hypocrisy of some religions

[nyerekareem]

:salam2:

something has been bothering me.... well where i live there aren't many halal restaurants/delis etc. so very often the delis or restaurants are ran by jews or hindus. i of course eat only the halal from those places. however, i do know kosher dietary laws, but i am offended when jewish owners serve and cook pork and shellfish products. these are haram things for them. they themselves don't eat what's non-kosher, but they have no problem serving it to us. my point is that if God made it haram for you, it is haram for everybody. the jews don't care if we break God's laws because we aren't the chosen ones, but they make sure they eat kosher. because of their ignorance, they think they wont be held accountable before God because we are filth in the eyes of God.

hindus don't eat meat or kill animals or even drink liquor, but very often they are the owners of most american liquor stores, have delis, and are the managers of burger kings and mcdonalds. yet they order their big macs without beef or eat vegetarian chalupas, while having no problem with serving us what is forbidden to them. there is such a thing as enabling someone to sin. but where is their conviction?

that's why i'm very impressed when i go to muslim places of businesses because they do their best to keep things halal. you will never go to a muslim deli and find haram meat, even though they know that not everyone in the area is a muslim. you'll never see a muslim own a *!*!*!*! vid shop and at the same time asks his wife to wear niqab.heck, a muslim wouldn't even own such kind of a place. why? because we know that if pork is haram for us we know it's haram for the world. if someone gave me a ham sandwich it would be haram for me to eat it, sell it, or even give it away because we would be enabling someone to disobey Allah swt. occasionally you'll get the muslim liquor store owner, but you know what? he is often shunned by other muslims, and usually embarassed when muslims find out about his store. there is no barakah in the haram business! so why don't these other guys care? they don't care because they are really exclusive religions. religions that don't have the intention to include all of mankind. that's what makes islam so special that it is a religion for mankind. no matter how hard you may try, no matter how much you believe judaism to be true, you can never really become a true jew. no matter how much you believe in hinduism, if you aren't born in the right family or if your skin is too dark you can never really be accepted. look at the churches, synagogues, and temples. you'll immediately notice that not every group of humanity is a congregant. but go to the masjid and you'll see faces from all over the globe. thank Allah swt for the beauty of islam.

 

[ShyHijabi]

Asalaam Alakum,

Some of your points I agree with, some I do not. As a former Jew I completely agree with the belief that Judaism is an exclusive religion. Some of the more liberal synogogues have really relaxed this but usually at the loss of other traditions. So in a way you aren't seeing "true" Judaism in the more liberal temples. For the record, Jews are not supposed to sell/handle pork. Are their hypocrits, definately, but there are hypocrits among us Muslims as well.

It is easy to judge another people, to point out their imperfections. But I find the accuser less than eager to turn that discernment on his/herself. The hypocrisy I've witness from the followers of every religion is staggering....Muslims being no exception. Racism and/or culturalism is alive and well among Muslims, even though the beloved Prophet (pbuh) and the Glorious Quran teach against such practices. I know of Mosques that contain mostly just one race....with the smattering of folks from dofferent races. Islam is beautiful, pristine...perfect.....we Muslim are not. I cannot tell you how many times I have spoken to other reverts who are treated spectacularly....right up until they try to marry a born-Muslim. Those same parents who beamed and prasied the revert suddenly close thier hearts and forbid their child to marry someone who wasn't "born Muslim." This is strictly forbidden in the Quran, but still we see it.

For now I believe we need to focus on the Ummah and what we can do to strengthen it. We need to help educate ourselves and our fellow Muslims on what Islam truly is.....and not what they have turned it into with "culture." We are in no postion to judge other peoples/faiths...especially when we still struggle everyday to be good Muslims. In the end only Allah is fit to judge them. Our prayers should be for forgiveness when it comes to our own shortcomings....and they are many,

Wasalaam.

~Sarah

 

[American Muslim]

Asalaam Alakum,



It is easy to judge another people, to point out their imperfections. But I find the accuser less than eager to turn that discernment on his/herself. The hypocrisy I've witness from the followers of every religion is staggering....Muslims being no exception. Racism and/or culturalism is alive and well among Muslims, even though the beloved Prophet (pbuh) and the Glorious Quran teach against such practices. I know of Mosques that contain mostly just one race....with the smattering of folks from dofferent races. Islam is beautiful, pristine...perfect.....we Muslim are not. I cannot tell you how many times I have spoken to other reverts who are treated spectacularly....right up until they try to marry a born-Muslim. Those same parents who beamed and prasied the revert suddenly close thier hearts and forbid their child to marry someone who wasn't "born Muslim." This is strictly forbidden in the Quran, but still we see it.



~Sarah

This is pretty much the way it is here in Chicago. We have many, many masjids, but they are fairly ethnically seperated. I work with a brother from Bosnia who told me that they were building a masjid for "Bosnian peoples" , after I told him the masjid I attend was mainly Pakistani.

And I do notice that sisters I am gently guided towards are either reverts themselves, or children of reverts.

Desiderius Erasmus wrote : Man's mind is formed that it is far more susceptible to falsehood than to truth.

Inshallah, one day we will overcome these problems.

 

[apocalypse77]

i wouldnt call it a hypocrisiy of the religion but the hypocrisy of the people who practise the religions..just liek there are muslims who claim to be muslims but they still dont pray, its just the same as a jew who dont practise dietry laws

and i think sometimes a muslim brother/sister's richness can be the reason why he end up having more sins.I mean when ure reach u can do what you want right?I mean theres nothing wrong with it but the thing is when ure reach and u go to foreign countries that dont sell halal food u still eat them.when u point out to them its haram they say "it isnt pork" ..ermm..i duno if u can get wat imt rying to say :s

 

[nyerekareem]

thanks for the responses. i think i should've said hypocrisy of followers instead. shyhijabi mentioned that it is hard for revert muslims to marry born muslims, i believe she is right, i don't think it's racism, but a fear of losing one's cultural identity. they think that if this black guy marries their pakistani daughter, the entire pakistani race is going to disappear. what will family say? what will people back home say? etc. it's foolish i know, but some people do that. there are so many people that mix their culture with islam and name that thing as islamic, which is a bad thing because non-muslims will associate those non islamic customs as islam. i pray that the problems of hypocrisy, racism and cultural differences disappear one day.

 

[kayleigh]

Overall your statements are true, but never say never. I know a Muslim man who's practicing - prays five times a day, goes to the masjid, fasts and pays zakah. But, he also owns a restaurant with a bar that obviously serves alcohol and doesn't use halal meat. His mother is also practicing, but she owns a wine import store.

 

[justoneofmillion]

Asalaam Alakum,

Some of your points I agree with, some I do not. As a former Jew I completely agree with the belief that Judaism is an exclusive religion. Some of the more liberal synogogues have really relaxed this but usually at the loss of other traditions. So in a way you aren't seeing "true" Judaism in the more liberal temples. For the record, Jews are not supposed to sell/handle pork. Are their hypocrits, definately, but there are hypocrits among us Muslims as well.

It is easy to judge another people, to point out their imperfections. But I find the accuser less than eager to turn that discernment on his/herself. The hypocrisy I've witness from the followers of every religion is staggering....Muslims being no exception. Racism and/or culturalism is alive and well among Muslims, even though the beloved Prophet (pbuh) and the Glorious Quran teach against such practices. I know of Mosques that contain mostly just one race....with the smattering of folks from dofferent races. Islam is beautiful, pristine...perfect.....we Muslim are not. I cannot tell you how many times I have spoken to other reverts who are treated spectacularly....right up until they try to marry a born-Muslim. Those same parents who beamed and prasied the revert suddenly close thier hearts and forbid their child to marry someone who wasn't "born Muslim." This is strictly forbidden in the Quran, but still we see it.

For now I believe we need to focus on the Ummah and what we can do to strengthen it. We need to help educate ourselves and our fellow Muslims on what Islam truly is.....and not what they have turned it into with "culture." We are in no postion to judge other peoples/faiths...especially when we still struggle everyday to be good Muslims. In the end only Allah is fit to judge them. Our prayers should be for forgiveness when it comes to our own shortcomings....and they are many,

Wasalaam.

~Sarah

i agree with you that being self critical and asking for ones own forgivness should be our main concerne however i have noticed in many mosq that i have been to people from every color cultural and ethnique background and i can tell you without anydoubt that of all the religions islam and muslims has been the most succeful concerning the race issue(cucux clan


















holocaust.....negritude..it was not muslims that created them.....),there where certainly short comings as you said islam is perfect but muslims are not!that`s why we pray and ask forgivness anyways,we are and we have no saints in islam holy is Allah swt not even the prophets pbut all are!! but you`ll also to admit that there are some other reasons than race in the marriage issue some people wanna become muslim just to marry the girl and then they don`t practice islam at all !i have noticed that too!!!!!!!and some wanna marry their children to someone they were promised too for stupid cultural reasons. so there is a sort of mistrust in there in a world were passions have overthrown any decency and people are folowing only their vain instincts!!!!!!!!!!!!!i think you should be sensitive and more selective in what you are saying !last time you said the same thing about christians !you don`t seem to understand your brothers and sisters because of your own cultural background too this is the other side of the belt!i( have myself both ethnic backgrounds so i understand both)there is a high tension right now among the ummah and that tension brings a reactionary and self defensive attitude with it, that`s
human nature please try to understand the meaning behind the words, last time i was explaining a young brother who was confused about the trinity you came with your" white doves saying", that you understood how they worshiped that way!but that you didn`t agree with them this is repeating itself again on this topic !.of course islam is ready to meet every religion with respect ,but too much pluralism means also weakness it produces a narcotic effect which is not really needed right now(am not refering to this topic but the last one about "the error of beliving that someone dies for your sin" . absolute truth becomes tolerant only then when we don`t believe in it anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!(that`s the ideologie of secularism!)we could say ironicly. ..The prophets peace be upon them all had a militant spirit all of them and they were also militant with themselves so we should take them on both side as examples and not just the platonic side but i understand that as a sister you are more likely to be pacific that`s natural(no offence).wassalamu aleikum wa rahmatullah
rahmatullah

 

[ShyHijabi]

Asalaam Alakum,

Sigh, brother JustOne, I either explain my self poorly or you do not comprehend what I am trying to portray, the problem is most likely on my end.
I do not see how critisizing another person's beliefs is constructive to the Ummah. Furthermore we need to be cautious about who we call "hypocrits" as we Muslims struggle with this in our own mist.


You state that my cultural background clouds my view of my brothers and sisters. I think that my cultural background gives me a bit more insight to my brothers and sisters. See I know how being raised within a specific culture can make people think that anyone else that isn't exactly like them are somehow beneath them. We have been favored by Allah...we are not Muslims for any other reason than the fact that Allah chose us. To feel you are superior to people of other beliefs is a dangerous thing. We are not superior....it is Islam that is superior...not one human superior over another.

As far as the passive vs. militant I think it should be noted that the Blessed Prophet (pbuh) did not punish or ridicule Christianity or Judaism...maybe we should try to practice this Sunnah as well? If we truly want to influence the other religions....if we want to draw people to Islam, what better way to do it then by being the best Muslims humanly possible?
Wasalaam

~Sarah

 

[Mohsin]

Assalamu-alaikum

:salam2:

My humble request to all who are BORN MUSLIMS​

I agree completely with sister Sarah that rather than being worried about ourselves we always try to find faults in others.( I, myself being one of them ) I wanna share a small talk i had with one of Botany professors who also is a Principal at a Medical College.

We were discussing the reasos of the fall of Ummah and we discussed many factors but the one that really struck me was this, he told me that everyone wants others to be perfect and to follow the deen completely which is something out of his/her reach. The problem is that we do not try to do what is in our reach i.e. TO PRACTICE OUR DEEN OURSELVES. This is something we all can do and we only will be questioned about it.

Another thing that I really feel and feel down about it as well is that Allah SWT has made us Muslims and has made us a link between Him and his creation. We are supposed to spread this message that Allah SWT has given us. Our purpose here is bring ease and peace but we are doing almost opposite. How can we think negatively about others when we never cared enough to follow our deen ourselves nor we thought about telling them the truth rather we feel proud about being born as a Muslim. Here i am quoting few verses which i hope will make clear what i want to say. Allah SWT says i the Quran,

Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over you (Al-Baqarah)

And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, (with sincerity and under discipline). He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Abraham. It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer, give regular Charity, and hold fast to Allah! He is your Protector - the Best to protect and the Best to help! (Al-Ambiya)

Most certainly then We will question those to whom (the messengers) were sent, and most certainly We will also question the messengers; (Al-Aa'raaf)

How will it be, then, when We bring from every people a witness and bring you (Muhammad SAW) as a witness against these? (An-Nisa)

The last verse that i quoted, if we will read commentary on this one then we will find that some scholars in thier TAFSEER has metioned that once Rasul-Allah SAW asked Abdullah-ibn-Masud RA to recite Quran to him and he recited and when he reached this verse

How will it be, then, when We bring from every people a witness and bring you as a witness against these?

Rasul-Allah started crying and said 'I will be called against you, my own people, on the day of Judgement.' (Aw kama qaal)

We already know that Allah SWT has mentioned About Isa AS as it was also mentioned in the Gospel of Matthew that how he will refute and reject people who have gone against the will of Allah SWT. So i just want to request all of us to ponder upon our deeds and to ponder upon our responsibilities that Allah SWT has given us.

And i seek my sincere appologies in advance if what i said might hurt any of my brothers or sisters. May Allah make me the first to follow his deen as it is meant to be and forgive me my sins and keep guiding me to the Siraat-e-Mustaqeem, for I need Allah's guidence more than anything else.

Ma'assalam

 

[justoneofmillion]

Asalaam Alakum,

Sigh, brother JustOne, I either explain my self poorly or you do not comprehend what I am trying to portray, the problem is most likely on my end.
I do not see how critisizing another person's beliefs is constructive to the Ummah. Furthermore we need to be cautious about who we call "hypocrits" as we Muslims struggle with this in our own mist.


You state that my cultural background clouds my view of my brothers and sisters. I think that my cultural background gives me a bit more insight to my brothers and sisters. See I know how being raised within a specific culture can make people think that anyone else that isn't exactly like them are somehow beneath them. We have been favored by Allah...we are not Muslims for any other reason than the fact that Allah chose us. To feel you are superior to people of other beliefs is a dangerous thing. We are not superior....it is Islam that is superior...not one human superior over another.

As far as the passive vs. militant I think it should be noted that the Blessed Prophet (pbuh) did not punish or ridicule Christianity or Judaism...maybe we should try to practice this Sunnah as well? If we truly want to influence the other religions....if we want to draw people to Islam, what better way to do it then by being the best Muslims humanly possible?
Wasalaam

~Sarah

i said that your cultural background might affect your capacity of perception not your view only about certain issues i didn`t mean to hurt! but you have to see the big picture here i think with everything that`s going on in irak , palestine ,chechenya,afganistan or guantanamo , with all the distruction and harm the intellectual and fisical torture and manipulation in (every aspect of the word) that colonisation has brought in some muslim countries , all this has left stains that become visible today for example in the marriage issue! i don`t think it has any racist basis(nation of islam style if you know what i mean)i can undrestand it as i have both cultural backgrounds and i can tell you that my mother(rahimahllah`) being german revert took islam to heart more than any born muslimwoman i have ever seen!!but that`s not the point.concerning the the dialogue between religions ,speaking the truth in a polite and friendly way doesn`t mean avoiding to say things that may seem crude! am sorry it is not about rediculising ones believe which would be contradictory to islams teachings but, about a sincere and not artificial dialogue.don`t let me be missunderstood am ready to learn from anybody that shows knowledge that matches with the quran and sunna even from a child there is there never have been and there will never be any exclusivity in islam for anybody,including those who may call themselves "born muslims" it is not a birth certificat otherwise we would be reading the talmud not the quran!wassalam aleikum wa rahmatulah wa barakatuh



ps:last time i had said that the shytan might come to one with the biggest smile and seem harmless to turn one away from their own religionas a test (fitna) like the christian missionaries do in times of war in iraq and afghanistan for examples i did not say that they worshiped the shytan and there you missenderstood me. and i kinda felt sorry for that
read my`post again it`s on "the error of beliving that one dies for your sin"


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