this is the betrayal that is mentioned here. So it is betrayal which is disobedience. She disobeyed Adam in the sense that she was the first one to be seduced then she in turn seduced Adam to disobey the command of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala.
I'm sorry but the context is not wrong.
Wow. You're single, aren't you?
wa 'alaykum salaam
I believe what I have said is that I am 'not' one of those types, so your joke, or what have you is silly and unnecessary.
All I meant to say, was that your advice is not what I have a problem with, and on its own I would not object to it - but using the hadeeth without explanation - if you wrote the article (which came to mind last night) then without knowing or understanding it, and explaining it, I believe is absolutely wrong.
Who's context? Yours? Brother, with all due honesty, you're not a scholar. Nor do you even know Arabic thoroughly. Neither do I, which is why I don't bring my own words, and it would be safer for your Deen and your Aakhirah that you would quit making your own explanations and do the same. I believe you're an intelligent man, but intelligence only goes so far when it comes to the Deen and trying to present an explanation.
So in future, please bring the words of the scholars, or people with knowledge and not your own.
But the understanding is. Do you believe your words hold more weight than Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (a classical and highly respected scholar in Hadeeth) rahimahullaah who says otherwise?
I found another quote in relation to this:
Alhafith Bin Hajar said in his commentary about this Hadith.
" The meaning of betraying here does not mean at committing filthiness or sins. Betrayal here means that since self-desire longed to eat from the tree then it resulted with advising Adam about it."
In regards your question as if it place some blame on Hawa; Ibn hajar answers your question: " Since Eve ( Hawaa) is the mother of All daughters of Adam then her daughters gained similar traits as their mother like given birth, mood and so forth" he added later on: " Thus, all the women who came after their betrayal differs....and the Hadith is to put some ease on men minds to be patient for what happens from their wives as it happened with their great mother; Eve. So it advises them not to blame them on matters they did not mean to do or happens from them on rare occasions and in the same time it is an advice for women not to surrender to this trait but strive to oppose their own self-desires" [ Fathu Albari Fi Sharh Sahih Bukhari]
Source: http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe/showthread.php?t=1323
So women did not inherit her sin. Women did not inherit disobedience. And until and unless you can bring any scholar who has said they have, or have used this hadeeth to explain it as such, your words do not hold weight I am afraid.
wasalaam
I thought everybody knew that sis Aapa was single.
I can honestly say you are one the pettiest and most insulting person I've had the displeasure of coming across on this board. All of your posts are just extremely angry and usually involve your weird and inexplicable hatred of women. You have some sort of complex where you feel the need to put everyone down and assert your perceived superiority. Do you think you're funny? Because you're not.
I'm not even mad. Honestly, I'm a little amused, because you're pretty sad.
Yes, indeed I didn't realsise I was upsetting a lot of people here. I apologise. I think I have to get used to the idea of not using my own reasoning and using a 'scholar's' and I guess it will take a long time for me to get used to that.
May be you should delete this thread? I don't think I've conveyed what I set out to do, and probably is misleading as well with the title 'Disobeying wives..'.