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Seeker_2601

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I've seen on many other Islamic forums that people are quick to denounce groups like the taliban and Al-Qaeda, but very rarely do I see any negitive thoughts on Hamas. Do you believe that they practice true Islam, or their own political agenda wrapped in Islam? Lets discuss...
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
Hamas is an Organization which is a Offspring of the Ikwanul Muslimeen(Muslim Brotherhood), and Scholars have labeled the Ikwanul Muslimeen as one of the 72 Sects. They are not Upon the Haqq(Truth). No Reason to Debate go down to the Islamic Knowledge Base and check the links for " Deviant Sects and Callers".
 

Abdel 3Aziz

New Member
Hamas is an Organization which is a Offspring of the Ikwanul Muslimeen(Muslim Brotherhood), and Scholars have labeled the Ikwanul Muslimeen as one of the 72 Sects. They are not Upon the Haqq(Truth). No Reason to Debate go down to the Islamic Knowledge Base and check the links for " Deviant Sects and Callers".

Be kind to justify your take on Hamas.
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Agree, Hamas is the legitimate administrator of Gaza. US and the west promote democracy but when their enemy elected ligitimately through democracy process by the majority of people it will be rejected by the same US and the West. ???Actual democracy is you bow to US, right???

I'm not sure about Hamas's Islamic background but so far I only hear positive about them.
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
honestly, i believe hamas has done so much for palestine. i mean sure they make mistakes like any other beings, but it's because of them that palestine still stands. majority of the palestinians and Muslims alike support hamas, and so do i. this my opinion, that they are good people and that inshaAllah they will succeed. only Allah knows what's in their hearts, so let's not judge a book by it's cover.
asalamu alaykum wrwb.
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
I think that Hamas is a promising hope for all muslems making a brilliant example of a muslem society : They are not angels or perfect but I am sure they are sincere muslems trying to obey Allah swt on earth. No man is perfect only the prophet :saw: We muslems should make our hearts pure towards others and try to help our brothers and sisters and if we have better knoweldge in Islam we should make a good advice to correct their way. Shaytan is trying his best to divide muslems so they will never rise. Hamas gave a very good lesson to the Umma.
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
I think that Hamas is a promising hope for all muslems making a brilliant example of a muslem society : They are not angels or perfect but I am sure they are sincere muslems trying to obey Allah swt on earth. No man is perfect only the prophet :saw: We muslems should make our hearts pure towards others and try to help our brothers and sisters and if we have better knoweldge in Islam we should make a good advice to correct their way. Shaytan is trying his best to divide muslems so they will never rise. Hamas gave a very good lesson to the Umma.

Mashaallah, i could not have said it better. Jazakallahu khayran. asalamu alaykum wrwb .:)
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Hamas has a lot of members that are upon the sunnah of Salafu Soleh . They do regard music as haram also. And for Salem to declare them as deviant requires him to repent to Allah subahanAllah Wa Ta'la. I ask Allah to forgive you and if you dont have any knowledge it is upon you to shut up
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
Who are we to judge and claim others as being deviant? please brothers and sisters in Islam, reflect and think twice before you speak. We need to look at ourselves before we look at others...we need to change ourselves before we try chaning others....and last but not least one simple question : We point fingers at others whom we think have not helped palestine...but the question is, what have WE DONE TO HELP PALESTINE? so before claiming others as being deviant, let's take a second look at ourselves. ya rab!
asalamu alaykum wrwb.
 

malickabrother

save Palestine!
Who are we to judge and claim others as being deviant? please brothers and sisters in Islam, reflect and think twice before you speak. We need to look at ourselves before we look at others...we need to change ourselves before we try chaning others....and last but not least one simple question : We point fingers at others whom we think have not helped palestine...but the question is, what have WE DONE TO HELP PALESTINE? so before claiming others as being deviant, let's take a second look at ourselves. ya rab!
asalamu alaykum wrwb.

:salam2: sister you're 100% right,we are so quick judging others while we don't look at ourselves and judge ourselves,and by the way judgment is only for ALLAH,I just can't understand why some muslims are alway pointing out on other muslims.

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YUSUFALI: And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to Allah. Then shall every soul be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly.


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YUSUFALI: Every soul will be (held) in pledge for its deeds.

May ALLAH guide all muslims on the right path?Ameen
:wasalam:
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
:salam2: sister you're 100% right,we are so quick judging others while we don't look at ourselves and judge ourselves,and by the way judgment is only for ALLAH,I just can't understand why some muslims are alway pointing out on other muslims.

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YUSUFALI: And fear the Day when ye shall be brought back to Allah. Then shall every soul be paid what it earned, and none shall be dealt with unjustly.


074.038
YUSUFALI: Every soul will be (held) in pledge for its deeds.

May ALLAH guide all muslims on the right path?Ameen
:wasalam:

JazakAllahu khayran akhi. May Allah reward you. the thing is...we can't declare other people as being kafirs or as being deviant when they claim to be Muslims. We are not with them when they're praying or fasting, or giving charity. who knows maybe they even do more than we do. Maybe Allah loves them more than he loves us. Maybe they're more pious and righteous than we are. so to declare someone else as being deviant or so on, is definitely wrong. Allah is the one who judges. Some people whom i have encountered seem to think they're always right about others...but what if they're so so wrong, that on the day of judgement Allah condemns them for it. Allah created us all, we are all equal except in PIETY. we need to work on ourselves rather than to point fingers at others. There's a saying that "when you point one finger, there are 3 point back at you". Instead of blaming and accusing other people, instead of slandering and backbiting our own brothers we need to think about what situation they must be in. They've left their families, their homes, their loved ones so that they can fight for their DEEN and LAND. Every human being has a right to fight for that which is right. Palestine is a stolen land, but the palestinians are not wrong in defending their land and people and most of all their DEEN. so it's wrong to be pointing fingers, when these people have sacrificied their lives for the sake of Allah aza wajala. Every single day, they have to wake up to the sounds of gunshots, missiles and bombs. They have to face the reality that they're child, or mother, or even sister has been killed out of injustice...what then are they supposed to do?
for once can we think to ourselves and imagine,
What would it be like if we were in their shoes, if our homes got destroyed, if our land was stolen, if our wives were killed, our elderly were abused, if we had to bury our children beneath the sands due to the fact that they've been bombed and torn into pieces? what then would WE DO?jazakAllahu khayran .:tti_sister::salam2:
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
The crimes happened in Palastien and are happening are shame on weak muslems and humanity, It reveales how much injustice and cruelty our world is suffering .......How can homes and land of people be stolen and given to others while the whole world is seeing and blessing. I think Islam is the only solution for humanity since Islam makes people who fear their creator and never oppress others. Now most people act thinking their power or money give them the authority to steal and kill negelecting the fact that one day all will be asked by Allah swt for all that they have done on earth.

And We shall set up balances of justice on the Day of Resurrection, then none will be dealt with unjustly in anything. And if there be the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it. And Sufficient are We to take account. (47)

Quran Surat Al-Anbiya
 

Achmat_Samsodien

Junior Member
Asalaamualaikum

I don't denounce any muslim be they Taliban or Hamas. We don't know the full stories of whats going on in the world. Every media outlet is distorted, for one of us to claim that another is not following the right path is wrong because we do not know whats in each others hearts. As muslims we should side with the muslims and not join these green zone scholars, who sell their deen for a worldly price by aligning themselves by with the kuffar and condemning other muslims. It could just be that the muslim killing the innocent is following the wrong ijtihad and we should ask Allah to guide them. The minute we start claiming that this and that one is a Kaafir and side with a disbeliever then Allah will humiliate us and we can see that happening on a daily basis.

May Allah guide all the muslimeen to the straight path and may he grant us victory over our enemies Insha Allah

Wasalaamualaikum
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
Hamas has a lot of members that are upon the sunnah of Salafu Soleh . They do regard music as haram also. And for Salem to declare them as deviant requires him to repent to Allah subahanAllah Wa Ta'la. I ask Allah to forgive you and if you dont have any knowledge it is upon you to shut up

Before you Open your Mouth: Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee: Jihadi Extremists Have Taken Their Ideologies Of Takfir and Destruction From the Muslim Brotherhood

Shaykh Ahmad an-Najmee stated:

However, what is correct beyond any doubt is that these young people, those who declare Muslims as being disbelievers, they've taken this methodology, the methodology of Takfi (excommunication), as well as substantiation for their bombings from none other than the methodology of The Muslim Brotherhood, al-Ikhwan al-Muslimeen. They've adopted it as the essence (of their way), their patterns, their training, their cultivation and upbringing, and means of their incitement and motivation.
They deceptively incite and claim that committing such crimes (Takfir and bombings) are forms of Jihad supported and encouraged by the Quran! And they take that from the books of Sayyid Qutb (d. 1966), the man who made Takfeer of the entire nation of Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) as ismentioned in his Quranic explanation, Fi Dhilaal il-Qur'aan (In the Shade of the Quran) vol. 4, pg. 2122, when he says, There is not on the face of the earth today a Muslim country or even a Muslim community with social principles based on Allahs legislation or on Islamic understanding. He also said similar things in his explanation of Surah Yunus. He even claimed that Muslim mosques are really temples and places of idol worship. He encouraged political revolutions and overthrows in his explanation of Skrah al-Anfal,alleging that Islam allows and commands it. He says in his explanation of Skrah al-An'aam vol. 2, pg. 1057:


The times have always revolved, since the day this religion came to mankind, around "There's none worthy of worship but Allah." But humanity has become apostates back to the worship of the servants (themselves) and to the injustice of other religions. They've become renegades, leaving "There's none worthy of worship but Allah." even though a portion of them may still verbally repeat "There's none worthy of worship but Allah." without even realizing its meaning.
A group of bombers that appeared on Saudi television even confessed and stated theyve taken the idea of Takfeer from Sayyid Qutb's books, specifically from In the Shade of the Quran. In this is a refutation against those who say that what leads these people to do their crimes is unemployment or other things.

I've read in the book, Caravan of the Muslim Brotherhood by Abbaas as-Seesee - the first volume - lots of incidents showing that members of the Muslim Brotherhood were raised on a terrorist ideology since their beginning. Read, for example, vol. 1, pg. 258 about how Judge Ahmad Bak al-Khazindar was murdered by the Muslim Brotherhood. All these things are mentioned at the end of the first volume of Caravan of the Muslim Brotherhood by Abbaas as-Seesee, one of those who've adopted and profess this methodology. His book is a compilation of such incidents, a confession to them. All these things and more occurred during the life of Hassan al-Banna (founder of the Muslim Brotherhood) between 1947-1948. Is this not evidence enough that the Muslim Brotherhood is nothing more than a Takfirist sect, using methods of harshness, violence, and bombings? It's the same terrorism referred to in present times.

I wrote this to clarify that the people who say that takfir and bombings are the results of unemployment, or learned from Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab, or from the book, al-Durar al-Sinniyyah - all these allegations are false. Only the biased, sectarian factionalists of this same sect make such claims or those who sympathize with them. Hopefully with this clarification, their lie is made known as is the deception of those responsible for trying to cover up the actual cause leading to that (bombings and destruction). With Allah lies all success. May peace be on our prophet Muhammad, his family and companions.

- Ahmad Ibn Yahyá Ibn Muhammad Ibn Shabir al-Najmi
7/14/1425 Hijrah (C.E. 8/30/2004)

http://www.islamagainstextremism.co...heir-ideologies-of-takfir-and-destruction.cfm

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The Difference between me an you alkhatiri is that you take from your emotions and I just copy and paste you from what the scholars have said.

Can you tell me why the Head of Hamas Khaled Mishaal is Protected by the Allawites of Syria who believe Ali is Allah astughfur'Allah and is living in Damascus???

Can you also tell me why Hamas is Supported by Iran which is Shi3a and are killing Sunnies in Iraq and Lebanon???

Can you please tell me why Hizbullah is siding with Hamas?

ask yourself those questions then come and talk.
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
Pagan chief, al-Mut’im ibn-‘Adi, (A lesson)

Makkah had proved inhospitable to Islam and it occurred to the Prophet that he ought, perhaps to try to preach the new faith in some other city. The nearest city was Ta’if, 70 miles in the south-east of Makkah, and he went there in late 619. Zayd bin Haritha went with him.
In Ta’if, Muhammad :saw2:, the Messenger of Allah, called on the three chiefs of the local tribes, and invited them to abandon their gross idolatry, to acknowledge the Oneness of God, to repudiate man-made distinctions of high and low, and to believe in the equality and brotherhood of all men.

The chiefs of Ta’if were a conceited and arrogant crew, and they did not want even to listen to Muhammad :saw2:. They greeted him with mockery and ridicule and set upon him the idlers and the louts of the city. They pelted him and Zayd with clods and rocks. Wounded and covered with blood, Muhammad :saw2: staggered out of Ta’if. Once he was outside the city walls, he almost collapsed but a certain gardener took him into his hut, dressed his wounds, and let him rest and recuperate until he felt strong enough to resume his journey across the rough terrain between Ta’if and Makkah.

But when Muhammad :saw2: arrived in the environs of Makkah, he sensed that he could not reenter his native city now that his uncle, Abu Talib, was not there to protect him. Pagan hostility toward him had reached the flash point. He realized that if he entered Makkah, he would be killed

Muhammad :saw2: could not enter his hometown, and there was no other place to go to. What was he to do?

In this extremity, Muhammad :saw2: sent word to three nobles in the city asking each of them to take him under his protection. Two of them refused but the third one – the gallant Mutim ibn Adiy – responded to his signal of distress. It was the same Mutim who had, earlier, flouted the chiefs of Quraysh by tearing into pieces their covenant to boycott the Banu Hashim, and had brought the two clans of Banu Hashim and Banu al-Muttalib from the Sh’ib Abu Talib back into the city.

Mutim ordered his sons, nephews and other young men of his clan to put on their battle-dress. He then marched, in full panoply of war, at their head, out of the city. He brought Muhammad Mustafa with him, first into the precincts of the Kaaba where the latter made the customary seven circuits, and then escorted him to his home.



Abd-al-Rahman ‘Azzam

None of the Makkan chieftains from whom Muhammad requested protection for safe entry into the city would extend him help; but a good-hearted pagan chief, al-Mut’im ibn-‘Adi, took him under his protection and brought him home. Thus did Muhammad re-enter Makkah - guarded by a polytheist! (The Eternal Message of Muhammad, published by the New English Library, London, 1964)

Sir John Glubb

In Taif the Prophet :saw2:was stoned and chased. Afraid to return to Mecca now that he no longer enjoyed the protection of Abu Talib, he sent a message to several leading idolaters, asking their protection. Two refused but eventually Mutim ibn Adi, chief of the Nofal clan of Quraysh, agreed to protect him. Next morning, he, his sons and nephews went fully armed to the public square of the Kaaba, and announced that Mohammed :saw2: was under their protection. The protection of Mutim ibn Adi enabled the Apostle :saw2:to return to Mecca. (The Life and Times of Mohammed :saw2:, New York, 1970)
 

Mabsoot

Amir
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Assalamu alaykum,

There are a lot of fatawa , tapes and writing about the various movements out there. But, one thing that is clear, is that the only true success is not from any new faction or group, that creates its own missions and slogans, but that which is one purely based upon Qur'aan and Sunnah, which places Tawheed at its base.. and does not move even one inch from this base. Does not compromise, on this, whether it is from making alliances with disbelievers or with those who call themselves the helpers of Muslims, i.e the Iranians who have a history of allying with whoever they wish in order to further their own political goals.. or the Syrians, and so forth.

First of all Al-Qa'eeda is an ideology, it is not really a group as such, although, Allahu A'lam some people claim to be part of it. It promotes extremist khariji ideas of revolution. Those who study the works of the Ulema' of the past, and understand who the Khawarij were, and their reasoning will understand how AlQaeda is very wrong.. in its unjust shedding of blood and its causing of fitnah around the worlth. A lot of this is not rooted in anything, except modern extremist interpretations of the Qur'aan, which were not even made by Scholars, but by various thinkers and philosophers.

Hamas is the goverment of the Palestinians, it is legitimately the controller of the West Bank too, although right now it is only in control of Gaza. They are incharge of all the schooling and infrastructure in Gaza.

I think people, aught not to concentrate on the organsation as a whole. Some people, make the mistake of siding with an organisation, which has its own philosophies, a lot of which are against Islamic principles. Whether that is their legitimising democracy through to their allying with different groups and people, ignoring their mistakes in creed (even ignoring those who actually call to disbelief such as the raafidah), ignoring even the Muslims who suffer in places like Chechnya. ( as various Islamic Chechen groups were saddened with the allying with Russia that took place). There are many issues, which all point to the problems that are with the Ikhwan Muslimoon movement.

This is something that the Ulema' need to sit with them to discuss and deal with. It is also for Muslims to actually, put aside "political motivations", and actually want to benefit each other for sole purpose of pleasing Allaah Subhana wa ta'ala.. and for establishing His Deen. This is only done by us uniting upon the pure Qur'aan and Sunnah with understanding of the pious predecessors.

The Other important point is that, not everyone who actually is part of these groups actually knows the finer details of their ideas and policies. Allaah help them and aid our dear brothers and sisters. They are really good and sincere Muslims.

We give our support to them because they are Muslims! and because they are faced by our enemies, the Zionist Jews.

For all Muslims are our brothers in Islaam, as well as them having many good people, who, if they were given da'wah correctly, would listen. As of such, there are a few brothers who are working to help Palestinians to understand Islam in the best way, inshaAllaah.

It is also an obligation to give them support. Those who say something else, are living in another world, and are unaware of the Fatawa of the scholars and understanding that everything is based upon situation and maslaha of the Muslims. - If they are incharge of the Muslims, and they are the ones who are protecting them, then we are to do the correct action of giving them support, by whatever halal means..

I think, that it is important to know the truth about the groups, we also need take a balanced approach with how we talk about them and deal with them. Those who can talk about Palestine, Chechnya and so forth, also aught to be doing something positive for them. They should also be doing something to highlight the disbelief and evilness of their enemies. Remember, that we are an Ummah that is being attacked, left right and centre.

I think that the khutbah of Shaykh Hussain aal Shaykh, the Imam and Khateeb of Masjid al Nabawi, in Madinah, was a very good one.
Important Advice to the Muslim Ummah Concerning Palestine


Infact, that advice is going to aid us in every conflict and problem we have. So, we need to concentrate on helping ourselves be strong Muslims, so that we can help the future of this Ummah. So, we can give da'wah in best way to all those around, and be supporters of the true way of Islaam, inshaAllah ta'ala.

assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
 
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