Married 56 times

[moonnah]

How can this be "ok" and especially in the "Holy Place" such as S.E.
I dont recall the Quran making a mockery of marriage. This man is NOT a good man so how can his fellow Muslims allow it?
If it was a women it would not be tolerated as such.
Why the double stander ed?

I have learned that Islam is a way of life not just a religion; so if thats true why is this way of life allowed ? Why is he not in trouble or something?






Man Marries 58 Times in 50 Years
Majed Al-Kanani, Arab News/Asharq Al-Awsat



Saleh Al-Saieri

JEDDAH, 19 March 2004 — In 50 years, Saleh Al-Saieri, a Saudi businessman has married 58 women, including eight Yemenis, and then divorced 54 of them. Every time the wives hear that Al-Saieri has found a new prospect, they begin wondering who is next to go.

Al-Saieri’s extended family includes 36 children from 15 wives and he has married into 30 tribes across Saudi Arabia.

As soon as Al-Saieri gets the itch to marry again, he draws lots between the current four wives to choose which one will be divorced. Under Islamic Shariah, he is not allowed to marry more than four wives at a time. Al-Saieri said, “I first got married to my cousin when I was 14 years old because of my father. The ceremony took place in Sharura, southern Saudi Arabia. A few months later, I divorced her even though she gave birth to my first son, Omar. He is now 50 years old and works as an engineer and a businessman.”

“Six months later, I married my second wife. I loved her because I had known her when we were young. I started my marriage campaign immediately after the second marriage,” he added.

He said, “My wives only meet each other occasionally. Each lives far away from the other. Some of my sons only found out that they were brothers through similarity of names at school.”

“I married university graduates and illiterate women. The oldest wife I am married to is 40 and the youngest is 13, who I married just one month ago. She lives in southern Saudi Arabia,” he boasted.

“I will stop when I reach wife number 60,” he concluded.

An office manager handles all the requirements of the ex-wives and children. Until now, Al-Saieri has forked out SR6 million in payments and wedding expenses.


http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=41504&d=19&m=3&y=2004

 

[island muslim]

How can this be "ok" and especially in the "Holy Place" such as S.E.
I dont recall the Quran making a mockery of marriage. This man is NOT a good man so how can his fellow Muslims allow it?
If it was a women it would not be tolerated as such.
Why the double stander ed?

I have learned that Islam is a way of life not just a religion; so if thats true why is this way of life allowed ? Why is he not in trouble or something?






Man Marries 58 Times in 50 Years
Majed Al-Kanani, Arab News/Asharq Al-Awsat



Saleh Al-Saieri

JEDDAH, 19 March 2004 — In 50 years, Saleh Al-Saieri, a Saudi businessman has married 58 women, including eight Yemenis, and then divorced 54 of them. Every time the wives hear that Al-Saieri has found a new prospect, they begin wondering who is next to go.

Al-Saieri’s extended family includes 36 children from 15 wives and he has married into 30 tribes across Saudi Arabia.

As soon as Al-Saieri gets the itch to marry again, he draws lots between the current four wives to choose which one will be divorced. Under Islamic Shariah, he is not allowed to marry more than four wives at a time. Al-Saieri said, “I first got married to my cousin when I was 14 years old because of my father. The ceremony took place in Sharura, southern Saudi Arabia. A few months later, I divorced her even though she gave birth to my first son, Omar. He is now 50 years old and works as an engineer and a businessman.”

“Six months later, I married my second wife. I loved her because I had known her when we were young. I started my marriage campaign immediately after the second marriage,” he added.

He said, “My wives only meet each other occasionally. Each lives far away from the other. Some of my sons only found out that they were brothers through similarity of names at school.”

“I married university graduates and illiterate women. The oldest wife I am married to is 40 and the youngest is 13, who I married just one month ago. She lives in southern Saudi Arabia,” he boasted.

“I will stop when I reach wife number 60,” he concluded.

An office manager handles all the requirements of the ex-wives and children. Until now, Al-Saieri has forked out SR6 million in payments and wedding expenses.


http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=41504&d=19&m=3&y=2004

hello,

are you christian??

thank you.

 

[moonnah]

hello,

are you christian??

thank you.

See my profile.

Irrelevant.

Thank you.

 

[Zafran]

Your judging islam on one article lol

I will advice you to read the Quran objectively.

If you want to judge a religion judge it on its proof not on the people that follow it because humans are not perfect.

 

[samiha]

How can this be "ok" and especially in the "Holy Place" such as S.E.
I dont recall the Quran making a mockery of marriage. This man is NOT a good man so how can his fellow Muslims allow it?
If it was a women it would not be tolerated as such.
Why the double stander ed?

I have learned that Islam is a way of life not just a religion; so if thats true why is this way of life allowed ? Why is he not in trouble or something?

Again what one fails to do is make a differenciation between Islaam and "Muslims". Frankly it's not "ok" what he did and is doing, and also to mention, Saudi Arabia itself is not "holy". The two cities of Makkah and Madinah are blessed, and the country itself has the greatest semblence to Shari'ah, however we cannot claim that for that reason it's a "holy place" and everyone in it will also be righteous.

The Qur'aan does not make a mockery of marriage, neither does Islaam. The man's action is definitely one that is wrong, but subhan'Allah, such a question you ask is quite one that is left to Allah (God).

I mean, how are we to know what he thinks? And thus still how are we to judge based others reactions based on that? Say the children didnt even know what he was doing, so perhaps his wives and relatives dont. I mean a world in which a man can lock up his own daughter for 24 years and get away with it, anything could be possible. But I dont see religion being placed as a forefront when other people do such crimes.

I think the person themselves is to blame and not anyone else. And this is regardless of it being a man/woman.

Thus there are no double standards as I see it, as Islam does not encourage such acts at all.

_______________________________

I think to understand Islaam better, one should not get distracted by the actions of people, but look into the beliefs of Tawheed etc.

 

[Salem9022]

moonah, If i were to go into a car accident, it doesn't mean I went into a car accident because Islam told me to go into a car accident. You are Judging Islam on the actions of certain individuals out of more then a Billion Muslims. if you want to learn about Islam or even the actions of what Muslims did then you should study the live of the Prophet and his Companions

 

[samiha]

:salam2:

Look everyone just calm down for a second. I cannot seem to fathom why this is becoming such a big deal.

There are certain misconceptions in the original post, and if one would like to go correct them, I hope they can in the proper manner. But since this is a question asked openly, we are not here to critisize the poster, nor the question. Always remember, as a Muslim we must set the best example, and not give replies off the top of our head in annoyance or anger.

Every word you say is accounted

Also to moonah, please dont be offended, but the question asked as to why no friend of his says anything is a bit hard to answer. I mean realistically, say a man was a muderer, and his best friend never said anything would you automatically accuse him of not preventing the murder?

I mean take into account, perhaps he didnt know, perhaps he thinks murder is fine, perhaps he too is a murderer, perhaps he dislikes this person and doesnt care.

Take all that into account, does that justify murder? Can we answer with a definite perhaps?

And thus can we also judge whatever religion this man followed and its adherants?

I think the answers are self-evident, and if so, then take this and alter it into this situation.

wasalam

 

[OsMaN_93]

you can read the Qur'an here (FREE)

www.quranexplorer.com

peace.

 

[sha587]

Sisters already explained some of answers. You should not judge religion by a single person.
If you search the divorce rate in non Muslim countries and compare them with Muslim countries you will definitely see the difference.

Islam does not support. And as you asked this should be stopped by the government than this is not possible until they have made such explicit rule but i think in Islamic point of view someone gave him advice but to take this case to the court this does not seem logical because this is his individual freedom.

You should understand the faith and shareeah part of Islam.

Like if someone do not want to live with his parents than shareeh can not force him but scholars can give him advice according to Quran and sunnah. Even then they can not force him why because this is his individual freedom. Islamic shareeah is justice system just like any other system in the world which is based on justice. If you see in some countries there are courts and their are social comities. If there is case of divorce normally social comities try to solve this case so that that this case solve easily and the couple do not suffer from the pain and other social elements. But if they insist to take their case to court than these comities can not force the couple to live with each other.

This person can not be force by court to not to marry because he is fulfilling his legal duties. But he can be advised by scholars and social comities or stuff like this. This is rare case it is not happening everywhere in Muslim countries, so you should not pick up the exceptional case. Here is another fact in Christianity fornication is not allowed but we can see how many people in Christian society do fornication.

So do you think it is right to justify that one's belief is the belief of 1 billion people.

People may be not sincere with their religion so i am as a human being just asking you to read Quran and understand its message. If you will keep looking for this kind of example than you will never ever can understand Islam. And its not about Islam only its the matter with all religion if you want to study engineering you first need to study theory than you will be able you do some practical.

My humble request is to understand Islam fist study Quran and than if you found anything which in your opinion is not correct for society or illogical than these people are always here to help as you can see you are not the only one who is searching for truth there are many people in this forum and other forums.

Hope you got my point.

 

[cmelbouzaidi]

Dear Moonah,
I hope you are sincere in your questions about Islam and are not just trying to find fault with certain muslims actions

Before the religion of Islam came into Arabia, men had sometimes hundreds of wives at the same time. The religion did not forbid having more than one wife at the same time but put a cap on it of four. However, if you cannot treat them all equally it states in the Qur'an that then you should just marry one and Allah knows best.

This is an indication that for those who marry more than one wife for the wrong reason, Allah knows best what is in their hearts and they will face judgement like everyone else. I believe it is not a common practice these days in most Muslim countries for people of our generation to have more than one wife. However, I hope that you understand that from being footloose and fancy free and having many many wives, which is still practised in parts of Africa today, is out of the question. For those who accepted Islam but could not stick to having one wife at a time only, they have the option of taking on up to three more wives but this is the exception and not the norm.

For the record, marriages between Muslims have a much better chance of working out than most marriages in the USA, for example, and it is a real partnership. Even in his last sermon, our Prophet Mohammed stated that wives were their husband's partners in this life and they should be treated properly. Did you know that if a Muslim woman wants to work, whatever money she earns she can keep entirely for herself and blow her whole paycheck on things for herself as the husband is the provider and has no right to tell her what to do with her money. Also, it is the husband who gives the woman a dowry of money or gold when they get married and this is hers and she is free to do with that money whatever she wishes.

I hope this might help clear up any misconceptions you might have and as previously stated:

Please do not blame Islam, the seal of the Abrahamic religions, the word of God(Allah) still preserved unchanged 1400 years later unlike any other scripture, do not blame the beautiful religion of Islam for the actions of some ignorant people who call themselves Muslims. There are ignorant people in every religion.... just look at the Born Again Christians and their judgemental ways in the USA.....

Take care,

Catherine Iman... I found Islam 17 years ago and have never looked back. It is the best thing that ever happened to me, Alhamdulillah, Praise be to the One and Only God

 

[Bawar]

Hello dear moonnah!

What this man did indeed seems a mockery.

Majority of muslims certainly won't agree with what he did, but they won't be able to take the law in their hands and stop him.

He is abusing the law of the country where 4 wives are allowed, but there are conditions and rights to be observed.
The sad fact is that there exist loopholes in the law and order of every country and there are people who abuse them.

If the Quranic law has not been implemented correctly or has been abused is a human error and should be corrected.

I certainly do not justify such actions, but just for the sake of arguement, we are not living in a perfect world unfortunately.

In the west, we see that men and women sleep around with not just 56, but 100s of people who they don't even remember.

As for personal salvation, I would recommend that you focus on your own self and seek how to get closer to God and worship him alone as he deserves to be worshiped.

This will be better for you, God willing.

Take care
Peace

 

[sha587]

He is abusing the law of the country where 4 wives are allowed, but there are conditions and rights to be observed.
The sad fact is that there exist loopholes in the law and order of every country and there are people who abuse them.

Brother i think may be he did not marry more than 4 wives at a time so this is not loopholes in law but may be this loophole in the person brain.

 

[Amir_of_spain]

I get amazed when i see sistas/bros take these articles or men from these articles as if they were the standard role models of islam. The best example is the prophets generation and so forth, so why complain and moan over modern day silly examples. Its just the same old boring moan.

 

[moonnah]

Thank you!

Hello dear moonnah!

What this man did indeed seems a mockery.

Majority of muslims certainly won't agree with what he did, but they won't be able to take the law in their hands and stop him.

He is abusing the law of the country where 4 wives are allowed, but there are conditions and rights to be observed.
The sad fact is that there exist loopholes in the law and order of every country and there are people who abuse them.

If the Quranic law has not been implemented correctly or has been abused is a human error and should be corrected.

I certainly do not justify such actions, but just for the sake of arguement, we are not living in a perfect world unfortunately.

In the west, we see that men and women sleep around with not just 56, but 100s of people who they don't even remember.

As for personal salvation, I would recommend that you focus on your own self and seek how to get closer to God and worship him alone as he deserves to be worshiped.

This will be better for you, God willing.

Take care
Peace

 

[palestine]

so your faith is undecided. well you asked how this can be done in the name of islam. please do not blame nor be shocked. this isn't from the teachings of islam. this man obiviously chose to do what he did out of his own choice, he was never ordered to do so nor was he given the rights to do so by God. so you see he did this from his own hands. he is to blame NOT ISLAM. if you want to know the limits of marriage in islam it's only upto 4 wives, and you cannot just marry but you must take responsibility and be able to take care of all 4. and Allah gave choice to them to either marry 1 2 3 or 4, they are not forced to do so nor are they told that they must. it is not obligatory and it is only an option. however marrying upto 4 wives means that you must be able to take the responsibility of giving rights to each and every wife. also it this was allowed because there were many women who's husbands died in war and they needed assistance, and their children needed someone to take care of them so then allah permitted marriage to 4 wives- in order that these women won't suffer from taking care of an entire family on their own. so always know that not everything that a muslim does is actually part of islam. peace and may you find true guidance inshallah (Allah willing)

 

[tabaria]

:salam2:

I wonder why women keep marrying him. And the article said the children didn't know each other. I find that hard to believe. Don't believe everything you read.

It seemed rather funny actually just because it doesn't seem very true.

Either way check out how many wives king solomon (pbuh) had. Out Judaism, Christianity and Islam, only the last limits the number of wives a man can marry.

 

[abdellah007]

Assalam alaykum

There is something wrong with some people judging islam by muslim actions,
everytime a muslim he is bad or good does something wrong we stuck it to Islam. I shouldnt judge islam by this man or someone killing 100 people in a suicide bomb, or a muslim somewhere stealing 100.000 dollars or .....



never judge a book by its cover and never judge islam by its people.


wassalam

 

[podolski11]

wellll i would jz say one thing NEVER JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER AND A RELIGION BY ITS PEOPLE.......cause then all whites and will b considered as pedos and blacks considered as blood loving gangsters but that isnt true there r good ones and bad ones too so we shouyldnt point at one man who is BAD and show him that he represents the whole of Islam....

 

[q8penpals]

If you search the divorce rate in non Muslim countries and compare them with Muslim countries you will definitely see the difference.

Salam

Here is an interesting list of SOME countries and their divorce rates (the first section is the percentage of NEW marriages ending in divorce; the section chart is the number of divorces per year per 1000 population). Obviously, since not all countries are reported, it cannot be used as a difinitive support of where Muslim-majority countries fit with regards to divorce.

http://www.divorcemag.com/statistics/statsWorld.shtml

By the way - the US isn't first on either list!

Lana

 

[AAminAA]

Salam

By the way - the US isn't first on either list!

Lana

Wa alaykumu salam ,

It's understandable why is US not first on any list , but still it's high, almost like first if we concider cuples who live together , never married.... or in other words known as cohabitors.

http://www.unmarried.org/statistics.html


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