Fadail e Amal is a Book of Innovation?????

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wannabe_muttaqi

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Can someone please explain me "Is 'Fadail e Amal' is a Book of Innovation"? because i knew many tabliq people they don't say anything other than Quran and Sunnah.

what i thought is Prophet(SAW) asked Sahabas to goto different places and preach Islam....thats all they do as i have dealt with them very closely.

i'm not trying to offend anybody but if you could correct me if i'm wrong that would help me correct my deen.

Jazakallahumma Khair.
 
Abu Sarah

Abu Sarah

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Assalam Alaykum

yes, Akhi 'Fadail e Amal' is a Book of Innovation

look Akhi what is in Fadail E- Amal, Fadail E Sadaqaat and Fadail E Hajj is witness enough that Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh are the modern day Sufis and have many aspects of Shirk and superstitions within them.

also i find in Fadail E- Amal Exaggeration in Praising Allah’s Messenger :)saw:)

and Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh have good and evil, and they are innovators, Maatureediyyah in their 'aqeedah and bigoted Ahnaaf (followers of the Hanafee madhhab).

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) saied:
The Tableeghi Jama’ah does not have a clear idea on matters of ‘aqeedah, so it is not permissible for anyone to go out with them apart from the one who has knowledge and understanding of the correct ‘aqeedah followed by Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, so that he can teach them, advise them and cooperate with them for good purposes, because they are very active, but they need more knowledge and they need scholars who know about Tawheed and the Sunnah to teach them. May Allaah help us all to understand His religion properly and adhere to it steadfastly…

Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz, 8/331
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i leave u in care of Allah

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hafz

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fadaile ammal

Im sorry but I have to disagree with your view that fadhaaile amaal is harmful to your beliefs and as a book of innovation.
Firstly you give the fatwa of Shaykh ibn baaz , there are many mufti's who have given fatwas to the contrary.
I was previously very opposed to the jamaat on similar principles but after many years of seeing their work and the fruits of their labour, I think you will seldom find a group which has benefitted mankind so greatly going across the 7 continents. It is completely non political , any alim etc with political connections or otherwise to a govt or Islamic court cannot wholly be trusted.
Remember the great ulama of the past would not be attached to any govt. on principle that they may be swayed by political pressures.
Remember to judge them by the fruits of their deeds.Also it is wrong to say that they teach shirk, have you met the scholars or been to jammat with them? or do you rely on heresay.
They teach tauhid to the highest level but sometimes we became blinded by our own persuasions and fail to see the truth.I know because I did the same.
They are not bareilawi . They dont teach you to pray at graves but they are not salafi either.Remember the middle way I think you will find it is them.
 
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junaid hasan

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i just want to say that read first those books and the evidence of those hadiths.
never believe whatever a shaikh say from his knowledge.
as brother hafz said that you can bring fatwa of a mufite but there are 1000 of mufti´s fatwa to the contray.
dont you see those 1000 mufti´s or the fatwa of those mufti´s?
and about the work of tablighi brothers?
none of you came to my house to talk about islam in my past 16 year life.
you seat just in sofa´s and quote fatwa´s.
i never thought about islam and there was only a one step difference between me and kuffar.
if i gave it then i were no more muslim today.
anyway i never believed whatever a shaikh says against a jamat untill to be with those jamat.
and try to read about the writter of this book who was shaikhul hadith maulana zakariyya (rahmatullahi alaih) .
one of the best olama of last centuries.
he is the teacher of bukhari sharif in masjide nawabih for 10 year long.
and if you think that he is gonna wrote a innovation book then i have nothing to say.
you can ask those olama´s those who accept this as a normal book for evidence.
if they are able to give evidence then i think you must accept it as a normal book.
and if they are not able to give evidence than its absouloutly a book of innovance.

and brothers and sisters learn first what is means daif hadith (weak hadiths)
the hadiths about shariyaah are all mttuafiqun alaih.
but a lot of hadiths about rewards are daif(week)
but a hadiths is never wrong.
if you can prove that its not right then its should not be called hadiths.
allah knows the best.
 
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junaid hasan

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islamicfajr said:
and Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh have good and evil, and they are innovators, Maatureediyyah in their 'aqeedah and bigoted Ahnaaf (followers of the Hanafee madhhab).



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brother if you think that this book is only read by the people of hanafi madhab then you should sepnd time with this jamat.

in my mosque i am only one person who is hanafi and all other are shafai and hambli.
so dont think its a work of hanafi´s , its a work of ummaati mohammadi(sw)

and i would like to say dont quote in this website any lectures of any shaikhs or fatwa.,
because its can be possible there are 1000 fatwa agianst that hadiths.

quote here just only the evidence of hadiths.
 
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junaid hasan

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wannabe_muttaqi said:
Can someone please explain me "Is 'Fadail e Amal' is a Book of Innovation"? because i knew many tabliq people they don't say anything other than Quran and Sunnah.

what i thought is Prophet(SAW) asked Sahabas to goto different places and preach Islam....thats all they do as i have dealt with them very closely.

Jazakallahumma Khair.
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if there is a something which is not related with quran and sunnah then you must not folow them.
whatever they says it doesn´t mean they are right.

now a days whatever a muslim do its not islam or?
isn´t like that?
whatever a tablighi brother says can possible which is not related with quran and sunnah.

and they not go just out to preach islam ,,,they go for to learn islam.
they learn first for themselves and for their iman .
 
Abu Sarah

Abu Sarah

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Assalam Alaykum

dear All,

1st plz refer to these links n thanks 4 sister / hurul-ein 4 sharing it

hurul-ein said:
Assalamu alaikum,

Are there Baseless Stories in the Fazaail Aamal that harm the Aqeedah (Beliefs)?

The Largest Publisher of the Fazaail-e-Amaal (Tableeghi Nisaab) makes Tawbah
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The fact that fadail-e-amal has weak hadiths

and Here :Our attitude concerning da’eef (weak) ahaadeeth which speak of good deeds

and plz keep in ur mind i saied that:

Jamaa'at ut-Tableegh have good and evil, and they are innovators, Maatureediyyah in their 'aqeedah and bigoted Ahnaaf (followers of the Hanafee madhhab).

and Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) saied:
The Tableeghi Jama’ah does not have a clear idea on matters of ‘aqeedah, so it is not permissible for anyone to go out with them
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when i was talk about ther Madhhab i talk it's Root.....

about the Fatwa i was take it from Salafi's scholar only ok..

plz read : the madhhab followed when answering questions submitted to the site


about the brother who's saied maulana zakariyya (rahmatullahi alaih)

i don't like Word ''maulana"

finally i advise you to learn Islam and ‘aqeedah (belief, tenets of faith) from the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and from the books of the salaf (early generations) of this ummah. You should read the books of ‘aqeedah written by the earliest generations, such as al-Sunnah by Imaam Ahmad and his son ‘Abd-Allaah; al-Sunnah by Abu ‘Aasim; al-Eemaan by Ibn Abi Shaybah, and other books written by the scholars who did not join or take sides with any group or sect, but rather relied on the clear evidence (daleel) and the Sunnah of the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

and if u wanna learn Etiquette of the seeker of knowledge

Here : How to seek knowledge

and here : Fundamental Beliefs in Islam Tawheed and Aqeedah

and to avoid All kinds of bid’ah and shirk
plz read : Research on bid’ah and shirk in Detailed
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we haven't anything 4 Discussion then Theard closed..

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