Racism within the Ummah

DanyalSAC

Junior Member
Asalaamu alaikum brothers and sisters in Islam.

The title of this thread probably caused several different reactions to you brothers and sisters when you first read it. I'm walking out on a limb here to make an assumption: most of you probably thought "Racism in Islam? Never!" We know what Allah's Messenger s.a.w. said about racism having no place in Islam. But does that mean it doesn't happen?

My masjid has many revert brothers & sisters of different races, and several of us are Caucasian. Two of the white brothers - myself and one other - are active members of our community. I am active in two committees, one being our dawah committee - and he is a member of our education committee.

Because of this, he and I are both in the community's eye frequently. We are both known on first name basis by our masjid's board members. But even so, we're both amazed at the treatment we get by our brothers.

I can literally point out at least 5 random members on first entering for Jumuah that will refuse to accept my Salaam - or who will accept it but refuse to shake hands or reply to it. I was standing in a group with four other brothers in the wudu room; we were chatting as we dried off from making wudu. I was literally nudged aside by someone approaching us so he could give the Salaam to the other four - and ignored me (and this young man is one of our school's teachers!). Once I had approached the shoe rack getting ready to leave. There were four brothers standing in a rough circle in front of the rack. I offered the Salaam and extended my hand. The first brother shook it enthusiastically, the second mumbled something and turned his back. The other two - both of whom were younger - looked very embarrassed at this blatant snub and turned away from him to greet me & engage me in a "lets hurry and put this behind us" conversation (bless them for that!).

At the end of May this year the masajid in Sacramento hosted a large Palestine event. Our guest speaker was George Galloway MP (member of parliament). Outside the lecture hall we set up three tables: the first was the dawah table (mine), next to that was the Al Maghrib Institute's table (manned by the ameer of our Qabeelat who is Pakistani and next to him the other Caucasian brother mentioned above) and the 3rd table had merchandise offered for sale and was also manned by two non-Caucasians.

During the intermissions, the audience would spill out the doors and come down the row starting with my table. Though I was wearing a taghiyyah & have a Sunnah beard - and representing a fairly large Masjid's dawah committee! - I was shocked at how many brothers ignored me in favor of the Pakistani brother sitting at the table next to me. Some would even start asking HIM questions about Dawah while I sat there. One man skimmed past my table and then offered him the Salaam, at which point the other Caucasian brother offered his hand and the Salaam to the visitor. Afterward, he turned to me and said "See that? You have to reach in and TAKE it sometimes!" I think what got to me the most though was when the lecture took a break so the Muslims attending could pray Maghrib, not one single person came to tell me where they were praying or that they were going to begin. I ended up being the lone Muslim in the hall - the white guy who was NOT PRAYING - with all the non-Muslims looking at me with that "Oh he's not really a Muslim after all" look in their eye (I was able to join the salaat after the first rakat though as I already had wudu and was prepared).

Anyway - before I turn this thread into any more of a rant (sorry!), I guess I just needed to express how difficult it has been, at least in my community, to be both white and Muslim.

May Allah forgive me if I've said anything untrue, it is due to my ignorance and not a deliberate lie.

Ma salama

Danyal
 

Zaynab123

Subhana Allah!
Wa-alaykuma salaam brother

Gee, i gota beleive you brother. Nowadays it seems that the muslims are turning to the time of jahilayah (Igonrance) I guess all you have to do is have patience and i know that you know that that has got nothing to do with Islam. Its really hard to cope with racist folks. May Allah almighty guide them to the right path amiin. Just Smile and let go brother:):):)

wasalam
 

sommi

New Member
i think t is true in case of Muslim brother, i don't think its much common in muslim sisters. im from England and i go to Madrassa to learn to read Quran.we have sisters from differ races, so far i have never seen racisim but thn most of us are British born or grown up in Britain.

i don't know there can be many reason, your Masjid should give lecture on it, people with even a slightest faith will understand, INSHA ALLAH.
 
:salam2:

hold firm and may I remind you that if most of us have to go thru what the sahaba, ra and rasool, pbuh, went thru then you would just laugh this out and see it as something very minute.

There is nationalism diseased among the muslims today. It is hard to get rid of because they are heavily brainwashed by it.

remember make salam and if no one returns your right of salam back audibally reply to your self. I wish I had time to get the hadith or lesson about this.

may Allah guide us all and make ease for us and elevate the good deeds.

:wasalam:
 

sommi

New Member
sorry i didn't mean that because you are british muslim thn you are not racist, i meant we have sister of differ ages from 20 to 60+, but because we are often reminded that we all are equal by our teacher.
 

TheKnowledgeSeeker

A Believer In Heart
Assalamu Alaykum,

Wow, i never heard this but i have meet a brother who didn't want to go to all black Masjiid because of the way he felt or the way he was made to feel or something like that. It really is sad that among us we treat each other unequally. But on brighter note brother you have the chance to correct and make your local masjiid pay attention to this so SPEAK UP AGAINIST IT. Correct with your hand if not with your tongue if not with your heart. I really hope you take this opportunity to correct this so that later new Muslims are not treat that way. Please do something about it. Take care and May Allah SWT help you speak up againist it.
 

Kakorot

Junior Member
:wasalam:

May Allaah help u brother :( this is very sad. I guess my dad kinda knows how u feel. Like in the masjid and everything, it's ok, but when he's walking down the street, it's apparent that he's a revert. He also wears kameez and has a beard. When he says "salam" to some asian muslims (not all asians) they just turn their faces away and pretend not to notice, or they ignore him on purpose.
Racism is not from Islam it's just that Muslims these days do not know the teachings of Islam. I personally think that reverts should be respected and treated very kindly.

Fi amaan Allaah
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
:salam2:

Jazzak Allah kahir dear brother for sharing your sory with us,and it is mercy from Allah that He guide you to Islaam,and we all are very happy to have a new brother in Islaam,Mashallah.:)

It is very sad to hear wallahi that some Muslims are ignoring teaching of Islaam- racisms can not have,nither it should have place in islaam,like our Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s said "Arab is not better than Nono Arab,neither Non Arab is better than Arab",so it means that they are equel or they are only compered with thier deeds.We all are part of Ummah Alahmdulillah does not metter on our nacionality,color of our skin,orgin etc as long as we are Muslims and as long as we are folowers of Holy Quran and Sunnah.Thier bahaviour is not from Islamic one and may Allah guide them,and give you patiente Inshallah.

Welcome once again dear brother to Islaam.

May Allah bless you:tti_sister:

:wasalam:
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatuh

Well, is it a suprise?

When the people are away from the true and pure Islamic teachings, then everything wrong happens, not just disunity, racism, sexism etc, but the inability of Muslims to defend themselves and their honour.

The solution is always the same, for people to increase their efforts in the Deen, to really follow it in the right way, for the right reasons, intentions, be sincere. There are many cases like this, from individuals to organisations,

Now, we have people, outwardly they appear so good, even perhaps they have the right Aqeedah (albeit, they appease the people of innovation), and they use Islaam as some sort of business venture, so having gained a little bit of knowledge, can appear infront of the ignorant masses as some sort of scholars. They go against the advice and teachings of the Ulema', to only allow for what is suitable for their own agendas.

So, if people neglect their Lord and being sincere to him, then it is nothing that people ignore fellow human beings, fellow Muslims.

assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatuh
 

Safiyah_

Junior Member
It's a shame.
It doesn't matter if u are black, white, brown, yellow... We all come from the Creator so how is it possible to have racism?

I always feel sad when i hear about these cases, but it will always be in this world i guess. One day we will all see the truth and everyone will live side by side InshaAllah !
 

Deir Debwan

New Member
Salam Uailaikum ,

Dear brother in Islam , I am very sad to hear you and other muslim brothers were treated in this manner. As you already know , Islam does not accept these kinds of actions and racism. The hair on the back of my neck stood up when i read that this happened in Sacramento because i was born and raised in Lodi about 30 minutes south of Sacramento. I am a Palestinian Arab and almost all my relatives live in Lodi , and they go to Sacramento for the friday prayer. I am currently living in Arizona , but i am very farmiliar with the steroetype that sadly goes on among some muslims in the area.

I can relate to your story in ways too . In Lodi there is a huge population of Pakistani brothers , and a fair amount of Palestinian and other Arab brothers . For the most part we get along just fine , but there does exist a racial barrier mainly being persued by the Pakistani brothers wanting to control the masjid aswell as the muslim followers in the area. There has been small clashes in regards to this matter in the past , and to this date the Arabian brothers and Pakistani brothers in Lodi do not end the holy month of rammadan together. The Arabian brothers end rammadan in complience to the muslim scholers in Mecca , the Pakistani brothers always have something to say in protest every year , thus not allowing us to celebrate together in Lodi. My relatives and almost all the Arabian population in the area go to Sacramentos eid prayer aswell as friday prayer. I can only hope that this will come to an end someday because if we cant celebrate the eid together , i dont know how we can stand together on other issues.

I hope you do not judge the muslim population on the actions of a few. I would be honored to shake your hand and stand beside you in prayer my brother . May Allah bless you and your family....Go in peace Insha Allah
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakatuh

People go against a lot of things from the Qur'aan and Sunnah, from shirk, kufr, arrogance, being greedy, being bad to neighbours, being bad to parents, so racism is another thing, subhanAllaah.

"And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qur'aan 30:22

The Prophet :saw: said>

"An Arab is no better than a non-Arab. In return, a non-Arab is no better than an Arab. A red raced man was not better than a black one except in piety. Mankind are all Adam's children and Adam was created out of clay." [Al-Bukhari and Muslim, on the authority of Abu Musa]
 

DanyalSAC

Junior Member
Salam Uailaikum ,

Dear brother in Islam , I am very sad to hear you and other muslim brothers were treated in this manner. As you already know , Islam does not accept these kinds of actions and racism. The hair on the back of my neck stood up when i read that this happened in Sacramento because i was born and raised in Lodi about 30 minutes south of Sacramento. I am a Palestinian Arab and almost all my relatives live in Lodi , and they go to Sacramento for the friday prayer. I am currently living in Arizona , but i am very farmiliar with the steroetype that sadly goes on among some muslims in the area.

I can relate to your story in ways too . In Lodi there is a huge population of Pakistani brothers , and a fair amount of Palestinian and other Arab brothers . For the most part we get along just fine , but there does exist a racial barrier mainly being persued by the Pakistani brothers wanting to control the masjid aswell as the muslim followers in the area. There has been small clashes in regards to this matter in the past , and to this date the Arabian brothers and Pakistani brothers in Lodi do not end the holy month of rammadan together. The Arabian brothers end rammadan in complience to the muslim scholers in Mecca , the Pakistani brothers always have something to say in protest every year , thus not allowing us to celebrate together in Lodi. My relatives and almost all the Arabian population in the area go to Sacramentos eid prayer aswell as friday prayer. I can only hope that this will come to an end someday because if we cant celebrate the eid together , i dont know how we can stand together on other issues.

I hope you do not judge the muslim population on the actions of a few. I would be honored to shake your hand and stand beside you in prayer my brother . May Allah bless you and your family....Go in peace Insha Allah


While I would love to say Thank You to the posts all of you have made, I am singling this one out for a reason... I probably know some of your family who come to Sacramento (Masjid Annur maybe?). The other white brother in my story is also from Lodi and has some stories equal to mine (like how many brothers refuse to allow their shoulders to touch his during salat because he's white).

At any rate - brothers and sisters - I think as a member of our Dawah I could probably do some good with this subject. Perhaps I will mention it to our Shaykh and we can have an open house with that as the subject, inshallah...
 

Musulmanin

Junior Member
:salam2:

what do you brothers/sisters expect? people are not perfect and aspects of jahiliya are in the lives of so many people yet.

C'mon, let this not bother you, these mumbling and complaing people will always be there in 5,10, 20 etc years. Don't let them affect you.........I've met some of them too.

I find them pretty pathetic if their race or place of origin is the only thing they can be proud of. Joke!!!!!

Forgive their ignorance and move on there is so much more for muqmeenoon to do than to be put down by some ignorants in the ummah.
 

musliminah 05

Junior Member
:salam2:
I can totally understand what this brother is saying, as a revert sister myself I have been in Taleem gatherings and nobody has spoken to me, and when I have tried to enter into coversation have been ignored and sisters have spoken in urdu or gujrati even knowing english themselves. In fact I do not go to gatherings now as it affected my iman. I just couldnt understand how ignorant people could be when we are all the same human!!
Even in my area where I live I keep myself to myself I have one muslim sister who I see whom I met through my husband and I know of a couple more through this sister but do not see them more than maybe once a year. My life is with my family. and I have come over the years the accept this is just the way it is, better to keep myself to myself than to hurt and feel angry towards some people. Unfortunatly in this day and age we are ignorant and it isnt getting any better just worse, we have to hope and pray for salvation for one another. I honestly fear for my children having to grow up in these times it has changed so much even since I became a revert. My elder son whom also is a white revert dosnt even go to the musjid anymore- isnt that a terrible shame......................
May Allah guide us and forgive our sins.
Ameen
:wasalam::tti_sister:
 

NourAlDeen

Junior Member
Aoudu Bilahi mIna Shaitani Rajeem..

All thanks and praises are due to Allah subahana wata'ala, the Lord and Creator of the universe. Whome Allah azawajal guides non can misguide and whome Allah misguides non can guide.
Laailaha ilallah, Muhamadab rasuulallah.. May allah subhana wata'ala help us all, and guide us to the right path .. Ameeeeeen!!

BISMILLAH!

Allahu akbar, Sacramento?? How funny that I should google Sacramento to find out that it was a City in CA :)

Subhanallah.. Dont they know that the Prophet said: ''A Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. He does not oppress him, nor does he leave him at the mercy of others.".

The Prophet (saw) also said: "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself."

They are born Muslims and they know nothin about Islam, may Allah help them.. What are they thinkin about when they are not greetin you back??
Dont think about it, if they dont asnwers you salam the Malaika asnwer you back..

The prophet said about racism "Leave it. It is Rotten " [Bukhari & Muslim] refers to all forms of Asabiyah, nationalism, racism, and patriotism..

.. People should give up their pride in nations because this is a coal from the coals of hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than a lowly worm which pushes itself through khur (feces)." [abu Dawd and Tirmidhi].

Allah subahana wata'ala says:
„Who has created death and life, that He may test you which of you is best in deed. And He is the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving;“ (Al-Mulk 67:2)

"Does mankind think they will be left alone on saying, "we believe", and that they will not be tested? We did test those before them and Allah will certainly know those who are true from those who are false." (Qur'an 29:2)

Insha allah brother, be patience.. Allah loves those who are patient.. Whatever happens to you is just a test from ALLAH azawajal..

Once the sisters in my town was invited to a lecture in an Arabian masjid, when we came to the Masjid about 30min before the time the lecture were startin.. The room we had to sit in were closed, we asked some transient brothers to open the ladies room.. We were standing outside the Masjid for more than 20min while men went in and out of the majid, more sisters came. The way they looked at us.. Still we were standing outside and waitin, evertime we send a brother out we didnt get an asnwers.. They were simply indifferent to that there were women who stood outside and wanted to enter and listen to the lecture..

A second time in the same Masjid, me and some other sisters had a full day lecture.. When the lecture finished, we went to a place next to where we had the lectures, to buy somethin to eat as some of us were living in the other side of the city. Asr came, and we had to pray, and we thought alhamdulillah lets go and pray in that Masjid.. We came there, and the ladies room was closed, we asked a brother to open the door so that we can pray ( we were about 10sisters).. Than a man came out to us and said ''go home and pray there''.. We were shocked, thinkin '' aoudu billah, what is goin on here?? '' as we were used to the other 2 Majids in the city where we have some durusa/lessons (quran, arabic and someothere lessons).. Very ACTIVE in aducating sisters is Islam, alot of lesson Masha allah... Alhamdulillah.. And the Ladies room is always open, always.. I dont know what I should call what they did, I really start hating that Masjid, doesnt women have the right to be in the Masjid..
As well as men, does women have the right to pray and go to Masjids..

Also about when it comes to praying (as some arabian sisters do), Allahu a'lam if its kinda recism or lack of knowledge.. When we are praying our shoulders and feet should touch, and we should stand in straight line/rows, if one cant finde a place to stand in the last row he/she should take one from the last row so she does not stand alone.. When am praying with these sisters, its like they doesnt want our feet or shoulders to touch.. May ALLAH azawajal guide them..

May allah subhana wata'ala help you and those who facing same thing inshaALLAH, and makes us among those whome he is satisfied with insha allah..

Wa billahi taqfiiq
Fi amanillah!!
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
Racism is present in every community and society. Which is why it doesn't surprise me if Muslims are racist. But it's saddens me a bit more because Islam teaches the exact opposite so clearly.
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
:salam2:
sisters have spoken in urdu or gujrati even knowing english themselves.

UGH, THIS. This happened to me several times and it drives me nuts. It's just rude. Then when this happens, it's usually the older auntie who speaks almost no English who makes an effort to speak to me.
 

Musulmanin

Junior Member
We all know the behavior of those ignorants is not Islamic, let's just make dua they will see that and fix it.

I hope moderators close this thread.
 
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