Gernada1492
A Muslim
im bored and stressed !
Life is hard
Life is hard
Assalam Walaikum,
No I did not. I was thinking technology, increasing efficiency and the human mind.
It's true that the world has finite resources, it's true that the population is growing so their is less resources/energy per person, and it's true that exponential growth cannot go on forever in a finite world. But did not industrial civilization also give way to technology? Which made processes more efficient? As you said:
"the energy per capita that we consume in our lifetime is more than that consumed by the wealthiest kings and emperor in the days gone by. just look at the electric units consumed at your home. how many slaves would be required to provide that sort of power?"
I doubt we will go back to horse draw carriages.
"There have been many powerful, prosperous civilizations in history; all peaked, all declined and their remains can be found in museums today"
I think this is due more to wrong priorities, greediness and etc.
For most civilizations in history, food was the limiting agent.
For our industrial civilization, oil is the limiting agent.
For any civilization, net energy is the limiting agent.
Note: food = energy for the body
I think their is no limiting agent when it comes to the human mind and spirit. We know this, why not change it?
that's what im saying we have to go back to the future. we must learn how to grow our own food, ride horses, rear animals etc. fortunately we still have a few decades to make the transition. in any case those who dont make the transition will be left behind in the chaos. The physical limits still apply to our daily lives.
note: im not saying we are all doomed. all im saying is that unless we change we will be doomed. also these things wont happen over night. they will happen over a course of decades. but the signs are already there.
A change is indeed needed. But I really think we won't go back to rearing horses and etc. We will keep our technology. I think what has to change, or what is lacking rather, is how we look at waste. There shouldn't be any waste.
In nature everything is recycled. That includes energy. Decomposers.
Where does all our energy come from? The sun.
When will the sun die? A very long time.
Since when has the sun been supplying us energy? Since forever.
We have been using up the energy harnessed from the sun a long time ago -crude oil.
The energy and resource we need is all around us. It's just in a format we think we could not use. Waste is just inefficient design, and humans are getting smarter.
One of the failures of the economic system today is it's "one lined" Very little is recovered. We use resources, produce goods, people buy, when it becomes obsolete, it ends up in the landfill. In nature, that wouldn't happen, or rather, the time it takes for the "energy to go back" is shorter.
That's what I'm investing in. That's what I want to do.
Bottom line, resources are not limited. People's attitude is the main factor that needs to change.
that's what im saying we have to go back to the future. we must learn how to grow our own food, ride horses, rear animals etc. fortunately we still have a few decades to make the transition. in any case those who dont make the transition will be left behind in the chaos. The physical limits still apply to our daily lives.
note: im not saying we are all doomed. all im saying is that unless we change we will be doomed. also these things wont happen over night. they will happen over a course of decades. but the signs are already there.
A change is indeed needed. But I really think we won't go back to rearing horses and etc. We will keep our technology. I think what has to change, or what is lacking rather, is how we look at waste. There shouldn't be any waste.
In nature everything is recycled. That includes energy. Decomposers.
Where does all our energy come from? The sun.
When will the sun die? A very long time.
Since when has the sun been supplying us energy? Since forever.
We have been using up the energy harnessed from the sun a long time ago -crude oil.
The energy and resource we need is all around us. It's just in a format we think we could not use. Waste is just inefficient design, and humans are getting smarter.
One of the failures of the economic system today is it's "one lined" Very little is recovered. We use resources, produce goods, people buy, when it becomes obsolete, it ends up in the landfill. In nature, that wouldn't happen, or rather, the time it takes for the "energy to go back" is shorter.
That's what I'm investing in. That's what I want to do.
Bottom line, resources are not limited. People's attitude is the main factor that needs to change.
Assalaam walaikum,
This is too Orwellian for my tastes. I am having nightmares about the machine getting clogged and I am trapped between the rails with a bus full of conservative right wing Muslim hating Zionist licking middle aged menapausal women.
I always perfer the slow road to China. You can take in the sights and contemplate.
We'll see in the future