DAWAH TO BORN MUSLIMS

ya allah madad

0mm3afnan
:salam2:
every muslim is da'ee and it is obligatory on every muslims to know about dawah techniques.
my question mainly conscerns with dawah to the born muslims.
i live in a muslim country but the general conditions of muslims are deterioating.it make me really sad to see how muslims manipulate deen to get their own ends and say that the real Islam is what they propagate and follow.
i come across many muslim gals who have boy frns,dont pray their prayers and so on and so forth.
i do dawah to them but they get angry and say "we know more than you are and dont pose to be an aalimah"

i think i dont know the proper tactics of dawah so please help me out.
i have obsrved one thing while doing dawah to born muslims that

1: verses of quran conscerning hell fire ,jahanum and the day of jadgement shold be quoted while doing dawah to born muslims.

2: as they know the truth but dont follow it so we need more toil to do dawah to them

3: born muslim observe other less practicing muslims and they think that that is the real deen so we have to provide a clear vision of what Islam is

4: when they are told about a bidah they are doing ,they say we have seen our forefathers doing this and who are you to tell me what is right and wht is wrong.they say , (translation of the urdu proverb)"we didnt get our hair gray in the sunlight but experience"

5: we need a system .

i think i made my point clear:shymuslima1:
wasalm
 

iislam4ever

Servant of Allah 247
i agree with u i have the same problem with my family b/c subAllah i am the only one practicing in a right way alamdullila
 

docmohammad30

New Member
Re: Ya Allah madad

AOAWRWB

You are justified in your concerns and questions. The points which you have made are right but allow me to differ in my opinion.
if you start telling people that they are wrong and you are right, you would actually lose a chance of spreading the right message. Dont object on others. Let them practice what they are doing. Principles of Dawat are....praying a lot to Allah Subhanahu Watalla, that Allah pls help my brothers and sisters and myself to see the right path.
Try to get close to them, develop a relationship with them, its absolutely human to listen to some body you are close to rather than a passerby.
Treat them as you would treat yourself.
Have a slow pace in asking people what you want them to do.
Pray for the Iman for your self and others. Basic thing is Iman, if Iman is stable, actions would be right automatically.
Please remember me in dua aswell.
May Allah Subhanhu Watalla help us all.
Wasalam
Shahzad
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
:salam2:

I believe da'wah starts at home.

it is important that you do not have books or articles in the house which contains bid'ah stuff :SMILY286:
 

ya allah madad

0mm3afnan
brother, the entire system is a collection of bidah.

:salam2:

I believe da'wah starts at home.

it is important that you do not have books or articles in the house which contains bid'ah stuff :SMILY286:
how would u stop someone from mehndi function or the things people do over here in pakistan like dawry?
advise needed.


AOAWRWB

You are justified in your concerns and questions. The points which you have made are right but allow me to differ in my opinion.
if you start telling people that they are wrong and you are right, you would actually lose a chance of spreading the right message. Dont object on others. Let them practice what they are doing. Principles of Dawat are....praying a lot to Allah Subhanahu Watalla, that Allah pls help my brothers and sisters and myself to see the right path.
Try to get close to them, develop a relationship with them, its absolutely human to listen to some body you are close to rather than a passerby.
Treat them as you would treat yourself.
Have a slow pace in asking people what you want them to do.
Pray for the Iman for your self and others. Basic thing is Iman, if Iman is stable, actions would be right automatically.
Please remember me in dua aswell.
May Allah Subhanhu Watalla help us all.
Wasalam
Shahzad
 

riskyguy

Allah-hu-Akbar
:salam2:

4: when they are told about a bidah they are doing ,they say we have seen our forefathers doing this and who are you to tell me what is right and wht is wrong.they say , (translation of the urdu proverb)"we didnt get our hair gray in the sunlight but experience"

wasalm

And what is that bidah?

Not believing that Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and Martyrs are dead, Intercession, Kissing the Quran, doing tasbeeh?

What kind of bidah are you talking about? And do you consider the above mentioned acts bidah?
 

riskyguy

Allah-hu-Akbar
brother, the entire system is a collection of bidah.


how would u stop someone from mehndi function or the things people do over here in pakistan like dawry?
advise needed.

and what's wrong with mehndi function?
There's nothing wrong to celebrate at weddings. Mehndi has become part of a Pakistani custom. And any tradition which doesn't go against the Quran and Sunnah, is allowed.

We do not have to be an Arab or follow their traditions to become a good muslim.

And dowry, if the parents themselves want to give anything to their daughter there's nothing wrong in that, but if the bridegroom's family demand it, that's where the problem starts.

Nowadays alot of money is being spent on marriages, which is not correct. It would be better if people start getting married in the mosques.

Even then if people want to marry according to their traditions, as long it doesn't involve any act which go against the Quran and the Sunnah, there's nothing wrong, but they should also not forget the poor in their happy moments.

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:
'The worst of the feasts are those marriage feasts to which the rich are invited and the poor are left out"

and ALLAH KNOWS BEST...
 

riskyguy

Allah-hu-Akbar
I meant there's nothing wrong in mehndi function, because it doesn't go against the Quran and the Sunnah. And our religion doesn't stop us to follow our customs.

And what do you think isn't money spent on other days of weddings, you shouldn't have singled out mehndi, if money was the only reason in your mind. Because more money is spent on other days then on Mehndi.

You asked how to stop the mehndi function?
Why do you want the mehndi function to be stopped?
Just because so much money is spent on that day?

If that is the case you should not be thinking about stopping it, but guiding people to spend less and keep it as simple as they can.
And it shoudn't be the case just with mehndi, but all days of wedding.
 

warda A

Sister
good point

:salam2:

:ma:sister you brought up a very important issue, we are busy giving daawa to nonmuslims (am not saying we should stop but, charity begins at home)
forgeting our fellow muslims who are in need of the same thing.
in yemen where the majority of people are quite humble and follow the deen, but there are a number (actually majority of young people) who seem to think going to the mosque is a chore and now they seem to see western values as the inthing.
:wasalam:
 

ya allah madad

0mm3afnan
I meant there's nothing wrong in mehndi function, because it doesn't go against the Quran and the Sunnah. And our religion doesn't stop us to follow our customs.

And what do you think isn't money spent on other days of weddings, you shouldn't have singled out mehndi, if money was the only reason in your mind. Because more money is spent on other days then on Mehndi.

You asked how to stop the mehndi function?
Why do you want the mehndi function to be stopped?
Just because so much money is spent on that day?

If that is the case you should not be thinking about stopping it, but guiding people to spend less and keep it as simple as they can.
And it shoudn't be the case just with mehndi, but all days of wedding.

brother ,mehndi is the immitation of kuffar(hindu)
the bride wears yellow colour on this day just to immitate kuffar .its not even a cultural thing its a religious thing of hindus.

besides,i didnt start this thread to debate over what is sunnah or what is bedah but i wanted to know something about dawah so as to make myself a good muslimah and my fellow sisters and brothers as well.my intention is not single out any sect here or their rituals .
 

ya allah madad

0mm3afnan
:salam2:

:ma:sister you brought up a very important issue, we are busy giving daawa to nonmuslims (am not saying we should stop but, charity begins at home)
forgeting our fellow muslims who are in need of the same thing.
in yemen where the majority of people are quite humble and follow the deen, but there are a number (actually majority of young people) who seem to think going to the mosque is a chore and now they seem to see western values as the inthing.
:wasalam:
if it were a chore here subhanallah but its not.
when i see girls at my college wearing a small peice of sash it really make me sick and sad.
we will have to do dawah if it does not change others will change our heart inshallah
thanx for responses sis:hearts:
 

warda A

Sister
:salam2:
yes sister we should do what we can, it is encoraging to find such young people here helping one another in understanding our deen better.
we should have more young people who would do that instead of some peer groups that get into misconduct.
:salam2:
 

MOSABJA

Junior Member
brother ,mehndi is the immitation of kuffar(hindu)
the bride wears yellow colour on this day just to immitate kuffar .its not even a cultural thing its a religious thing of hindus.

besides,i didnt start this thread to debate over what is sunnah or what is bedah but i wanted to know something about dawah so as to make myself a good muslimah and my fellow sisters and brothers as well.my intention is not single out any sect here or their rituals .


I dont think that MEHNDI is imitation of kuffar.

Hazrat Umme Salma (R) narrates: “In the life of Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh), no injury or thorn piercing was treated on which Henna was not applied.” (Tirmizi, Sanad-e-Ahmed)

Applying mehndi is a good thing .As far as function is concerned as long it remains in the bounds of SHARIAH (I mean no dance,immodesty e.t.c) there is nothing wrong with it .CULTURE can be practiced as long as it does not go against the teaching of ISLAM.If a bride wears YELLOW or RED dress then dont call it a HINDU TRADITION it is an INDIAN TRADITION.There is nothing wrong with that.BIDAAH is some thing new in ISLAM.Any thing new associated with Islam is BIDAAH.But I see nothing wrong If a HUSBAND gives some MONEY to SIS IN LAWs as a TRADITION.

but as far as your topic is concerned U r right .Muslims need more DAWAAH than NON MUSLIMS.Actually professional DAWAH is not FARZ it is FARZ E KIFAYYAH. BUT AMR BIL MARUF WANAHI ANILMUNKAR(Stopping from bad deeds and urging good) is FARZ.SO if you see any MUSLIM not offering prayer or listening to music than it is your duty to at least say to him that HEY U R DOING WRONG.That's all our responsibility.If we dont do that then that person would say to ALLAH THAT THIS PERSON SAW ME DOING A BAD THING AND DIDNT STOP ME.SO YOU PUT SOME OF MY BAD DEEDS IN HIS BASKET.And then ALLAH would ask U WHY DIDNT YOU REMIND HIM.
 
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