Afghanistan flooded by Christian missionaries

[junaid hasan]

:angryred:

After the US and NATO invasion of Afghanistan, a wave of Christian missionaries poured to the country.

In support of Bush's words about the so-called "war on terrorism" - is in fact a war against Islam, missionaries and the occupation troops operate synchronously and fully coordinate their actions.



The purpose of the troops is destruction, physical violence, provoking poverty, hunger, devastation.



The purpose of missionaries is recruitment of poor and strangulated by massive violence, hunger and devastation Muslims to Christianity.



The Afghan puppet ulema (scholars) warned West-backed puppet president Hamid Karzai over growing Christian proselytizing by foreign aid groups in Afghanistan.

"If he fails to listen to the ulema, people will further distance themselves from the government (and) there will be more pessimism and instability," Ahmad Ali Jebrayeli, a member of Afghanistan's so-called "Islamic Council" told Reuters.

Jerbayeli, quoting reliable sources, said many unnamed Christian missionaries had opened offices in the capital across the country to Christianize Afghans.

"Some NGOs are encouraging them (to convert), give them books (Bibles) and promise to send them abroad."

During a meeting on Friday, the council said foreign aid groups were freely proselytizing in the country.

"The council is concerned about the activities of some ... missionary and atheistic organs and considers such acts against Islamic Shari`ah (law), the constitution, and political stability," said a copy of the statement obtained by Reuters.

"If not prevented, God forbid, catastrophe will emerge, which will not only destabilize the country, but the region and the world."

Some 23 South Korean Christian volunteers working for Saemmul Presbyterian Church in Seoul were captured by Taliban last year for proselytizing.

Two male hostages were killed by Taliban after the Kabul government refused to entertain its demands, including the release of 10 jailed Taliban leaders.

Taliban later released the remaining hostages following a complex secret deal.

http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/cont.../10/9241.shtml

 

[alkathiri]

:salam2:

:angryred::angryred::angryred:

Bad News....

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

The manhaj of the Christendom nations of past and present is that they enslave the masses of other races or run brutal campaigns of slaughter against them, usurping their recources for their own selfish desires. When they've done their dirty-work, they organise attemts to prostelyze the masses, and some 100 years later blame it on the Muslims.

Nothing new in this piece of news. History repeats itself doesn't it?

May Allaah shackle their efforts in every place, ameen.

 

[TheHumbleWun]

Salaam,

I'm not sure how old this new is, but it shouldn't be a surprise. 99% of Afghanistan is Muslim. It's no surprise that Christian missionaries are known to go to war torn countries and try to provide them (usually little kids) incentives (i.e.food, water, shelter, $$) for the price of conversion.

No wonder these missionaries are always caught and prisoned in Afghanistan by the Taliban. They are wasting their time. Rejecting Islam is like rejecting paradise. I hope Hamid Karzai kicks them out.

 

[dianek]

Well, here is where I think we need clarification. Not all missionaries set out to CONVERT the world to Christianity. Some just go out to provide relief for various causes. I have a friend from High School that travels between Tanzania, Ethiopa and other underpriviledged nations of Africa. She does it through a church program and is there simply to assist with food programs, educational programs, clothing projects.........she says that the Muslims she has met are WONDERFUL people and would not attempt to convert them. However, she says she does pray for their salvation everyday, because she loves them.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

Well, here is where I think we need clarification. Not all missionaries set out to CONVERT the world to Christianity. Some just go out to provide relief for various causes.

Then they in essence are relief workers and not missionaries.

I understand the point. But the providing of relief in of its self is an indirect invitation.

 

[dianek]

Then they in essence are relief workers and not missionaries.

I understand the point. But the providing of relief in of its self is an indirect invitation.

So then should one deduce that aid and relief from anyone but Islamic charities is unacceptable because it is an unspoken "invitation" to chrisitianity? I think that is ridiculous. If that is the mindset in the Islamic world then they should return all the relief items received to the "christian" kuffirs. Just seems so irrational doesn't it? Those christian relief workers may actually be those that the Qu'ran refers to as those among them who are righteous and will be rewarded by him. Am I wrong?

 

[Sakeena]

Asalam alaikum,

I don't know a lot about this, but may I say that the Christian missionaries do try to convert the people. After feeding them, building them houses, etc they do give them Bibles and try to tell them about Jesus (PBUH) and tell them about the "Savior" etc.

I don't think that Christians should go in the Middle East anymore if they seek to convert them. Nothing wrong with helping, but where are the Muslim missionaries?? WE should be helping our brothers and sisters over there for the sake of Allah (SWT) Inshallah!!!

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

So then should one deduce that aid and relief from anyone but Islamic charities is unacceptable because it is an unspoken "invitation" to chrisitianity? I think that is ridiculous. If that is the mindset in the Islamic world then they should return all the relief items received to the "christian" kuffirs. Just seems so irrational doesn't it? Those christian relief workers may actually be those that the Qu'ran refers to as those among them who are righteous and will be rewarded by him. Am I wrong?

Errm no that is not what I said. Sister I think you don't understand what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that even when you display good manners and show kindness you are in reality inviting someone. It's perfectly normal as they say, first impressions count.

Those who Allaah refers to are not those who are aware of Islaam and deny the message. Those whom Allaah is referring to is those sincere ones whom the message of Islaam hasn't reached, and those of the past who came before Muhammad, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, and after Jesus, `alayhi salaam.

 

[TheHumbleWun]

So then should one deduce that aid and relief from anyone but Islamic charities is unacceptable because it is an unspoken "invitation" to chrisitianity? I think that is ridiculous. If that is the mindset in the Islamic world then they should return all the relief items received to the "christian" kuffirs. Just seems so irrational doesn't it? Those christian relief workers may actually be those that the Qu'ran refers to as those among them who are righteous and will be rewarded by him. Am I wrong?

Salaam,

Only God knows their intentions, but their history should not be ignored.

Allahu alam (Allah knows best)

 

[justoneofmillion]

:salam2:well what a bunch of hypocrites and that puppet pope should better refrain from mentioning opportunism when referring to Islam people all over the world even priests and missionaries are leaving polytheism for Islam they will never wipe out the light of Allah and they should better pray for themselves and their pagan societies that they lost the control upon how desperate can some
Christians get subhanallah why don t they always refuse to debate Muslim scholars live on prime time world tv event for folks to see Deedat rahimahoullah Allah asked the pope for it no answer dr NAIK likewise no answer and then they say who spread their religion by the sword and do it at the same time with their
cult but again they will never wipe the light of allah swt out alone Europe is in need of 20 million mostly north African workers in the coming years for economic reasons as brother TariQ Ramadan said may Allah swt make all of them part time daiis at least lol

And remember this brother Tarik Ramadan because he is the only guy out there who is smart and tactful enough to conquer the west in the smoothest way there has been since a long time without them even realizing because he knows that qadr is on our side even if he does not mention it one can feel it if he truly listens beyond the words with a little understanding of world affairs

:salam2:
JAmeel

 

[junaid hasan]

Convert doesn´t means that the muslims changed their name and said openly i am a christian now. The activities which people have in church they start in school of childrens. I had seen a video where the afghani chlidren wear cap and singing a song about jesus(pbuh).

Convert doesn´t means the only teach bible, there are a lot of subjects which can they push in the life of afghanas like with an injection in a patient body´s.

Its the time to teach the culture to poor peoples and attract to them. If people want to send relief then why such programs (with the sign of crusad, of other religion symbols). I need some time to search those videos and paste those here.

I think in this web were also someof them.

 

[nyerekareem]

:salam2:

sadly, many of them will convert, to keep from starving. the missionary practice is really deceitful because they use food and shelter as a means to soften people up to their religion. they know that people will choose them because they'll remain fed.

 

[Optimist]

They will fail

Muslims are vaccinated against Christianity ... all they need is basic Islamic knowledge.

On the hand, most Christians know very little about Islam and the church plays a big rule in spreading this ignorance (less so in modern times, previously they were spreading lies like: they worshipped the moon God and they are pagans .. etc).

This of course does not mean they will not have isolated successes ...

In the end, Allah (glorified He may be) guide who He wish.

 

[MOSABJA]

I would just like to say that the CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES deserve to be treated like the SOUTH KOREANS.I LOVE TALIBAN for what they did.

In Islam and Shariah it is not allowed for any one to convert from Muslim to any other religion.So there is also not allowed for any one to SPREAD CHRISTIANITY.

what christian missionaries are doing is that in the name of Charity they are spreading christianity.what they are doing is that they OPEN A SCHOOL for providing free education and there

THE INNOCENT CHILDREN WHO HAVENT EVEN REACHED THE AGE OF UNDERSTANDING ARE TAUGHT THAT CHRIST IS GOD:astag:

But Inshallah AFGHANS are the people who LOVE ISLAM MORE THAN ANYTHING.

They are the ones who did Jihad against Mughals just because they gave assylum to Ulemas who rose against Akbars DINEILLAHI(hybrid of hinduism and islam the source of bidahs in INDOPAK)

they are the ones who stood behind SYED AHMED SHAHEED who corrected the BIDAHS of Afghans and did jihad against Sikhs.His Mausoleam remained intact even after earth quake of 8 october.

They took half of the Kashmiri from India which has saved pak from drout.
They defeated SOVIET.

They are fighting against USA.

They are the ones about which Prophet SA said that they would be supporters of MAHDI and from where BLACK FLAGS would come.

 

[meer suhail]

:salam2:

no surprise ,,,,,,,i always thought it to be war against islam ,,,,,,,,,used to call it another wave of crusades
but every passing days i get to get more clear picture of this

time to get into battle field and start dawah ,,,,,,,,,no way out ,
im getting my self equiped with knowledge ,,,,,,are u ready ??????? start reading ,,,,,,


The Glorious Qur'an says:

“Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them
in ways that are best and most gracious.” (Al-Qur'an 16:125)

irrespective whether the Muslims do the job or not, Allah has promised to make his Deen
(Al-Islam) prevail over all other ways of life and all other ‘isms’. Allah says in the Qur'an:

“It is He who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth to proclaim it
over all religion: and enough is Allah for a Witness.” (Al-Qur'an 48:28)



WE HAVE NOT SENT THEE (O MUHAMMAD) BUT TO THE WHOLE OF MANKIND.
AS A GIVER OF GLAD TIDINGS AND AS A WARNER,
BUT MOST OF MANKIND STILL DO NOT KNOW.Holy Quran 34:28 [memorize the text and the translation of this verse. If you are lackadaisical, we can only mourn your loss.]
And Most Certainly, Thou (O Muhammad) Are of most sublime And Exalted Character. Holy Quran 68:4


14:22. And Shaitân (Satan) will say when the matter has been decided: "Verily, Allâh promised you a promise of truth. And I too promised you, but I betrayed you. I had no authority over you except that I called you, and you responded to me. So blame me not, but blame yourselves. I cannot help you, nor can you help me. I deny your former act in associating me (Satan) as a partner with Allâh (by obeying me in the life of the world). Verily, there is a painful torment for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers)."

 

[junaid hasan]

I think as the christian countries allow us to give dawah(allthough their is no muslim missionary group) we can also allow them. But they should avoid their cheating tactics. If they want to spread their massage go ahead. But not with the mask of Help aid. Not with food and cloths.

If they want to give cloths and food then give but not same time a copy of bible or their teaching.

If they want to spread massage then not only to poor peoples with in right hand some food.

Have anybody seen when abdurrahman was sent to italy or other times that murtad had a bible always in his hand.

well if you accept muslim your family will kick out and you have to live like a poor man. But when you will accept other religion they will give their lands gree card( sir rushdi or other murtads)

No offen to anyone or anyones religion

 

[TheHumbleWun]

They are the ones about which Prophet SA said that they would be supporters of MAHDI and from where BLACK FLAGS would come.

In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, we are greatly pleased to receive your question, which shows the confidence you place in us. May Allah reward you abundantly for your interest in knowing the teachings of Islam.

There were many Hadiths narrated concerning Al-Mahdi, ranging between being fabricated, weak, sound, and authentic. However, the authentic Hadiths narrated in that respect are very few. Contemplating over such Hadiths, Muslim jurisprudents concluded what should be believed in that regard: that is, the emergence of Al-Mahdi is a fact that should not be denied; he will be born before the end of this life and will grow up to fill the earth with justice as it has been filled with oppression. This does not require Muslims to wait anxiously for the emergence of Al-Mahdi because his emergence will not abrogate any ruling in the Islamic Shari`ah.

Accordingly, he who neglects fulfilling his duties, on the ground that he is waiting for Al-Mahdi to follow in his footsteps, has deviated from the straight path that Muslims are to follow.

Responding to the question, the prominent Saudi scholar Sheikh Salman Ibn Fahd Al-`Udah, states the following:

"More than one hundred Hadiths were narrated about Al-Mahdi. Those Hadiths ranged between being fabricated, weak, sound, and authentic; the authentic ones are very few.

Of such Hadiths are the following:

1. `Ali Ibn Abi Talib quoted the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: “Al-Mahdi is one of us, the clan of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). Allah will reform him in one night.” (Reported by Imam Ahmad and Ibn Maqah).

2. There were three Hadiths narrated on the authority of Abu Sa`id Al-Kudri (may Allah be pleased with him). Such Hadiths were reported by Al-Hakim; and some of them were reported by Abu Dawud, At-Tirmidhi, Ibn Maqah, Imam Ahmad, and others. Of these Hadiths, At-Tirmidhi reported that the Prophet said: “Al-Mahdi is from my Ummah; he will be born and live to rule five or seven or nine years. (If) one goes to him and says: ‘Give me (a charity), he will fill one’s garment with what one needs.’”

3. Abu Dawud also reported a Hadith about Al-Mahdi that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “Al-Mahdi will be of my stock, and will have a broad forehead, a prominent nose. He will fill the earth with equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years.”

4. There is also the Hadith narrated by Thawban (may Allah be pleased with him) in which the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: “If you see the black banners emerging from Khurasan, seek to join their supporters even if creeping, because among them will be caliph Al-Mahdi.” That Hadith was reported by Al-Hakim and Ahmad. But the chains of narration of that hadith were all unauthentic, though some Hadith scholars rendered it sound in general.

Some people stated that the aforementioned Hadith is cited to support that Al-Mahdi will emerge from among the Abbasid State. That Hadith might be fabricated altogether or its words might be distorted so as to support the Abbasid State.

Added to the above, I would like to say that there are Hadiths reported about Al-Mahdi that are true in general, but most of them do not reach the degree of authenticity. It may be only one of these Hadiths that is regarded authentic. Moreover, it is only a few of them that are considered sound, while most of them are weak.

Many scholars tackled the subject of Al-Mahdi, among whom was Na`im Ibn Hamad. He wrote about Al-Mahdi in his book Al-Fitan. Although Na`im was an Imam of Sunnah, Ad-Darqatani, Adh-Dhahabi and Ibn Hajar mentioned that there were some weak and fabricated Hadiths reported by him.

Others who wrote about Al-Mahdi are Abu Na`im Al-Asfahani and Yusuf Ibn Yahyah As-Salami, whose book is named “`Uqad Ad-Durar. Ibn Khaldun also wrote about that subject in his well-known book Al-Muqaddimah. He stated: “It is known among the majority of Muslims that Al-Mahdi is a fact.” He further stated that the majority of scholars and Imams emphasized the Hadiths reported about Al-Mahdi in general, though many of these Hadiths were controversial.

There are also many recent scholars who believed in the truthfulness of the Hadiths reported about Al-Mahdi in general.

However, some scholars denied all the Hadiths reported in that regard. Of those scholars was Mujahid, who claimed that Al-Mahdi would be Jesus, Son of Mary. In that respect, Ibn Maqah and Al-Hakim reported a weak Hadith to the effect that Al-Mahdi would be Jesus, Son of Mary.

Among the recent scholars who believe the Hadiths about Al-Mahdi in general are Sheikh Muhammad Rashid Rida, Sheikh `Abdullah bin Zayd Aal-Mahmud, Muhammad Muhi Ad-Din `Abdul-Hamid and others.

Muslims who are of Ahl-us Sunnah (mainstream Muslims) believe that a man of the Prophet’s clan will be born before the end of this world and lead an ordinary life as any other one; he may commit mistakes and will need to be reformed like any other one. Then Allah will choose him to reunite the Muslims and guide them to the right path.

This is all what should be believed about Al-Mahdi. There is no religious text to the effect that it is a religious duty to wait anxiously for him. Moreover, Muslims should not believe anyone claiming that he is Al-Mahdi unless there is clear evidence to that effect, as many people have claimed to be so.

Thus, Muslims are required not to hasten to believe anyone claiming to be Al-Mahdi; they are to investigate and make sure of such a thing.

There is no ruling in the Islamic Shari`ah that has to do with the emergence of Al-Mahdi. That is to say, Muslims are not to delay fulfilling religious duties like the congregational prayers or Jihad or applying penalties prescribed in Shari`ah, etc., until Al-Mahdi comes and guides them in that respect. Muslims are to lead their lives normally — worship Allah, go to work, reform their society, learn, teach, etc., and if Al-Mahdi appears and they make sure that he is truthful, they are to follow him. This was the attitude of the Companions and those who truly followed in their footsteps."

Source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503546904

 

[taxhonesty]

Salaam,

I'm not sure how old this new is, but it shouldn't be a surprise. 99% of Afghanistan is Muslim. It's no surprise that Christian missionaries are known to go to war torn countries and try to provide them (usually little kids) incentives (i.e.food, water, shelter, $$) for the price of conversion.

No wonder these missionaries are always caught and prisoned in Afghanistan by the Taliban. They are wasting their time. Rejecting Islam is like rejecting paradise. I hope Hamid Karzai kicks them out.

Hamid Karzai is a CIA asset. I say he is a CIA asset because he is a former employee of UNOCAL oil company. UNOCAL is closely associated with CIA. One thing about Christian missionaries that a friend of mine told me was they are the only one's trying to sneak into North Korean. Everyone else is trying to get out. So yes those missionaries are utterly insane! In fact North Korea is such a closed country that intelligence agencies rely on information from information coming from the missionaries. As far as I am concerned you got to be pretty crazy or devoted to go proselytize for any religion in North Korea.



http://www.infowars.com/articles/se...before_911_leader_n_alliance_assassinated.htm

 

[TheHumbleWun]

Salaam,

Like many leaders, Hamid Karzai is a political puppet of the U.S. He really hasn't done much for Afghanistan. Everything has been stagnant since the occupation by the U.S.

Yeah and after the Korean War, there has been actually a steadily increase of Koreans reverting to Islam, specifically in South Korea. Afghans are very strong in their faith, in fact they held these Korean Christian missionaries as hostages and even tried to kill them for trying to spread their false beliefs and mischiefs -kudos.