Essay Response on the Documentary Religulous

True_Sultan

A logical believer
Salam brothers and Sisters,

For english class we are giving a project to choose a documentary and write an essay for or against it. I chose religulous as one, and its thesis is that "Religion is just control and religion is the real evil of this world" which clearly i disgaree. So can you guys help me in giving me some reasons to back me up? Like so quranic ayats or some accurate hadiths? I know for a fact that some of the confusion and the whole sects of relgion is due to misinterpretation and corruption of the jelous.

So please help :p:hearts:
 

Waseem203

Young Muslim
Alaykum is salam brother,

I was wondering if your essay is meant to be written in a broad point of view (with no basis in a particular religion) or in an Islamic point of view?


Wasalam alaykom
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
Alaykum is salam brother,

I was wondering if your essay is meant to be written in a broad point of view (with no basis in a particular religion) or in an Islamic point of view?


Wasalam alaykom

Well we have a choice on which documentary to write an essay on and it is mostly like we either agree or disagree and i believe its also a type of reply. And for that reason i have multiple documentaries and im just trying to find all info and at the end use the one with most information. Also for the essay on Religulous its on my opinion so im going to defend Islam but i can defend religion is general as well

:muslim_child:
 

abubaseer

tanzil.info
Staff member
Salam brothers and Sisters,
"Religion is just control

Again, Control needs to be defined.
Freedom of Expression
Freedom to Property

Total State control as in Former USSR and in no Control in Western "Secular" Countries Vs the Middle Path of Control as presented by Islaam.

Where People have right to Property as long as they pay Zakah etc...

religion is the real evil of this world"

If this was true then, there would be no evil in Countries/Societies which are based on Non Religious Laws like Atheism and Secular Laws.

"Evil" would be need to be defined in a tangible manner like:
Murders, Rapes, Suicides, Theft. Racism, Economic Injustice etc

You can cite statistics from the Former USSR and USA and also data from Muslim Country like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to point it out...

Also, you should not try to defend all Religions, and argue many Evils due to religion are because People have gone on into Extreme with Religion and changed the Laws of religion.

Axample Sexual abuse in Churches is because, they have gone against their Religion. They were never commanded by Allah to practice Celibacy.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
i think the topic refers to all religions in general.
therefore if you try to defend islam, you are implying that other religions are evil. i think you should take this topic without being biased towards islam or any single religion.
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
I've only seen 2/3 of that documentary, and I think it only really talks about Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, right? This paper sounds like it needs to be broad, not specific to Islam. If you want to start bringing up hadiths and stuff for Islam then you should also defend Christianity and Judaism since the documentary is about all 3.
 

Ibn Uthaymin

Junior member
Religulous by Bill Maher right? I`ve watched it. He just shows some fighting clips in Gaza and claims this is the religion of Islam and what Muslims do. Its completely biased.
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
Brother, Islam is full of Peace, Blessing (Rahmah) and humility to each other. Deen (Religion) organizes and comands us to love one another and be united. It tells us to be modest, patient, pure and respect others and love our Parents.

Islam is all about Love, to love our Brothers and sisters, to love Allaah and his messenger :saw2: and to avoiding fighting with eachother, to help the poor and protect the oppressed. It tells us to have manners, to not to hurt a life unjustly, to not to kill even an "ant" (note: the army of Sulayman disussed in the Qur'aan), It tells us to serve our parents, it tells us to obey Allaah and his Messenger :saw2: It is our total Submission to our Lord (Rabb). It gives us guidance and organizes us so we donot misguide ourselves and above all, we donot misguide our inner soul.

I will narrate a few ahaadeeth, and then give you the link to the whole book, Adaab al-Mufrad by Bukhaaree, entitled: "The Etiquette and Manners" [of specifically a "Muslim" and what he is required to do].

The Humility towards Parents

Bahz ibn Hakim's grandfather said, "I asked, 'Messenger of Allah, to whom should I be dutiful?' 'Your mother,' he replied. I asked, 'Then whom?' 'Your mother,' he replied. I asked, 'Then whom?' 'Your mother,' he replied. I asked, 'Then to whom should I be dutiful?' 'Your father,' he replied, 'and then the next closest relative and then the next.'" (Adaab Al-Mufrad, 1:3)

To Love our Brothers and serve them what we serve for ourselves

Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "None of you will have faith till he wishes for his (Muslim) brother what he likes for himself." (Sahih Bukhari, Book 2, Hadith 12)

To Help the Oppressed

Narrated Al-Bara' bin 'Azib: Allah's Apostle ordered us to do seven things and forbade us to do other seven. He ordered us: to follow the funeral procession. to visit the sick, to accept invitations, to help the Oppressed, to fulfill the oaths, to return the greeting and to reply to the sneezer: (saying, "May Allah be merciful on you," provided the sneezer says, "All the praises are for Allah,"). He forbade us to use silver utensils and dishes and to wear golden rings, silk (clothes), Dibaj (pure silk cloth), Qissi and Istabraq (two kinds of silk cloths). (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #23, Hadith #331)

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an Oppressed one." (Book Sahih Bukhaaree #43, Hadith #623)

Narrated Anas: Allah's Apostle said, "Help your brother, whether he is an oppressor or he is an Oppressed one. People asked, "O Allah's Apostle! It is all right to help him if he is Oppressed, but how should we help him if he is an oppressor?" The Prophet said, "By preventing him from oppressing others." (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #43, Hadith #624)

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet sent Mu'adh to Yemen and said, "Be afraid, from the curse of the Oppressed as there is no screen between his invocation and Allah." (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #43, Hadith #628)

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever has Oppressed another person concerning his reputation or anything else, he should beg him to forgive him before the Day of Resurrection when there will be no money (to compensate for wrong deeds), but if he has good deeds, those good deeds will be taken from him according to his oppression which he has done, and if he has no good deeds, the sins of the Oppressed person will be loaded on him." (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #43, Hadith #629)

To Give Alms to the poor and help them / feed them

(3) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: A man asked the Prophet , "What sort of deeds or (what qualities of) Islam are good?" The Prophet replied, 'To feed (the poor) and greet those whom you know and those whom you do not Know (See Hadith No. 27). (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #2, Hadith #11)

(4) Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: A person asked Allah's Apostle . "What (sort of) deeds in or (what qualities of) Islam are good?" He replied, "To feed (the poor) and greet those whom you know and those whom you don't know." (Sahih Bukhaaree Book #2, Hadith #27)

Islaam is full of such beauiful things and deeds, their reward is dear to Allaah and full of Gratitude, unfortunately, I cannot relate the whole thing here, It will cost me my whole life narrating and writting about the humility and Justice (As of Umar (r.a) Islaam has and even till then, I won't be able to tell even nearly a quarter of it.

Please read more here if you need help: http://www.*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!/Library/Hadith/H0003P0021.aspx

And search in Hadeeth and Qur'aan here: http://www.searchtruth.com/searchHadith.php

Wa`alaykum us-salaam

Mashallah brother, thanks for thoughs links, I will get search them up when im writing the essay, but im considering this as an option, i could choose a documentary such as "Aftermath" or "An Inconvienient Truth"

I have a Question for you:

Does the Above ahaadeeth and ahsaanaat which I mentioned the real evil of this world? To feed the poor, to help the oppressed, to love the parents, to love our brothers, will this ever lead us to EVIL??? Subhana Allaah!!!

Wa`alaykym us-salaam

Yes this will be my conclusion to one of my arguments thank you :)

Again, Control needs to be defined.
Freedom of Expression
Freedom to Property

Total State control as in Former USSR and in no Control in Western "Secular" Countries Vs the Middle Path of Control as presented by Islaam.

Where People have right to Property as long as they pay Zakah etc...



If this was true then, there would be no evil in Countries/Societies which are based on Non Religious Laws like Atheism and Secular Laws.

"Evil" would be need to be defined in a tangible manner like:
Murders, Rapes, Suicides, Theft. Racism, Economic Injustice etc

You can cite statistics from the Former USSR and USA and also data from Muslim Country like Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to point it out...

Also, you should not try to defend all Religions, and argue many Evils due to religion are because People have gone on into Extreme with Religion and changed the Laws of religion.

Axample Sexual abuse in Churches is because, they have gone against their Religion. They were never commanded by Allah to practice Celibacy.

Yes thank you brother Abuseer, i love this, this is a logical argument, much of his so called "Arguments" in the documentary isn't clearly defined and in his context i believe he is going around with logical fallacy as he is trying to persuade people to doubt as doubt will better the society with scientific, ethical and other advances in which I say can be done and is promoted by Allah and the way of like called "Islam"

i think the topic refers to all religions in general.
therefore if you try to defend islam, you are implying that other religions are evil. i think you should take this topic without being biased towards islam or any single religion.

I've only seen 2/3 of that documentary, and I think it only really talks about Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, right? This paper sounds like it needs to be broad, not specific to Islam. If you want to start bringing up hadiths and stuff for Islam then you should also defend Christianity and Judaism since the documentary is about all 3.

Religulous by Bill Maher right? I`ve watched it. He just shows some fighting clips in Gaza and claims this is the religion of Islam and what Muslims do. Its completely biased.

To you brothers who replyed with thoughs above:

Yes it is biased and yes its speaking in general, so i thought of being biased myself and defend one part "namely Islam". but as i said above i have choices, if u guys can provide me with another documentary like "An inconvieniant truth" or "Aftermath" which both of them i have viewed, so im open for opinions :)

Jakkaz Allah Khair to all that spent there time to reply :D:SMILY206:
 

arzafar

Junior Member
ok here is my suggestion!

why not capture all religions. since the true religion is islam you can say that as long as the people followed the true teachings of their religion they contributed a lot to the world. however, when people gave into their own whims and desires they corrupted their religion following which led to evils. this is true for all religions.

"Religion is just control and religion is the real evil of this world"

points.

control - not a bad thing at all. without controls/laws there would be mayhem. everything around us works under a set of laws. planetary systems, atoms etc, so human beings too require a set of laws. even secular laws are a form of control.

real evil - what is evil? killing innocents is one of the gravest evils right. quote some figures from WWI, WWII, Marxist revolution, Chinese revolution and many other secular wars. no religion involved in any of them, millions of innocent people killed as a result. In fact russia and china to date battle against religion in their countries.

achievements of religion.
highlight some scientists, mathematicians, social welfare workers etc. who are/were motivated by religion to do good.
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
ok here is my suggestion!

why not capture all religions. since the true religion is islam you can say that as long as the people followed the true teachings of their religion they contributed a lot to the world. however, when people gave into their own whims and desires they corrupted their religion following which led to evils. this is true for all religions.

"Religion is just control and religion is the real evil of this world"

points.

control - not a bad thing at all. without controls/laws there would be mayhem. everything around us works under a set of laws. planetary systems, atoms etc, so human beings too require a set of laws. even secular laws are a form of control.

real evil - what is evil? killing innocents is one of the gravest evils right. quote some figures from WWI, WWII, Marxist revolution, Chinese revolution and many other secular wars. no religion involved in any of them, millions of innocent people killed as a result. In fact russia and china to date battle against religion in their countries.

achievements of religion.
highlight some scientists, mathematicians, social welfare workers etc. who are/were motivated by religion to do good.

Yet another valid point, what is control and control can be good, also i love the question, what is evil, but if u can elaborate more on how i can say that following there true version of religion, because i do not get judaism, and i don't get the whole trinity thing in Christianity so yeah...care to elaborate,

plus im having some thoughts on either doing an essay on "An Inconvienient Truth" or "Aftermath" or "2012" :p
 

arzafar

Junior Member
Yet another valid point, what is control and control can be good, also i love the question, what is evil, but if u can elaborate more on how i can say that following there true version of religion, because i do not get judaism, and i don't get the whole trinity thing in Christianity so yeah...care to elaborate,

plus im having some thoughts on either doing an essay on "An Inconvienient Truth" or "Aftermath" or "2012" :p

yeah better change the topic.

by true version of every religion, i meant that the original message of every religion was monotheism but people distorted this message over time.
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
:salam2:

Islam teaches man to control his anger, his lusts , his vain desires , his greed, ...................and make him walk on this earth with a free soul and pure heart. By being slaves to our own creator we are free from evils and darck spots.:salah:
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
yeah better change the topic.

by true version of every religion, i meant that the original message of every religion was monotheism but people distorted this message over time.

Yeah maybe I should, unless someone else can give me an idea, plus I see your point brother, i have to see if i can somehow use that idea and make it perfect for the essay, i don't want any circular reasoning or logical fallacy :D

:salam2:

Islam teaches man to control his anger, his lusts , his vain desires , his greed, ...................and make him walk on this earth with a free soul and pure heart. By being slaves to our own creator we are free from evils and darck spots.:salah:

Thank you sister, but (please forgive me if im wrong) i kinda feel wierd when we people are called Slaves, i know that Allah is our lord/king but he is the creator and our friend, so i don't know why, but i feel sad in such a way when ever im called or see the word slave :(
 
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