al-shabab

Zaynab123

Subhana Allah!
Asalamu alaykum

if you are somali and you support al-shabab then i need an exterim explanation.

so i watched this video, Al-shabab have slaughter a man beacause he said he was out of the religion, ISLAM. i am so pist off right at this moment ok so please tell me if this is really true? i mean are they al-shabab or are they hypocrites? have any of you seen it or heard it? if you want to watch the video which i recomend you do not watch it here is the link. *removed*
 

zahrany

MAY~u~B~HPPI~!4EVER!
:wasalam:
subhanAllah, if he is out of the religion
i think that is between him and Allah
'n' last tim alshabab we're digging graves
wowww
 

xSharingan01x

TraVeLer
Asalamu alaykum

if you are somali and you support al-shabab then i need an exterim explanation.

so i watched this video, Al-shabab have slaughter a man beacause he said he was out of the religion, ISLAM. i am so pist off right at this moment ok so please tell me if this is really true? i mean are they al-shabab or are they hypocrites? have any of you seen it or heard it? if you want to watch the video which i recomend you do not watch it here is the link. www.calanka.com

:salam2:

I'm not Somali, however I try to keep up with current events concerning Al Shabab. Sister, before I say anything keep in mind that you verify the information concerning Muslims especially when Media and even some Muslims spread lies and propaganda about the Mujaheedin. Any mistake they make are blown out of proportion while they hardly ever talk about the mistakes and atrocities of the enemies of the Mujaheedin.

That being said, Al Shabab is probably the only group within Somlias many Islamic group who is not willing to compromise the principles of Islam and Sharia, and thus they are called "the most extremists". lol

You have to take into consideration that in Somalia there are different Islamic groups and Al Shabab being one of them, there are also many hypocrites in the ranks of different Islamic groups who are spies and such for the enemies (Ethiopian and foreign forces). So it would only be natural that if certain hypocrite is caught Al Shabab can execute that hypocrite for treason.

Sister Zahrany that is true, but keep in mind the different factors and complexities of Somlia.

Al Shabab destroyed some shrines and the top part of the graves (thus leveling it to the ground) because these sites were a source of fitnah for people who go there and commit shirk and other foolish acts.
Keep in mind that Umar (may Allah be pelased with him) cut down the tree under which the Prophet :saw: received the oath of Allegiance near Mecca, because after the Prophet :saw: passed away people began to visit that place and thus it was becoming a source of fitnah.
Also there are hadeeth on this issue I suggest you look into it :).


Al Shabab are doing many great things in the region which they controlled some of them being fighting shirk and bidah ;).

I'm not aware about the particular incident, Insha'Allah I will look into it.
They have a website but the problem is I don't understand Somali.


:wasalam:
 

AlQurtubi

Banned
Sister Zaynab.. Theyalso say that people dont like HAMAS. Do you beleive it? What if i post any fake video about them and write the title accordingly. Would you start beleiving it?

Al-shababd, hamas, taliban and other mujahideen are a symbol of terror for them. That is why they keep doing propaganda against them. Its almost impossible to find truth over internet, about THEM specially.
 

Rashadi

Junior Member
Don't believe everything you hear about Mujahideen especially from those who hate Islam and sharia. How can any Muslim refuse to obey the laws of Allah(sharia) and how the sharia be evil or oppressive when it is from Allah(swt). The media and there are people who have dirty agendas, and they fear sharia because it will bring justice, success and prosperity. There are people who don't want this because they are mushriks and they want to intimidate Muslims and portray sharia system as evil. Islam and the sharia isn't evil, and it is the perfect system from Allah. If there are any Muslims oppressing and doing evil, it is because they are not doing Islam and not living according to sharia correctly. Only Islam can solve the problems of Muslims and the Islamic world is either secular, nationalistic, not doing sharia at all or doing it the wrong way.

I am not from Somalia but all Muslims are my concern and I like to know how my brothers and sisters are doing and I make duah for all of them. I don't believe everything I hear and especially not from the media because they are liars and full of propaganda. So Allah knows best and may He protect, strengthen and make our ummah successful in this world and the akhira, amin.
 

Idris16

Junior Member
Asalamu alaykum

if you are somali and you support al-shabab then i need an exterim explanation.

so i watched this video, Al-shabab have slaughter a man beacause he said he was out of the religion, ISLAM. i am so pist off right at this moment ok so please tell me if this is really true? i mean are they al-shabab or are they hypocrites? have any of you seen it or heard it? if you want to watch the video which i recomend you do not watch it here is the link. www.calanka.com
:wasalam:
Yes its true,. i thought you meant another apostate but now i remember.
They killed him in Baidoa because he changed his religion I remember when it was available in YT for only some hours and i watched it a little and i saw when they beheaded him but i thought he worked for TFG because i didnt listen when they were talking. I'm not sure if it was Al Shabaab they didnt admit it publically though.

I want to say Al Shabaab is the best thing that have happened Somalia, I remember when they killed my dad's friend because he worked for a warlord. Of course I was sad for what happened to my dad's friend but I asked myself 'Why work for a warlord?' I try not to think about his fate.
Al Shabaab are from different clans like Hawiye Darod Rahanwayn and the alshabab leader is from somaliland(hargeisa).

I read a thread here that we cant kill someone who changes his religion unless he tries to make other muslims into non-muslims or mocks the religion of Allah.
And BTW don't visit sites like calanka and waagacusub as they are tribalists who hates mujahideen and rejoices when they see images of killed mujahideen especially Waagacusub they hate every mujahid on earth and they come up with lies every day.
Wa salam alaykum
 

Idris16

Junior Member
:wasalam:
'n' last tim alshabab we're digging graves
wowww
I know that was a great thing wasnt it?? Its good because today muslims are ignorant of shirk they think shirk is nothing when its the most evil sin and Allaah hates shirk, so of course we should destroy graves, we can see in central regions in somalia how ahlu sunna wal jame'ah resisist alshabab because alshabab destroyed graves, what a stupidity of Ahlu sunna when the kuffar comes to somalia and rapes muslims, bombs mosques, kill civilians and muslims they are not doing a thing when ethiopia are somalias sworn enemies,. ahlu sunna isnt doing a thing but when graves gets destroyed their blood boils so much that they would even kill thousands of shabab fighters. May Allah guide them Ameeen

May Allaah bless Al Shabaab Ameeeen they have released several videos and it would be good if u watched some:)
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
Al-Shabaab even executed one of their own men because he killed someone unjustly.

That's justice.

:salam2:
 

Idris16

Junior Member
Al-Shabaab even executed one of their own men because he killed someone unjustly.

That's justice.

:salam2:
Yes mash'Allah they executed one of their own man because he killed a civilian intentionally, then when they executed him Allaah blessed the town with rain and it didnt rain for months but it rained because they executed the fighter and thats justice
 

um_mustafa

sister in Islam
:wasalam:
subhanAllah, if he is out of the religion
i think that is between him and Allah

'n' last tim alshabab we're digging graves
wowww

Salams, Please read the following on apostacy from Q & A Islam :


Why should a person who disbelieves after becoming Muslim be executed?
The punishment for the apostate is execution. Why such harshness?.

Praise be to Allaah.

The punishment for apostasy from the religion of Islam is execution. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whosoever of you turns back from his religion and dies as a disbeliever, then his deeds will be lost in this life and in the Hereafter, and they will be the dwellers of the Fire. They will abide therein forever”

[al-Baqarah 2:217]

And it was proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, execute him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari in his Saheeh. What this hadeeth means is that whoever leaves Islam and changes to another religion and persists in that and does not repent, is to be executed. It was also proven that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a person who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life, a previously-married person who commits adultery, and one who leaves Islam and forsakes the jamaa’ah.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim.

This harsh punishment is for a number of reasons:

1 – This punishment is a deterrent to anyone who wants to enter Islam just to follow the crowd or for hypocritical purposes. This will motivate him to examine the matter thoroughly and not to proceed unless he understands the consequences of that in this world and in the Hereafter. The one who announces his Islam has agreed to adhere to all the rulings of Islam of his own free will and consent, one of which rulings is that he is to be executed if he apostatizes from the faith.

2 – The one who announces his Islam has joined the jamaa’ah (main body) of the Muslims, and whoever joins the main body of the Muslims is required to be completely loyal and to support it and protect it against anything that may lead to fitnah or destroy it or cause division. Apostasy from Islam means forsaking the jamaa’ah and its divine order, and has a harmful effect on it. Execution is the greatest deterrent that will prevent people from committing such a crime.

3 – Those Muslims who are weak in faith and others who are against Islam may think that the apostate has only left Islam because of what he has found out about its real nature, because if it were the truth then he would never have turned away from it. So they learn from him all the doubts, lies and fabrications which are aimed at extinguishing the light of Islam and putting people off from it. In this case executing the apostate is obligatory, in order to protect the true religion from the defamation of the liars and to protect the faith of its adherents and remove obstacles from the path of those who are entering the faith.

4 – We also say that the death penalty exists in the modern laws of man to protect the system from disorder in some situation and to protect society against certain crimes which may cause its disintegration, such as drugs etc. If execution can serve as a deterrent to protect man-made systems, then it is more appropriate that the true religion of Allaah, which Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it [cf. Fussilat 41:42], and which is all goodness, happiness and tranquility in this world and in the Hereafter should punish those who commit acts of aggression against it and seek to extinguish its light and defame its image, and who fabricate lies against it to justify their apostasy and deviation.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 21/234-231.


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Idris16

Junior Member
Asalamu alaykum
i mean are they al-shabab or are they hypocrites?

Look at the peace they gave lower jubba and lower shabelle from two warlords that comes from two powerful clans.And also you can see Aljazeera interviewing Spokesman of alshabab Abu Mansur may Allah protect him ameeen
Al Shabaab are salafis according to the spokesman:D
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Zaynab123

Subhana Allah!
:wasalam:
subhanAllah, if he is out of the religion
i think that is between him and Allah
'n' last tim alshabab we're digging graves
wowww

May Allaah bless Al Shabaab Ameeeen they have released several videos and it would be good if u watched some:)

Al-Shabaab even executed one of their own men because he killed someone unjustly.

That's justice.

:salam2:

i never heard that, i guess i'm in a deep sleep LOL :SMILY153:

Salams, Please read the following on apostacy from Q & A Islam :



:salam2:

That being said, Al Shabab is probably the only group within Somlias many Islamic group who is not willing to compromise the principles of Islam and Sharia, and thus they are called "the most extremists". lol

:wasalam:

Sister Zaynab.. Theyalso say that people dont like HAMAS. Do you beleive it? What if i post any fake video about them and write the title accordingly. Would you start beleiving it?

Al-shababd, hamas, taliban and other mujahideen are a symbol of terror for them. That is why they keep doing propaganda against them. Its almost impossible to find truth over internet, about THEM specially.

I am not from Somalia but all Muslims are my concern and I like to know how my brothers and sisters are doing and I make duah for all of them. I don't believe everything I hear and especially not from the media because they are liars and full of propaganda. So Allah knows best and may He protect, strengthen and make our ummah successful in this world and the akhira, amin.


Asalamu alaykum

i apprecaite the help from all of you, i don't know how to thank you and ALhamdulilah i feel alot better. i don't know why i beleived that anyway at the first place.:shymuslima1: i have bieng crazy for awhile LOL. jazak Allahu khayra all of you...:)

:hearts:

wasalam
 

Idris16

Junior Member
i never heard that, i guess i'm in a deep sleep LOL :SMILY153:
Asalamu alaykum

i apprecaite the help from all of you, i don't know how to thank you and ALhamdulilah i feel alot better. i don't know why i beleived that anyway at the first place.:shymuslima1: i have bieng crazy for awhile LOL. jazak Allahu khayra all of you...:)

:hearts:

wasalam
If it was in Baidoa it may have been them but if its in the capital i dont think it was them,
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
Sister Zaynab, Al shabab as i know them are honest and upright Mujahideen. People have lied against them numerous times and they've sworn that they would not committ injustice and would follow only the quran and sunnah. Anyone can put up a video and make accusations. And these brothers have asked the Muslims to not believe everything they hear or see on the internet. for example, do you remember a time where it was in the internet that they said al shabab had stoned a *14 yr old girl*, well it turned out to be a woman over the age of 22 and she had 3 children and a husband and she committed zina while married to a man. she was not 14 nor was she zina free, and they followed the shariah and stoned her. Ukhti these brothers are OUR BROTHERS and the enemy of the believers are always and forever willing to lie against them. but we can't listen to every lie we hear. I assure you that they did no such thing. So please ukhti calm down. Asalamu alaykum wrwb.
 

Zaynab123

Subhana Allah!
If it was in Baidoa it may have been them but if its in the capital i dont think it was them,


Asalamu alaykum

i doubt that that was them because if it was them they wouldn't have not showned him the knife besides they don't use knives. they are hypocrites out their.:astag:

wasalam
 

Zaynab123

Subhana Allah!
do you remember a time where it was in the internet that they said al shabab had stoned a *14 yr old girl*, well it turned out to be a woman over the age of 22 and she had 3 children and a husband and she committed zina while married to a man. she was not 14 nor was she zina free, and they followed the shariah and stoned her. [/B][/COLOR]

Asalamu alaykum

ok i do remember that and i didn't believed that so she wasn't 14 at all? wow! hypocrites are out theri:astag: insha Allah i will never beleive such thing again.

wasalam
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
Sister Palestine you can't read it in english, its hard to see the subtitles.

yeah that's true. i could not see them either. but i think sister zaynab understands arabic so i posted it for her. just try to understand what you can get inshaAllah. :salam2:
 
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