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Theatheist

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Hi,

As you can tell by my username, I am an Atheist. I used to be a devout Catholic, and now I reject all forms of religion.

I invite you to ask me any questions you have regarding Atheism, secularism and evolution. It'll be very interesting to share some dialogue, and maybe we can learn about each other.

Kind regards,
The Atheist.
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
well as an atheist u dont beleive in God.
but there must me one kind of supernatural power which created this world.
according to ur understand,what is the supernatural power?can u tell me how u and the universe were created?
 

Theatheist

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well as an atheist u dont beleive in God.
but there must me one kind of supernatural power which created this world.
according to ur understand,what is the supernatural power?can u tell me how u and the universe were created?

You say that there 'must' be a supernatural power which created this world. Why is that? I don't understand why this is needed when everything can be explained through naturalism.

We have naturalistic explanations for the diversity of life (Evolution) and non-living organic organisms becoming living organic organisms (abiogenesis). We've explained the age of the universe and the origins of life itself.

With regards to the very existence of the universe, there are two main naturalistic schools of thought. The Big Bang and multiverse theory.

I bet you have an understanding of Big Bang theory, so I won't bore you with all the details. I will share with you a link to a youtube video explaining multiverse theory.

h ttp://w ww.yout ube .co m/wa tch?v=-rg3u NrI8tE [remove spaces]

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If you feel I have explained things inadequately, or you are unsatisfied with my reply, feel free to probe me further. I accept all comments and criticism.

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Can I just add, the community here is very kind and considerate! The welcome I have received in PM's is very nice! Thanks a lot!
 

Theatheist

New Member
Right, off to bed now, but if you leave your messages and questions, I'll respond tomorrow night.

Kind wishes,
The Atheist
 

Theatheist

New Member
hi

just one question please befor you sleep :)

can the iron and vinils make a car by them selfs ?

thanks

by Abdalilah the msulim man a destroyer of Atheists fallasy .


I was *about* to go to bed, but I figured I might as well answer your question.

No, iron and vinyl with no interaction and input cannot make a car. We all know how a car is made. Raw materials are harvested, then they are processed. Then, they are shaped into parts and arranged in order that is both functional and aesthetically pleasing. We all know this.

I presume you're trying to ask me 'how can we have a universe without a designer'? Well, instead of the unprovable, kop-out answer that is 'God did it', which does not examine or search for an answer, we look for naturalistic explanations.

Since I'm tired and it's late, I'm going to go ahead and give you a brief example of a naturalistic example of our origins. I'm going to (very) quickly explain Darwinian evolution and natural selection for you.

All life (with a few exceptions) follows a pattern. We're born, we reproduce, we die. Fairly straightforward.

What happens when reproduction happens? I'm going to give the example of a single celled organisms, because it's fairly easy to understand.

A cell with copy its DNA and split. Sometimes, it makes errors when it copies the DNA. These are called mutations. These mutations fall into one of three categories.

1.) Beneficial
2.) Detrimental
3.) Benign.

As mutations occur and spread over long periods of time, they cause new species to form

Voila! The diversity of life explained via naturalism!

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That was a bit more verbose than I intended!

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If you feel I have not answered something, missed your point or have answered something unsatisfactorily, let me know and I'll come back to it.

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Good night! And to all people celebrating Ramadhan, enjoy your morning meal!
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
:) hello

Look brother welcome to TTI 1st of all :) and i just want to know if u believe that big bang came into being thru series of Random events or It was for a reason?

If you believe it was random like many Atheist do, which seems unlikely cuz everything u do ... u do for a reason and it has a -ve and +ve effect, as u might know the law every action has a re-action , so ther was some sort of action which resulted in the big bang now in the Quran Allah (swt) clearly tells us beautifully

Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? ... [ Quran 21: 30]

only the creator, who was there at the time big bang took place could tell u thats how the universe was created , no one cud say before that?
and if u go ahead and say that well the Greeks/Romans philosophers also said somethign like that and Quran picked it up, well please look into what that guy actually said it is even close to What Quran says
thx for ur time :)
 

Nayyararsi

Kashmiri Brother
You say that there 'must' be a supernatural power which created this world. Why is that? I don't understand why this is needed when everything can be explained through naturalism.
We have naturalistic explanations for the diversity of life (Evolution) and non-living organic organisms becoming living organic organisms (abiogenesis). We've explained the age of the universe and the origins of life itself.
With regards to the very existence of the universe, there are two main naturalistic schools of thought. The Big Bang and multiverse theory.
I bet you have an understanding of Big Bang theory, so I won't bore you with all the details. I will share with you a link to a youtube video explaining multiverse theory.
h ttp://w ww.yout ube .co m/wa tch?v=-rg3u NrI8tE [remove spaces]
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If you feel I have explained things inadequately, or you are unsatisfied with my reply, feel free to probe me further. I accept all comments and criticism.
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Can I just add, the community here is very kind and considerate! The welcome I have received in PM's is very nice! Thanks a lot!
Ok so you say that living beings were formed by non living organic organisms(abiogenesis) or by change in genetic material of organisms from one generation to next(evolution).My question is from where those non living organisms came and from where those generations came.You may say there were free elements present and they combined to form compounds and then go on and on but again i ask from where the elements came.Similarly in big bang and multiverse theories matter expanded to form the universe.But stop tell me from where the matter came.You can tell me that this thing was created from that ,that from this but my questions would continue from where that thing came.So in order to prove your point tell me from where the very fundamental particles(electron proton neuron or quarks )came. Does not man remember i created him while he was nothing.And indeed i have created man and i know what his ownself whispers to him.And i am nearer to him than his jugular vein(OUR CREATOR).
 

safiya58

Junior Member
hi Theatheist,

you explain the existing of universe through naturalism.. but when we regard the universe we will c it contains so much knowledge. if we try to imagine the universe as a whole we will be overwhelmed. the smallest parts of matter are atoms and even for them there are rules set so that they can "do their job"

when regarding the regulations behind the atoms, cells, galaxies... and so on... do you not ask yourself who set these rules...? I mean a rule can not be set by chance. also not by itself...! how is that ever possible...?
 

abdellah007

Junior Member
* Initiation: Could one argue with the ability of God alone to initiate every bit of matter? Or could matter create itself from nothing, or come to existence by an infinitesimally probable chance?
* Determination: Could chance alone produce such overwhelming diversity of chemical structures, biological species, and humankind? Could the diversity of the chemical elements in the periodic table, composed of the same subatomic particles, be the result of electrons, protons, and neutrons deciding for themselves to arrange these ways? From these elements, could the vast chemical and biochemical ones emerge by chaotic hits of chance?
* Design: Could one believe that each and every of the multitude of life systems would decide to function the unique and complex fashions they do, fashions that are much more complex and more precise than huge modern chemical plants? Could the unique genetic "software" implanted in each living cell be self-invented by the components of their DNAs?
* Harmony: Could the overall ecological balance between the biota, atmosphere, earth, and sea — which maintains biological diversity and environmental sustainability — be the product of nature's global "self-accord"?
* Sustenance: Could physical matter, at any level of complexity, deviate from the laws governing and maintaining its existence, properties, and behavior?
 

FreedomFighter

Junior Member
hi, welcome to TTI. this is taken from a post in TTI.

It is absolutely impossible that the earth and the universe and everything it contains could have been created from thin air or randomly and without purpose. That is in itself unscientific as well as inconcievable and unthinkable.

It is crystal clear for anyone who ponders and contemplates about life and the universe that everything around us on the earth and in the universe is created to support life and has a creator,designer,controller and regulator who has so perfectly and intricley and with absolute precision created everything around us so in order for life to live and survive.

Here are just some of the countless proofs of the existance of a creator,regulator,designer,nourisher and sustainer of life and the universe and everything it contains!

Gravity:

- If gravity were stronger, excessive ammonia and methane would collect in the Earth's atmosphere, which would have a most damaging effect on life.
- If it were weaker, the Earth's atmosphere would lose excessive quantities of water, making life impossible.
The Earth's Distance from the Sun:
- If this were any greater, the planet would grow very cold, the water cycle in the atmosphere would be affected, and the planet would enter an ice-age.
- If the Earth were any closer to the Sun, plants would burn up, the water cycle in the Earth's atmosphere would be irreparably damaged, and life would become impossible.-

The Thickness of the Earth's Crust:

- If the crust were any thicker, then an excessive amount of oxygen would be transferred to it from the atmosphere.
- If it were any thinner, the resulting amount of volcanic activity would make life impossible.

The Speed at which the Earth Revolves:

If this were any slower, the temperature difference between day and night would grow enormously.
-If it were any faster, then atmospheric winds would reach enormous speeds, and cyclones and storms would make life impossible.

The Earth's Magnetic Field:

- If this were any more powerful, very strong electromagnetic storms would arise.
- If it were any weaker, then the Earth would lose its protection against the harmful particles given off by the Sun and known as solar winds. Both situations would make life impossible.-
The Albedo Effect (Ratio between the amount of light the Earth reflects and the amount of light that is absorbed):
- If this were any greater, an ice-age would rapidly result.
- If it were any less, the greenhouse effect would lead to excessive warming. The Earth would first be flooded with the melting of the glaciers, and would then burn up.-

The Proportion of Oxygen and Nitrogen in the Atmosphere:

- If this were any greater, vital functions would be adversely accelerated.
- If it were any less, vital functions would adversely slow down.
The Proportion of Carbon Dioxide and Water in the Atmosphere:
- If this were any greater, the atmosphere would overheat.
- If it were any less, the temperature of the atmosphere would fall.

The Thickness of the Ozone Layer:

- If this were any greater, the Earth's temperature would fall enormously.
- If it were any less, the Earth would overheat and be defenceless against the harmful ultraviolet rays emitted by the Sun.

Seismic Activity (Earthquakes):

- If this were any greater, there would be constant upheaval for living things.
- If it were any less, the nutrients at the sea bottom would fail to spread into the water. This would have a damaging effect on life in the seas and oceans and all living things on Earth.-

The Earth's Angle of Tilt:

The Earth has a 23 degree angle of inclination to its orbit. It is this inclination that gives rise to the seasons. If this angle was any greater or any less than it is now, the temperature difference between the seasons would reach extreme dimensions, with unbearably hot summers and bitterly cold winters.

The Size of the Sun:

A smaller star than the Sun would mean the Earth would freeze and a larger star would lead to its burning up.

The Attraction between the Earth and the Moon:

- If this were any greater, the powerful attraction of the Moon would have extremely serious effects on atmospheric conditions, the speed at which the Earth revolves around its own axis and on the ocean tides.
- If it were any less, this would lead to extreme climate changes.-
The Distance between the Earth and the Moon:
- If they were just a little closer, the Moon would crash into the Earth.
- If they were any further, the Moon would become lost in space.
- If they were even a little closer, the Moon's effect on the Earth's tides would reach dangerous dimensions. Ocean waves would inundate low-lying areas. The friction emerging as a result of this would raise the temperature of the oceans and the sensitive temperature balance essential to life on Earth would disappear.
- If they were even a little further away, the tides would decrease, leading the oceans to be less mobile. Immobile water would endanger life in the seas, and the level of the oxygen we breathe would be endangered.

The Qur’an states:

The kingdom of the heavens and earth belongs to Allah. Allah has power over all things. In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are Signs for people with intelligence.
(Qur’an, 3:189-190)

The Temperature of the Earth and Carbon-Based Life:

The existence of carbon, the basis of all life, depends on the temperature remaining within specific limits. Carbon is an essential substance for organic molecules such as amino-acid, nucleic acid and protein: These constitute the basis of life. For that reason, life can only be carbon-based. Given this, the existing temperature needs to be no lower than -20 degrees and no higher than 120 degrees Celsius. These are just the temperature limits on Earth.

These are just a few of the exceedingly sensitive balances which are essential for life on Earth to have emerged and to survive. Yet even these are sufficient to definitively reveal that the Earth and the universe could not have come into being as the result of a number of consecutive coincidences. The concepts of "fine-tuning" and the "anthropic principle" that began to be employed in the 20th century are further evidence of Allah's creation. The harmony and proportion therein were described with magnificent accuracy fourteen centuries ago in the Qur'an.

ORBITS AND THE ROTATING UNIVERSE

One of the most important reasons for the great equilibrium in the universe is the fact that celestial bodies follow specific paths. Stars, planets and satellites rotate around their own axes and also rotate together within the system of which they are a part of.

The universe functions within a finely-tuned order, just like the wheels in a factory.

There are more than 100 billion galaxies in the visible universe and each small galaxy contains approximately a billion stars. Furthermore, each big galaxy contains more than a trillion. Many of these stars have planets and many of those planets have satellites. All these celestial bodies follow the most finely calculated paths and orbits. For millions of years, each one has been moving in its own path in flawless harmony with all the others. In addition to these, there are also a great many comets moving along in their own pre-determined paths.

In addition, the paths in the universe are not restricted to a few celestial bodies. The Solar System and even other galaxies also exhibit considerable motion around other centres. Every year, Earth, and the Solar System with it, move some 500 million km from where they were the previous year. It has been calculated that even the slightest deviation from celestial bodies' paths could have drastic consequences which might spell the end of the entire system. For example, the consequences of the earth's deviating from its course by a mere 3 mm have been described in one source as follows:

While rotating around the sun, the earth follows such an orbit that, every 18 miles; it only deviates 2.8 millimetres from a direct course. The orbit followed by the earth never changes, because even a deviation of 3 millimetres would cause catastrophic disasters: If the deviation were 2.5 mm instead of 2.8 mm, then the orbit would be very large, and all of us would freeze. If the deviation were 3.1 mm, we would be scorched to death.

Another characteristic of heavenly bodies is that they also rotate around their own axes. The verse which reads"[I swear] by Heaven with its cyclical systems," (Qur'an, 86:11) indicates this truth.

Naturally, at the time when the Qur'an was revealed, people had no telescopes with which to study bodies millions of kilometres away in space, advanced observation technology or our modern knowledge of physics and astronomy. It was therefore impossible to establish that space had "its oscillating orbits," (Qur'an, 51:7) as described in the verse. The Qur'an however, revealed at that time, provided clear information concerning that fact. This is proof that this book is indeed Allah's Word.

He is the master of the universe the Almighty self sufficient most Compassionate most Merciful and Sustainer of all life and without Him we would be no more. Ponder and think to yourself look around you and you will realise that all life and everything around you is proof of his existance. Ask of Him with sincerity to show you signs and i promise you he will in some way or another and if you fail to see it then it is only your own ignorance and pride that is preventing you from wanting to believe His signs. Be open and ask of Him with humility and sincerity and He WILL show you sings and the truth!

"It is We Who have created you. Why, then, do you not accept the truth? Have you ever considered that (seed) which you emit? Is it you who create it? Or are We the Creator?"
(The Qur'an, 56:57-59)

"Does man reckon he will be left uncontrolled (without purpose)? Was he not once a drop of ejected semen?"
(The Qur'an, 75:36-37)
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
Hello..

How about I ask the cliche question:

*why did you reject all forms of religion?..what made you choose atheism?*

Take Care
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
if I was born in a catholic family I would also had become an atheist in my later years after seeing the clear paganism in catholism/christianity like worshipping statues of jesus and mary and the "father-god" and the roseary, the trinity the worship of the priests and the pope who gets "messages" from jesus etc.

My Advise to you is the Read about the fundamentals of Islam starting with Tawheed which is the most important subject/topic in Islam

here is the link for the Kitab Al-Tawheed:

http://www.islamicweb.com/beliefs/creed/abdulwahab/
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
Well, you already have your plate full with answering everyone's questions, but I wonder.

If the Big Bang and the creation of the universe was just coincidental, how come with the universe's vastness and 8 other planets (or 7, if you want to get technical) in our solar system only Earth has life, society, culture, etc?

If it *was* coincidence, other planets would have had life too right? Some more intelligent than ours, some less so. But its not. Isn't that like a sign?
 

muharram23

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What is theory? An educated guess? Theory is a speculation which can't be prooven. Big bang and other theories are just theories. If it was a fact which could be prooven, it would not be called a theory. In Quran, it mentions the big bang that the heavens and earth were joined together and Allah (the only true God to b worshipped) split them apart. but we don't believe it all came from itself but Allah was the One who permitted and ordered it to happen. If you want proof from Quran, I will be glad to give it to you. Imagine our prophet :saw: told us 1400 years ago which was recently being known about.

But I still don't understand why people follow theories (which can't be prooven as a fact) and be firm upon that over the Quran.

If a simple thing as a car can't originate from itself yet the enormous universe, galaxies, planets etc. Can?

Tace care
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
Hello Theatheist,

Welcome to TTI family.

First of all, I congratulate you for being an atheist. Why? Because you have already said and believed in the First Words of the First Part of Islamic Shahada. That is "Laa Ilaaha" (There is no God). The second Words are "Illallah" (But Allah), which we shall try to convince you to InshaAllah (God Willing).

Most of the people who belongs to different religions in this world are such because their parents are such. Christian because their parents are christian, Hindus because their parents are Hindus, Buddhist because their parents are Buddhist and even some Muslims are there who are Muslims because their parents are Muslims. These are the most ignorant of all.

We all MUST look for the truthfulness of our belief with our brain, with the modern science, with history etc etc.

The reason I congratulate you is because you ARE unlike them. You attempted to think about the God you worship. When you found that is totally falsehood, you chose to leave it, although your parents are having a different belief.

There are many people who were Christians before they changed their mind according to Atheism, who embraced Islam after further research on God's existence and on their Belief. Even TTI has some of them. :)

So this is your turn my brother in Humanity. Keep an open-mind unlike some people who came here before. Yeah their mind was not only closed, but sealed tightly, before coming here, and neither they, nor us were benefited from them.

As many brothers and sisters have already asked so many questions, I am not going to ask any, for now.

Have a wonderful stay with TTI family. :)

Peace
 

moedjs

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All life (with a few exceptions) follows a pattern.

You admit it yourself .. a pattern is a power beyond humans and the universe itself..

Who made such pattern .. why it has to follows a pattern ..

Conclusion: a pattern is made by pattern creator ..
 
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