a different perspective on f.c. a Must Read!

Jihan

Junior Member
This is the first time I've read a woman speaking out against something like this with full knowledge and sincerity. I am not saying I agree or disagree with her view, but i just loved how she spoke against the other woman (who did not seem sincere nor knowlegeable). The thing I enjoyed about this reading is the fact the voice actually sounded that of a somali (and muslim)woman: something I've never come across in any other anti-circumsion readings before. Also I was amazed at the woman's abilty to argue in a suddle way, without making a big commotion. Lastly, I find Nimao to be well informative about the back culture.


March 9th 1999
To Cheryl Garrett
The Observer

A reply to Waris Dirie

I do not know Waris Dirie but I am also Somali, also a woman and I
too was circumcised. I was nine. I remember running away when I
heard the screams of my two sisters who are cut before me. I was
held down, my head held back by one woman, my legs forced apart by
another. Yet I remember too, wanting it done because then I would be
like a real woman.

Now I bitterly regret it. I know the thousands of possible early
deaths and appalling suffering it causes to millions of women from
West Africa to Indonesia. Like thousands of Somalis I know live in
exile in the West and I know the humiliation of being asked by a doctor
if I have been burned or attacked and having to excuse it as a "Somali
custom". I will never allow it to happen to my daughters.

But to stop this horrible custom one must speak the truth about it and
this is where I differ from Dirie. She has been made a United Nations
ambassador on the issue of female circumcision but I am not sure if she
is the best person for this job. To change the practice in Somalia you
have to change the way Somalis think. That requires understanding and
sympathy, and it has to come from someone Somalis respect. Somalis are
Muslims and do not respect a Somali woman who poses half naked for fashion
displays or pictures for calendars for tyre makers.

The article describes her as anything but dishonest yet there are parts of
her book, Desert Flower, that are clearly made up, or at least not written
by her. It is littered with stories that just do not ring true to Somali
culture. Many of them seem borrowed from America and European life and the
attitudes she professed even more so. Pets for example. "Somalis just do
not keep animals as pets" She also claim that her father tried to sell her
to a 60-year old man for five camels. While her father may have intended
her to marry this man, is she not actually describing bride price? Giving
camels or money to the family of a bride is a traditional practice in
Somalia and has nothing to do with buying or selling.

I also find it hard to believe that if Dirie's mother spoke Italian and
had western education that she would have married a nomad man "because
she thought it would be so romantic to roam in the desert with her loved
one and be close to nature" No Somali, let alone an urban Somali, feels
romantic about nomadic life in the desert. Dirie is reading western feelings
into Somali culture

As a child we were told that circumcision would ensure virginity and that no
man would marry you if you were uncircumcised. No one ever said it was done
to give men more sexual pleasure. Men play no part in the practise. Some
agree with it some do not - my father was furious when he discovered it had
been done to us. The practice is carried out by female members of the Midgaan
clan, a low castle clan who are butchers, shoe makers and do other lowly jobs.
They are paid for their work but not well.

This book will reinforce western images of Africa as primitive and cruel and,
however much outrage her description of female circumcision may create in the
rest of the world; she will make no impact where it matters-in the hearts and
minds of Somalis.

By Nimao M
 

Saifu deen

Alhamdullah..
Assalam Alykom

I agree with nimo m. I am somalian myself, and I also believe that somalian people follow their culture rather than religion.

People in Somalia believe that tribe comes first and then religion. For example they downgrade other tribes or clans, as Nimo M stated ''Midgaan clan, a low castle clan who are butchers, shoe makers and do other lowly jobs''.

Basically to get famous and ensure economically security nowdays is to be against your religion ''ISLAM''. Basically ''Waris Dirie'' found fame, respect, by the westners because she attacked Islam. May Allah forgive her.

Anyone can become famous once you turn your back on Islam thats why the Kufaars feel joy and gave her award and protection..loool..

Somalians must come together, unless we follow the true teaching of our beloved Mohammed, and return the history of MadMolla, the somalian Mujahid against the English in the past... I dont see somalia coming together. One solution is to follow the United Arab Emirates where we can seperate regions and each region has its own ruler.....

May Allah bring peace and harmony in our muslim countries.. Amiin, Amiin
 

Jihan

Junior Member
I agree with you. somalia can unite yet have different rulers in different regions, this is what the united states does and they have one major ruler (president) for all the regions (states). i think that would be the best solutions for somliland and puntland to have their own rulers.
 

Saifu deen

Alhamdullah..
Assalam Alykom

Today many youngesters who were born in the west carry hate for different tribes. No matter how educated are we, we tend to fall to the same trap. We have doctors and professors around America and Europe but would they come together and forget the past. We somalian do not look forward for some reasons, we still remember the past, generation after generation.

Everything starts at home. Home is a major schooling that we neglet so often, we use tribe for marriage, and solve problems. However, we were adviced by our prophet (PBUH) to use the Qur'an and Sunnah in solving marriage matters, economically, faming, politcally ect.., but not tribes because we not suppose to use it in the first place.

I love Islamic movement ''Mahakem Islamia'', and I am not from their tribe, but I recommend them because they carry '' La ilaha ila Allah''. We did support them, but when they lost many critisize them and formed sort of idealogies about them. We dont have one word, and if we have one its temporary no matter what.

Many charity organisations gave up in Somalia, they build mosques (May Allah reward them), projects helping the orphans (after completing the full projects, they disagreed on minor elements because of triblisim)....

We getting robbed, westners are robbing our dimonds (Many organisations from China, UK, and Amercia are all involved), gold, monopoly on the famring.
The owner of the land gets 5000$ dollars, for 1,000,000,000 worth of quality dimonds in Somalia's mountains. Although we have strategic location, oil, nature resources, we remain poor... Really Really sad...

May Allah help us and make us among those who make different...Amiin, Amiin, Amiin...
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
I do think that female circumcision is one of the most disgusting and horrid things you can ever do to a young girl, after rape and other forms or sexual abuse, and I could never, ever do something that horrible to my daughter. I absolutely agree with this woman. You need to attack the root of the problem, not just the surface problem, if you want something changed.
 

Aliyah206

Junior Member
Assalamu ALiykum
..Niamo M..spit the truth while that other writer created this bad image of Somalians ..to gain fame or money i guess...yes some of the things she said might be true but not in a correct form..i don't agree with circumcisions also but that's not an obligatory act in somali...it's cultural pratice..not an islamic one....
~~but anywas thanxx JIJI for this great facts..and hey who is this Niamo M?
 

Aliyah206

Junior Member
Assalamu ALiykum
..Niamo M..spit the truth while that other writer created this bad image of Somalians ..to gain fame or money i guess...yes some of the things she said might be true but not in a correct form..i don't agree with circumcisions also but that's not an obligatory act in somali...it's cultural pratice..not an islamic one....
~~but anywas thanxx JIJI for this great facts..and hey who is this Niamo M?
 

Jihan

Junior Member
Assalamu ALiykum
..Niamo M..spit the truth while that other writer created this bad image of Somalians ..to gain fame or money i guess...yes some of the things she said might be true but not in a correct form..i don't agree with circumcisions also but that's not an obligatory act in somali...it's cultural pratice..not an islamic one....
~~but anywas thanxx JIJI for this great facts..and hey who is this Niamo M?

i dunno I just ran into her response to Desert Flower ( the autobiography of waris) and liked it.
 
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