Imam Ahmad ordered the jinn to leave and they responded

[Abu Talib]

It is related that Imam Ahmad was sitting in his mosque. There came to him one of his companions from the caliph al-Mutawakil. The man said to Ahmad, “In the house of the commander of the Believers, there is a slave-girl who is possessed. He sent me to you for you to pray for her recovery.” Ahmad gave him a pair of wooden shoes and said, “Go to the house of the commander of the believers and sit at the head of the slave girl and say to the jinn, Ahmad has said to you, “Which do you prefer: leaving this slave-girl or being struck by these shoes seventy times?”

The man went with the shoes to the slave girl and he did as he was instructed. He heard from the tongue of the slave-girl, “Listening and obedience is for Ahmad. If he were to order us to leave Iraq, we would leave it. He obeys Allah and for whoever obeys Allah, everything is obedient to him.” It left the slave girl. She became better and afterwards she gave birth to children. Then Ahmad died and the jinn returned again to the slave girl. The commander called the same companion again to come. He came with the same shoes and said to the jinn, “Leave or else I will strike you with this shoe.” The jinn said, “I will not leave nor will I obey you but Ahmad ibn Hanbal obeyed Allah and we were ordered to obey him.”

Source : The World of the Jinn & Devils - Umar S. al-Ashqar

 

[khangul]

:salam2:

Subhanallah !!! jazaakallah khair brother for a very good post.

 

[ShyHijabi]

:salam2:

Is there a hadith about this? I ask because Iraq wasn't called "Iraq" until fairly recently in history.

 

[Idris16]

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Wa `alaykum salam warahmatullah wabarakatuh

There are hadîths mentioning Iraq. The prophet have talked about the Khawârij. Or is Iraq only mentioned in the translated Sahih hadiths?

SubhanAllah, what a story! Is it authentic? Where's the reference?

 

[Abu Talib]

Assalamu`alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatu

No its not a hadeeth as far as I know Iraaq is used since Arabs conquered Persia.

The source is mentioned "The world of Jinns and devils"' page 210

 

[strive-may-i]

One of many reasons , why the madhab founders are revered. They were not mere knowledgeable scholars. Offcourse they were in distant past, but they were closer to Prophets time , than us....

:salam2:
Is there a hadith about this? I ask because Iraq wasn't called "Iraq" until fairly recently in history.

Whats hadith to do here? can you be more accurate with "fairly recently part" please, am eager to know more...

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,


I ask the same question as Sister Shyhijabi. We do not have much mention of jinn possession in the Quran and not much in the hadeeths. It is always a reference but not Sunna or Quran. Am I correct.

 

[ditta]

Wa-alaykum-us-Salaam wa'Rahmatullaah,

I posted this in another post but here it is:

The Messenger did that more than once. It is narrated from Umm Abaan bint al-Waazi' ibn Zaari' ibn 'Aamir al-'Abdi, from her father, that her grandfather Al-Zaari' went to the Messenger of Allah , taking with him a son of his who was possessed, or a nephew (sister's son) of his.

"My grandfather said: when I came to the Messenger of Allah I said,

'I have with me a son of mine - or a nephew of mine - who is possessed. I have brought him to you so pray for him.'

He said,

'Bring him to me.'

So I went to him, and he was still sitting on his riding-animal. I lifted him down and removed his travelling clothes and dressed him in two fine garments, then I took him by the hand and brought him to the Messenger of Allah .

He said,

'Bring him closer to me, and turn his back towards me.'

He grabbed him by his clothes, top and bottom, and started to hit his back, (raising his arm) so high that I saw the whiteness of his armpits, saying,

'Get out, enemy of Allah; get out, enemy of Allah!'

Afterwards, the boy's eyes looked normal, not as they had looked before. Then the Messenger of Allah sat him down in front of him, and prayed for him there was no one in the delegration who was better than him."

This is narrated by At-Tabaraani.

(Majma' al-Zawaa'id, 9/2. Al-Haythami said concerning it: No one narrated from Umm Abaan except Matar. Al-Haythami narrated the hadith from Ahmad in his Musnad in a shorter version than that narrated by At-Tabaarani. He said, its isnaad includes Hind bint al-Waazi', whom I do not know, but the rest of its men are thiqaat (trustworthy)).

In Al-Musnad it is also narrated that Ya'laa ibn Murrah said:

"I saw three things from the Messenger of Allah that no one had seen before me and no one saw after me.

I went on a journey with him, and as we were travelling on one of the roads, we passed by a woman who was sitting with a child of hers. She said,

'O' Messenger of Allah, this child is suffering and we are suffering because of that. He is overpowered (by the jinn) I don't know how many times each day.'

He said,

'Give him to me.'

She lifted him up to him, and put him in front of him on the saddle, then he opened his mouth and blew into it three times, and said:

'In the name of Allah, I am the slave of Allah. Begone O' enemy of Allah!'

Then he gave him back to her and said,

'Meet us in the same place when we are coming back, and tell us what happens.'

We went, then we came back, and we found her in that place, and she had three sheep with her.

He said,

'How is your son?'

She said,

'By the One who sent you with the truth, we have not noticed anything with him until now. Take these sheep as a gift.'

He said (to me),

'Get down and take one from her, and give the others back.'"

(Narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad, 4/170. Al-Daarimi (1/15, no. 17) also narrated a similar version of this story from Jaabir)

(The World of the Jinn and Devils)

It is narrated that 'Uthmaan ibn Abi'l-'Aas (radhiyAllaahu anh) said:

"When the Messenger of Allah appointed me as governor of Al-Taa'if, I started to experience problems in my prayer, such that I did not know what I was doing in my prayer. When I noticed that, I went to the Messenger of Allah .

He said,

'The son of Abi'l-'Aas?'

I said,

'Yes, O' Messenger of Allah.'

He said,

'What brings you here?'

I said,

'O' Messenger of Allah, I am experiencing problems with my prayers, so that I do not know what I am doing in my prayer.'

He said,

'That is the Shaytaan. Come closer.'

So I came closer to him and squatted. He tapped me on the chest three times with his hand and blew in my mouth, and said,

'Get out, enemy of Allah!'

He did that three times, then he said,

'Go and get on with your work.'"

(Saheeh Sunan ibn Maajah, 2/273, no. 2858)

If the one who is possessed suffers and cannot find any cure for his problem, and he bears that with patience, then he will have a great reward with Allah. In Saheeh al-Bukhari it is narrated that 'Ataa' ibn Abi Rabaah said:

Ibn Abbaas said to me,

'Shall I not tell you about one of the women of Paradise'

I said,

'Yes'.

He said,

'This black woman came to the Prophet and said,

'I suffer from seizures and I become uncovered; pray to Allah for me.'

He said,

'If you wish you may bear it with patience and Paradise will be yours, or if you wish I will pray to Allah to heal you.'

She said,

'I will be patient.'

Then she said,

'But I become uncovered; pray to Allah that I will not be uncovered.'

So he prayed for her."

Muhammad narrated to us that Mukhallad told us from Ibn Jurayj (who said) 'Ataa' told me that he saw Umm Zafar, that tall black woman, clinging to the curtain of the Ka'bah. (Saheeh al-Bukhari, 10/114, no. 5652) Ibn Hajar mentioned that this woman said:

"I am afraid that this evil one (i.e., the devil who was possessing her) may cause me to become uncovered."

The Messenger expelled jinn by means of commands, prohibitions and curses, but these are not enough on their own. Strength of faith, certainty of belief and a good relationship with Allah also play major role in that, as will be clear from the following report:

It is narrated that Imam Ahmad was sitting in his mosque, when a companion of his came to him from the khaleefah Al-Mutawakkil, and said,

"In the house of the Ameer al-Mu'mineen there is a slave woman who is possessed. I have been sent to you so that you may pray to Allah to heal her."

Imam Ahmad gave him a pair of wooden slippers and said to him,

"Go to the house of the Ameer al-Mu'mineen, and sit by the woman's head, and say to the jinni,

'Ahmad says to you, which would you like better, to leave the woman or to be struck with these slippers seventy times?'

The man went to the slave woman with the slippers and sat by her head, and repeated what Imam Ahmad had told him to say.

The maarid (jinni) said, speaking through the woman's lips,

'Ahmad is to be heard and obeyed. If he told us to leave Iraq we would do so, because he obeys Allah, and whoever obeys Allah, everything will obey him.'

Then he left the slave woman, and she calmed down and later bore children.

When Imaam Ahmad died, the maarid came back to her. The ruler asked one of the companions of Ahmad to pray for her. He came, bringing those shoes with him, and said.

'Come out, or I will hit you with these shoes.'

The maarid said:

'I will not obey you and I will not come out, but Ahmad ibn Hanbal obeyed Allah, so we were instructed to obey him.'"

(The World of the Jinn and Devils by Umar al-Ashqar)

Ibn Taymiyah (rahimahullaah) said: (Majmoo' Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam):

"The fact that the jinn may enter the human body is well established according to the consensus of the imaams of Ahl as-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah.

Allah (subhaanahu wa ta'aala) says:

'Those who eat Ribaa will not stand (on the Day of Resurrection) except like the standing of a person beaten by Shaytaan (Satan) leading him to insanity.'

(Qur'aan, 2: 275)

Bukhaari narrated that the Prophet said:

'Shaytaan flows through man's veins like blood.'

(Bukhaari, 6/336, no. 3281; Muslim, 4/1712, no. 2175)

Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal said:

'I said to my father, some people say that the jinn does not enter the body of the possessed.

He said,

O' my son, they are lying, and the jinn speaks through the mouth of that person.'"

Ibn Taymiyah also said:

"What he said is well known, for he (the jinn) causes a man to have a fit, then he speaks in a foreign language that he does not know; mighty blows may be delivered to him, which would fell a camel, but despite that the person who is suffering the fit does not feel the blows and is unaware of the words he is speaking. The possessed person may be dragged, along with other people and the carpet on which he is sitting, and furniture may be moved about, and other things may take place. Whoever witnesses such things will realise that the one who is speaking on the lips of a human and who is moving these bodies, is of another nature that is not human."

And he said (rahimahullaah):

"There is no one among the imaams of the Muslims who denies that the jinn may enter the body of the one who is possessed and other. Whoever denies that and claims that Islam denies that, is telling lies against Islam. There is nothing in the evidence of Islam to deny that."

He mentioned that among those who denied that the jinn enter the body of the one who is possessed was a group among the Mu'tazilah such as Al-Jabaa'i and Abu Bakr ar-Raazi.

(Majmoo' Fataawa Shaykh al-Islam, 19/12)

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

Yes, I remembered the woman with the child sitting on the road....so it is Sunna.

It is in the Sunna so we better be aware..thank you brother...