“We will show you things worse than Guantanamo” Details about attack on Muslim sister for wearing B

[ilyas_eh]

Just like I said before, you didn't like this and claimed I was reading too much into it, but you confirm time and again it is exactly the case:



And as for this:



I would say such women should really make hijrah to a land where they can practise without hindrance. I know this isn't easy and perhaps even idealistic but even so, it is a solution, even if the country they are leaving happens to be where they originated from.

I can say that without feeling the need to demean them or make trivial their decisions to cover their faces, or shocklingly begin claiming they have dishonoured and insulted Muslim women (what on earth ..?), and all rest of the contents of your attack on niqabi women, know that this is your lone perception.

Wa-alaykum assalam.

Assalaamu alaykkum, in order to avoid aapa from hurting the feelings of hundreds of muslims who are already disturbed by what this poor sister has gone through, I ask you to move on and use the time for something beneficial in shaa Allah. Clearly she is 100 per cent right according to her own self and so there is no room for us to correct her anymore.

She should forgive that poor sister for not being "Muslim according to the laws of Belgium/US/UK" but being Muslim for the sake of Allah. However, on the second thought she is donning niqaab for the sake of pleasing Allah and not for another muslim woman to judge her and blame her after her trauma, so aapa's forgiveness isnt necessary after all. with Allah lies her reward.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam alaikum,

Why is everyone on this trip of hurt feelings. If the hundreds of Muslims are hurt it is because they have not taken the time to think. The sister choose her actions. Pleasing Allah subhana wa taala is not limited to wearing niqqab.

The sister can take up a civil suit.

The sister can wear hijab and please Allah as well as make it easy on the other Muslim women in Belgium. The sister caused much of the trauma. Apply a little common sense. Reread what I wrote. If you defy a law you can not have a pity party. If you defy a law and argue and attack the police you are not going to gain any favors.

So it is pleasing Allah for a Muslim woman to break laws in a land she lives in? It is pleasing to Allah that a woman in niqqab attacks a police officer? It is pleasing to Allah subhana wa taala that a Muslim woman humiliates other Believing women by her singular act of defiance making it harder for others to get jobs? Her singular act makes it more difficult for all Muslims in her land to move about freely?

Even the Prophet, swas, would hold council before action, in case you forgot.

The US has different issues.

 

[kashif_nazeer]

:salam2:
Back in the time women Muslims had gheerah,if someone insulted a muslim woman it was an act of war.
As back in Madinah when one some of the Jews dared to insult a muslim woman who went to their market ,they tied her clothes behind her when she sat,so that when she stood up her body was exposed and the Jews started laughing and making fun of her,when a muslim man saw this he took a sword and killed them and was killed by the Jewish people's family.
This incident almost caused a war.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam alaikum,

And in these times we have suicide bombers.

It is a matter of common sense. In a land that lets a Muslim know what they will and will not tolerate common sense tells you to act accordingly.

If everyone is so hurt and insulted why not start a fund to help this sister; why not bombard the embassies in your countries with letters; why not write to human rights organizations.

 

[kashif_nazeer]

It is a matter of common sense. In a land that lets a Muslim know what they will and will not tolerate common sense tells you to act accordingly.

If everyone is so hurt and insulted why not start a fund to help this sister; why not bombard the embassies in your countries with letters; why not write to human rights organizations.

That is exactly what we need to do,tell them that we wouldn't tolerate things like these.
We can do thing within our wus'at to help such sisters insha'Allah and that is a good idea indeed.We see muslims are being persecuted allover from Burma to Belgium,the only reason is that we are behaving like people when tatar invaded muslim lands,even if one tatar was unarmmed and there were about 6-7 muslims,he would tell them to wait until he brings his sword and kills them and muslims waited!
This is the dhillah of being impotent.Keeping hands upon hands sitting on our backsides instead of being proactive.I am equally guilty of this.

PS:Suicide bombing is haram according to many scholars and Allah knows best.

 

[sabs1164]

Assalaam alaikum,

I am still 100% correct.

:salam2:
how about trying to judge ourselves.

 

[Aapa]

Assaalaam alaikum,

Not to worry sister. There comes a point in ones life where you gain confidence. You put your entire trust in Allah subhana wa taala. You stand your ground in light of the Revelation. You consult with people of knowledge. You study your faith more seriously than anything else. You understand that letters behind your name are meaningless. You understand the need to polish your heart each moment. You have the courage to correct others. That is a right of age and wisdom.

So if you are implying indirectly that I am arrogant please be so kind as to say this. I questioned the motive of the sister. I questioned the wisdom behind her actions. The bottom line can be summed up easily. If you are taken and placed in the lion's den you are caught unaware. If you walk into the lion's den..you need to be aware that it will not be pretty. Think before you act.

The retaliation of this will be more scrutiny for Muslims. And more punitive laws. Think before you act. Islam has many prescriptions for thinking before acting.

It is reduced to intentions.

 

[Abd_Al_Hadi]

NO!

Your suggestion for us to be passive only empowers the oppressor. You don't want the youth to be firm and assertive. Instead you tell them to abide to BS laws and eat the crap enemies feed us. Your suggestions are dangerous to Islam and it was people like you who caused the Ummah to dissolve.


On top of that, your corny sarcasm really shows your true colors. You obviously lack empathy or even sympathy for Muslims--and that makes your submission to Allah questionable.

I strongly urge one of the female moderators to Skype Aapa. I really don't trust her. Its not hard for a Mossad agent to make a TTI account...I'm just saying.