In AIPAC speech, Obama repeats support for Israel, peace talks

[dna1987]

Link from Israeli newspaper below:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/832668.html

By Shmuel Rosner, Haaretz Correspondent

United States Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama reiterated his support for Israel on Friday, while at the same time calling on the U.S. to make a concerted effort to revive the peace process.

"Our job is to rebuild the road to real peace and lasting security throughout the region," Obama said during a speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee in Chicago. "Our job is to do more than lay out another road map."

"That effort begins with a clear and strong commitment to the security of Israel: Our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy," he added. "That will always be my starting point."

In what may have been a veiled reference to reports of American opposition to Israeli negotations with Syria, Obama said: "We should never seek to dictate what is best for the Israelis and their security interests. No Israeli prime minister should ever feel dragged to or blocked from the negotiating table by the United States."

The Illinois senator also called for continued American military assistance to Israel. "We must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs," he said.

Obama added that he was concerned about the Palestinian unity government accord.

Turning to Iran, the presidential hopeful called for direct engagement with the Islamic republic over its nuclear program.

"We need the United States to lead tough-minded diplomacy," he said. "This includes direct engagement with Iran similar to the meetings we conducted with the Soviets at the height of the Cold War."

"Tough-minded diplomacy would include real leverage through stronger sanctions," Obama continued. "It would mean more determined U.S diplomacy at the United Nations. It would mean a cooperative strategy with Gulf States who supply Iran with much of the energy resources it needs. It would mean full implementation of U.S. sanctions laws."

Obama blamed what he called the Administration's failed strategy in Iraq for strengthening the Iranian position, placing "Israel and other nations friendly to the United States in greater peril."

Related links:
Obama supports Israel. Period.

It might also be interesting to read the user comments down below in both articles.

Also the bold and underlined part above shows that he completely supports financially aiding Israel and giving them weapons. Basically, Obama will continue his support of Israeli pressure on Iran and Pakistan and all other Muslim countries in general, as well as of the following (and plenty of other examples in the video section):

Israeli Army shoots peaceful civilians in a March <- Clickable
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Be careful what you wish for. There are only a few good options in the USA. Just don't support the people that will hurt your brothers and sisters around the world. Salam alaikum.

 

[Faiza619]

Link from Israeli newspaper below:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/832668.html




It might also be interesting to read the user comments down below in both articles.

Also the bold and underlined part above shows that he completely supports financially aiding Israel and giving them weapons. Basically, Obama will continue his support of Israeli pressure on Iran and Pakistan and all other Muslim countries in general, as well as of the following (and plenty of other examples in the video section):


Be careful what you wish for. There are only a few good options in the USA. Just don't support the people that will hurt your brothers and sisters around the world. Salam alaikum.

:salam2:

Dear Sister, what is the world coming to?
dont these people have any sense of humanity in them?
dont they think of all the outcome we have witnessed during these past wars of Palestine that has no end (Subhana Allah) and Iraq and Afghanistan?
Do they want to continue drinking the blood of the innocent children?
I thought Obama was the level headed one?
what went wrong?
well i guess you can never trust an American
I hope they stay without a President like Lebanon. That would be better.

Ya Allah Save us from the claws of these devils. :tti_sister: Ameen

 

[dna1987]

^ Thanks for your comment brother! Salam alaikum.

 

[Faiza619]

LOL

^ Thanks for your comment brother! Salam alaikum.

:salam2:

You are welcomed but it is SISTER not BROTHER LOLZ

 

[dna1987]

:salam2:

You are welcomed but it is SISTER not BROTHER LOLZ

Salam alaikum,

Just as I am a brother, and not a sister!

PS: This thread went off topic pretty fast.

 

[warda A]

presidents

:salam2:

American presidents have had the same policy towards the middle east for ages, you think it will change now?
when politicians want votes they could literaly lick your boots to get them.
not suprising about obama supporting israel.we all want peace in the region,and that is something we should work towards.

 

[Faiza619]

Salam alaikum,

Just as I am a brother, and not a sister!

PS: This thread went off topic pretty fast.

:salam2:
It surely did Brother
I am sorry for the confusion
Forgive me

 

[dna1987]

^ Lol, take it easy - it's no big deal.

:salam2:

American presidents have had the same policy towards the middle east for ages, you think it will change now?
when politicians want votes they could literaly lick your boots to get them.
not suprising about obama supporting israel.we all want peace in the region,and that is something we should work towards.

Yeah, honestly I had no interest in these US elections AT ALL as I believed all the candidates to be two sides of the same coin - all with the same bad foreign policy for Muslims around the world. That's until I heard of Ron Paul. If he's not going to win; better to just stay clear of the rest of the idiots (minus Kucinich and Gravel). We should try take every opportunity - the 2008 elections with honest candidates is one. But also trying to convice the "Muslim" leaders in the Middle East and Pakistan to stop butt-kissng the Zionist leaders and help Muslims out and educate them (about Islam and reading etc) should be another thing we should work for. Salam alaikum.

 

[warda A]

Arab leaders

^ Lol, take it easy - it's no big deal.



Yeah, honestly I had no interest in these US elections AT ALL as I believed all the candidates to be two sides of the same coin - all with the same bad foreign policy for Muslims around the world. That's until I heard of Ron Paul. If he's not going to win; better to just stay clear of the rest of the idiots (minus Kucinich and Gravel). We should try take every opportunity - the 2008 elections with honest candidates is one. But also trying to convice the "Muslim" leaders in the Middle East and Pakistan to stop butt-kissng the Zionist leaders and help Muslims out and educate them (about Islam and reading etc) should be another thing we should work for. Salam alaikum.

:salam2:
Arab leaders make me sick!, they only think of themselves.
it is going to be an uphill task trying to convince them to do anything.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum brothers and sisters.

When discussing politics, let's remember to be moderate and objective. Past threads have had to been totally removed due to the fitnah created. We don't need to argue about politics, especially in light of the fact that many common layman Muslims like ourselves are already arguing about Fiqh related issues!

Jazaakumullaah khayr.

Take this as a light-hearted warning and not a recommendation.

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Politics is intergal to Islam. Once agian, I say we need to be active livers of life. Bad grammar but it works. Now, there is one candidate who has come out and told us he will cut aid. There seems to be little choice: Ron Paul.

 

[ya allah madad]

Salaam,

Politics is intergal to Islam. Once agian, I say we need to be active livers of life. Bad grammar but it works. Now, there is one candidate who has come out and told us he will cut aid. There seems to be little choice: Ron Paul.

yes apa g i agree .
islam is not a madhab its a deen encompasing every aspect of life and politics is among the most importants

 

[justoneofmillion]

:salam2:thanks for sharing keep it up
:salam2:
jameel

 

[Muslimah-S]

brother
Jazzakallahu Khairan
The video- It was only a peaceful demonstation, what was the need for the violent reaction??

A situation is cool as long as the people are cool.
It only gets hot when the people are heated.
Hope everyone continues to fight against oppression. Inshallah

 

[Inshallah]

well i guess you can never trust an American

That's a pretty broad statement.... to vilify an entire nation.

What about the American muslims, like me, can they be trusted?

What about the large part of the population that DID NOT VOTE FOR, and DOES NOT AGREE WITH the policies of Bush?

Should we just throw everyone into the same category & hate them all? I thought I read in the Quran something about peace, tolerance, or something similiar. Sound familiar?

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Yes politics is integral to Islaam, but not democratic western politics!!! Look at Pakistan and Kashmir, anyone who has been there during election time will know how extremely they are engrossed into politics, to the extent they pull out guns to their own bretheren!!!

I think we need to turn back to an earlier post on this website which contains the duroos of Shaykh Khalid al-`Anbaree and his discussion on politics in Islaam. Maa shaa Allaah, the Shaykh is very well versed in Islamic politics.

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5346

Shaykh Muhammad Amaan Al-Jaamee rahimahullaah spoke the truth when he said, "Politics today consists of deception, lying, flattery, and hypocrisy in most cases. However, Islamic politics is contrary to this." see this thread for further info.

People please do not generalise and make any prejudice statements. Be more specific and think about the effects of your speech (post) to prevent unnecessary argumentation!

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Bush and his cronies stole the election. But, he is history. The regime of terror is almost over. Now, it is time to re-do the damage that was done. One thing about evil is that it does not last forever.
So we move on. We can only change the system by participating in the change. So let us do it. I encourage every American Muslim to get involved. Register, vote, and encourage others to vote. We can make a change, by chipping away.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

People, remember that voting has no place in Islaam. Those scholars/shaykhs (not milkshaykhs!) who say it is allowed, limit it to extreme situations where the Muslims are clearly benefitting by voting or not voting for a certain candidate.

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

Brother, I understand your sentiments. Yet, when we are able to assist humanity for the better, to stop unnecessary wars, to feed the poor, to help the poor, and to feed a child...we need to participate. Thanks to a sister on the forum I contacted CAIR and asked them to help us unify.
At least by voting we can start in the right direction. In the States we are in need of leadership. If we can get Muslims into Congress some of this insanity may stop. I do not wish to have Muslim blood on my hands. I will try to do something about it...however insignificant it may be. On the Day that I am asked what did I do..at least I have tried..

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Ok, well remember also that ruling by other than what Allaah willed is kufr, and can remove one from the fold of islaam (not that we are the ones to make that takfeer). We as Muslims, as slaves of Allaah shouldn't be pleased except with the shari`ah. The one who considers implementing shari`ah as not befitting, not applicable or simply not better than man made laws, by consensus of the Muslim scholars has left the fold of Islaam. However the one who does so, believing that the Shari`ah is better, but simply fails to implement it falls into lesser kufr.

And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, then they are the disbelievers. [5:44]​

Ibn Abbaas said: "It is not the kufr that takes one out of the religion. Rather when he does it then it is [an act of] disbelief, and he is not like the one who disbelieves in Allaah and the Last Day" and Taawoos said the same and Ataa said: "It is disbelief less than disbelief, oppression less than oppression and rebellion less than rebellion"...
from Madaarij us-Saalikeen of Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah

Anyway the point in me mentioning that is so that we don't become engulfed in voting, and try to leave it off except in EXTREME circumstances where necessary.

Jazaakumullaahu khayran.