Mega Mosque In London

[Min-Fadhli-Rabii]

As Salaamu alaykunna wa Rahmatullaahi wa Barakatuh

Beloved brothers and sisters - We pray that you are all in good health and enjoying the highest levels of Eemaan Ameen.


Please go on the following link and sign the petition for the building of the £100 million mega mosque in London. Currently there is another petition being signed which opposes the plan and it already has nearly fifty thousand signatures on it.
Please forward this mail to as many people as you can.
Jazakallah


http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/buildmosque




http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/buildmosque

 

[alkathiri]

But u have to be a british citizen..

 

[Globalpeace]

Is it needed?

Asslamo Allaikum,

With the greatest respect.

Post 9/11 & 7/7;do we need Mega-Projects like these?

 

[Libinette]

Alhamdoulilah, i signed it

 

[alkathiri]

Asslamo Allaikum,

With the greatest respect.

Post 9/11 & 7/7;do we need Mega-Projects like these?

Yes, the muslim community is growing.And what has it got to do with 9/11 or 7/7?

do u know how many of British citizen were against the war on iraq..
About 1 million went to protest, right?

 

[Globalpeace]

Asslamo Allaikum Brother,

You know that I am not against establishing Mosques or any other Islamic facilities.

But building a 17 acre; 70,000 people prayer facility?

I have NOT been to any Mosque in London for any prayer apart for Jumuah with more then 500 people praying MAX!

Consider the numbers in Bold, seriously.

I am NOT a tableeghi by any stretch of imagination but I like to keep track of what’s happening, why & where!

The following should not be twisted into my opinion of Tableeghi Jamaat; it’s just my subjective analysis of the situation ONLY and I am liable to error in calculating things…

This is going to be the new London Tableeghi Jamaat Markaz. The current London Tableeghi Markaz is in East London which was purchased and built less then 5-6 years ago! Before that the Markaz was a small place in East London. The newest Markaz has slight parking problems but that’s about it. There are neither short of space nor short for Jamaat activities

The current Tableeghi Markaz of UK is at Dewsbury & already holds thousands and I believe is the largest Mosque in Europe.

The current Dewsbury Markaz has prayer facilities, Jamaat facilities and a Madrasah!

1) There is no way that the Madrasah will MOVE to London!

2) There is no way that the Jamaat distribution will MOVE to London!

Both 1 & 2 were done by the express Mushwara of late Ameer of Tableeghi Jamaat; Maulana Inamul Hasan (RA)…

It was decided in 1984 in Nizamuddin, Delhi under the Ameership of Maulana Inamul Hasan (RA) that NO NEW MARAKAZ will be built anywhere!

Special permission for the current Markaz of London was given because the problem existed for years….

So I would like to honestly ASK from Tableeghi Jamaat brothers/sisters; what is this structure for? And WHO in Nizamuddin (New Delhi) or Raiwind (Pakistan) has approved it? And in which Mushwara?

I am again reiterating and hoping that my words will not be twisted; I am simply asking some very valid questions; which have been in my mind (& others) for a while;

We as Muslims in UK are bing asked to support a project which we are unusre of; I hope that asking questions is not a crime.

P.S:AlKathiri! Don't ask for my sources...I can absolutely assure you that I don't go in Jamaat & I don't attend the Mushwaras.

Yes, the muslim community is growing.And what has it got to do with 9/11 or 7/7?

do u know how many of British citizen were against the war on iraq..
About 1 million went to protest, right?

 

[amyaishazouaoui]

:salam2:

I know im a pessimist (spelling), but 70,000 muskims, one place, big gates, big lock, lock in ..............

Or big mosque, lots of people, one crazy imam and friends, place goes lala ( finsbury like!!!!)

can the money not be used beter elsewhere in the ummah........ support for schools etc????

 

[Globalpeace]

Fatwa of Principle of Darul-uloom Deoband on Mosques in UK!

Asslamo Allaikum,

I have been reliably informed that Shaykh Asad Madani (RA) [principle of Darul-uloom Deoband, India] who died last year; gave a talk at Stamford Hill (Stoke Newignton, London);which is incidentally the largest Jamaat sending Mosque in the world (%age of Muslims wise) that:


“Muslims in UK should spend their money on Islamic Schools!” Why do you have such gigantic Mosques, convert Mosques like these i.e. Stamford Hill (Stoke Newignton, London) into Schools and save your future generations and if you need a Fatwa…I give it you; HERE & NOW!

So I am asking questions based on some very SOLID facts; because I am not too sharp and I don't get the point.

 

[junaid hasan]

Asslamo Allaikum,

I have been reliably informed that Shaykh Asad Madani (RA) [principle of Darul-uloom Deoband, India] who died last year; gave a talk at Stamford Hill (Stoke Newignton, London);which is incidentally the largest Jamaat sending Mosque in the world (%age of Muslims wise) that:


“Muslims in UK should spend their money on Islamic Schools!” Why do you have such gigantic Mosques, convert Mosques like these i.e. Stamford Hill (Stoke Newignton, London) into Schools and save your future generations and if you need a Fatwa…I give it you; HERE & NOW!

So I am asking questions based on some very SOLID facts; because I am not too sharp and I don't get the point.

brother thanks for your effort.

i think if you are a little bit worried about this topic hope its will be better to go in dewsbury and ask the peoples who has responcibilty on this topics.

as a student of islam its a little bit tough to discuss with a non-islam about islam, its also same like that.

to know better about their intention we should ask them and if we have any opinion like sister amy gave we can also tell them face to face.

allah knows the best.

 

[umm hussain]

Walaikum salam warahmatullah

Call me pessimist but why on earth would a government that opposes everything Islamic calling us 'extremist', 'wahabi', fundamentalist want to build a mosque. I am sure it is more for the secular and moderate muslims the more to spread their views at the expense of our deen. Why be so extravagant, attracting people to their ideology.

Build schools and I mean proper Islamic schools like brother GP mentioned but then again if the government builds the schools they expect you to teach what they want. Let them keep their money and inshallah one day we will have good schools inshallah

 

[junaid hasan]

Walaikum salam warahmatullah

Call me pessimist but why on earth would a government that opposes everything Islamic calling us 'extremist', 'wahabi', fundamentalist want to build a mosque. I am sure it is more for the secular and moderate muslims the more to spread their views at the expense of our deen. Why be so extravagant, attracting people to their ideology.

Build schools and I mean proper Islamic schools like brother GP mentioned but then again if the government builds the schools they expect you to teach what they want. Let them keep their money and inshallah one day we will have good schools inshallah

sister there are 100 of olama´s from ahle sunnah waal jammat working behind this project as long as i know.

and the meaning of word * extravagant* they know better then us.
its look like a extravagant but we dont know aboout their intention and about their future plan.

we should not give a opinion in advance without being sure about that.

if we are really worried about this and we want to something good on favour of islam then we can talk with them or give them advice how to use such a big amout of money for islam, whos are behind in this project.

and allah knows the best.

 

[br_rizwan]

Asalamu Alaykum,

Every one has it own opinion. which show diversity in this post with diffrent opinion..but is anything wrong with this act. It our pleasure to have such a mosque in London..

I am totally support of it..

 

[junaid hasan]

brother i wish if we had a such nice project to have a big mosque in germany.

i missed a lot to pray in such big mosques.

there only a few normal mosques in germany.
hope allah will help us to have big mosques in germany

 

[Globalpeace]

Asslamo Allaikum Bhai,

Jazakullah Khairun for not misunderstanding my intentions!

As far as taking it to Dewsbury and the Elders; people way higher then me (in the food chain) have taken it to Hafiz Patel Saheb...& made their disagreements very clear...

He stared me down in Masjidun-Nabawi so I went and shook hands with him and he asked:

1) Do I know you? Me: Not really
2) Me: Make dua for me & I ran like hell BEFORE I got sent 40 days!

I was praying in a Masjid (in another town) the other day and he (Hafiz Patel Saheb) caught me at the door and he was staring at me; you know how he stares you down (Scary stuff)...He has got photographic memory

I changed doors and went out from the other one...



Fatwas, Fatwas, & more Fatwas & then I have my own personal views on Jamaat

brother thanks for your effort.

i think if you are a little bit worried about this topic hope its will be better to go in dewsbury and ask the peoples who has responcibilty on this topics.

as a student of islam its a little bit tough to discuss with a non-islam about islam, its also same like that.

to know better about their intention we should ask them and if we have any opinion like sister amy gave we can also tell them face to face.

allah knows the best.

 

[wannabe_muttaqi]

ASAK

ASAK,
In my opinion, Instead of spending 100million pounds on a masjid there are many muslim nations who are living in a horrible conditions below poverty, spend it on them. A question which needs honest answer is Does this masjid with a capacity of 70 thousand will ever have atleast 5 thousand people in their fajar jamaa', this masjid with a huge capacity of 70 thousand is only for Jumaa' i guess, but rest of the week, it is only for couple or few hundreds of people.

i would like everyone to be pragmatic in this issue. how many People from london and its suburbs can pray in that masjid regularly? forget Dhuhr, Asr and Maghrib as they will be at work, how many do you think will pray Fajar and Isha in that masjid? do you really believe there will be thousands of people in that masjid? Is this masjid located such a way that it is closer to all suburbs?

What really is required for our UMMAH right now is education (both Deen and Dunya) and for which we need good ISLAMIC schools. I personally do emphasise on schools because there are lot of countries in which muslims do not know the difference in culture and religion. their culture is embedded in their religion such a way that they get offended when someone points out that there is no such thing in ISLAM.

when i first heared of this only thing that crossed my mind was that with money we can defintely build a good , grandeur masjid but can we get khushu in our salat?

 

[suumaya]

Asalamu alaikum
I am not against building a Mazjid but i think alot of our brothers and sisters are Dieing for hunger and luck of clean water, shouldn't that money be given to them?

 

[Globalpeace]

Education, Education, Education

Asslamo Allaikum,

Education for Muslim children is already set as the top-most prioriy for Muslims in the west...

Scholars disagree on many things but I don't know ANY Sunni scholar who disagrees with giving Islamic education to Children and doesn't regard this as Numero Uno!

 

[Globalpeace]

Alternative view!

Asslamo Allaikum,

We have all put in our opinions and I hope that I have given some background information on the subject;

Here is the alternative view...

http://www.islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=1293&

 

[junaid hasan]

ASAK,
In my opinion, Instead of spending 100million pounds on a masjid there are many muslim nations who are living in a horrible conditions below poverty, spend it on them. A question which needs honest answer is Does this masjid with a capacity of 70 thousand will ever have atleast 5 thousand people in their fajar jamaa', this masjid with a huge capacity of 70 thousand is only for Jumaa' i guess, but rest of the week, it is only for couple or few hundreds of people.

brother its just depend the activity of the muslims who lived near this area.For example near raiwend there are a few population but every day come thousends of people together for learn something. the situation of markaz of dhaka is also same. its was built near a park , there are no apartment or flat. but you will find 1000 of brother who are there to pray fajar salat.Most of mosques of germany has may be For example 10 line in a mosque but during FAjr, johor, and asr prayer only 1 line is also not full.Does it mean we should buy a room of 1 line where only a few people get together for prayer? Most of the mosque is full only jummah prayer , sadly this ummah think dawah in only for non-muslim and not for muslims. alhamdulillah every year 1000 of english people turn to islam and join in the mosques.
but its not so easy to open 100 of mosquess every year.

i would like everyone to be pragmatic in this issue. how many People from london and its suburbs can pray in that masjid regularly? forget Dhuhr, Asr and Maghrib as they will be at work, how many do you think will pray Fajar and Isha in that masjid? do you really believe there will be thousands of people in that masjid? Is this masjid located such a way that it is closer to all suburbs?

brother we hope that one day will come in europe when every workers will leave their office to pray their salat with jamat ina mosque inshallah.

What really is required for our UMMAH right now is education (both Deen and Dunya) and for which we need good ISLAMIC schools. I personally do emphasise on schools because there are lot of countries in which muslims do not know the difference in culture and religion. their culture is embedded in their religion such a way that they get offended when someone points out that there is no such thing in ISLAM.

brother alhamdulillah that they are spending some money to build a mosque but there are thousend of sheikhs in arab region who spend their money here and there like just using water.we are not worried about those sheikhs or not showing some activities against them.

when i first heared of this only thing that crossed my mind was that with money we can defintely build a good , grandeur masjid but can we get khushu in our salat?

as we know money can´t bring khushu in our life only efforts can bring khushu in our salat. ANd this mosque topics doesn´t have something to do with khushu in salat topics.

 

[junaid hasan]

Asalamu alaikum
I am not against building a Mazjid but i think alot of our brothers and sisters are Dieing for hunger and luck of clean water, shouldn't that money be given to them?

why this quetion didn´t arise when i am wasting my money to buy new cloths or by arranging marriege ceremony with a new , big decoration or why the sheikhs waste 1000 kilo of foods every day in arab region or when they are buying eagles from germany for their hobbys.

As we know all this things are now a days need for poor muslim countries.

shouldn´t we spend so much money as we able to give and also help those peoples who are doing something for islam in different way?