bro im going to end it here i dont wana make more fuss about this i did my job i spread the knowledge its up to you to take it or not... I hope allah guides us all
Salam Alaikom
:salam2:
Wht do you make of this ya rafid kalaam Allah swt!
24:26 Bad women are for bad men and bad men are for bad women. Good women are for good men and good men are for good women
Do you insenuate that rasulullah was a bad man?
24:23 Surely those who accuse chaste believing women, unaware (of the evil), are cursed in this world and the hereafter, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Let us see now what shia scholar (not other than Grand Ayatolla al-Khui) said about such issue.
Abul Qasem al-Khui was asked and he answered:
لسؤال
ماهو حكم شرب حليب المرأة ، سواء كان الشارب زوجها ، أم شخصا آخر ؟
الفتوى
لا بأس بذلك في نفسه.
Q. What is a ruling upon man on drinking milk of woman, whether the one who drunk her husband or someone else?
A. Nothing wrong with that in itself
http://www.almohajery.com/hashemya62/f1/44food1.htm
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Let us first look at the translation of the Hadith mentioned in the Sahih of Imam Muslim and elsewhere:
Sayyida Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that Sahla bint Suhayl came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: O Messenger of Allah! I see on the face of Abu Hudhayfa (signs of dislike) on the entering of Salim, who is an ally, (into our house). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man.(Sahih Muslim, no: 1453)
Another version of this Hadith is as follows:
Sayyida Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) reports that Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i.e. the daughter of Suhayl and wife of Abu Hudhayfa) came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he has began to understand what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, think that Abu Hudhayfa feels uncomfortable with this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear.She returned and said: I have suckled him and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhayfa has disappeared. (Sahih Muslim)
Before coming to any sort of conclusion, we need to first understand the background and context of this incident. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Sahih Muslim:
Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Maqal ¦Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Quran Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers.� (Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be ones own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear� hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)� (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print)
The above clearly illustrates that Salim was adopted by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife Sahla. He had lived with them and was raised and brought up by them since childhood. However, Islam does not recognize legal adoption and an adopted child is not considered a real child, hence after reaching puberty, the rules of Hijab are applicable. It became very difficult for Salim to live with his adoptive mother due to this rule, thus the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) advised Sahla to make Salim drink her breast-milk, whereby the rules of Hijab would be lifted.
It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sad and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose ones nakedness (awra) in front of a non-Mahram adult, let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba. (See: Tabaqat Ibn Sad, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337)
This leaves us with the question whether is it allowed for an adult to drink breast-milk, and what implications would that hold?
It is a well-known and recognised fact amongst the majority of the Muslim jurists (fuqaha) that suckling is not permitted after two (or 2 and a half) years, neither does it affect the rules of Hijab and marriage. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) quite clearly mentioned this in one Hadith where he said: suckling is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period.(Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2504 & Sahih Muslim, no. 1455) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: Suckling (radhaa) does not prohibit (i.e. marriage) except which penetrates the intestines (m: meaning which serves as a nourishment for the child) from the breasts, and it is prior to weaning.� (Recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, no. 1152)
Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling and breastfeeding will only be considered (i.e. in effecting the rules of marriage and Hijab) if it takes place in the period designated for it, and it is of no significance after that period.
Thus, scholars mention that the permission given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Sahla to give her milk to Salim was a special dispensation and an isolated case, and it cannot be generalized. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states that all of the Prophets wives with the exception of Aisha (Allah be pleased with them all) considered this to be a special dispensation, and this is the view taken by the majority of early (salaf) and late (khalaf) scholars. They considered the Hadith to be specific with Salim and Sahla, and are of the opinion that it is not permitted for an adult to drink breast-milk. If an adult did drink breast-milk, it will be of no consequence with regards to marriage and the rules of Hijab. (See: al-Mufhim, 4/186-187 & Ila al-Sunan, 11/119)
Moreover, Umm Salama, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to say: All the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to Aisha (Allah be pleased with her): By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.(Sahih Muslim, no: 1454)
Thus, in conclusion, it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it.
And Allah knows best...
1.Would you allow mutaa for you mother or sister without feeling any sense of Izza now and you call us sons of.....call that A lie or a psychological pathology of attributing your own evils to others In the process of trying to get rid of them in an indirect fashion.So Less you become yourself some sort of psychological prostitute. I would suggest to you the direct alternative bow down to Allah swt alone. ,.Our Scolars may differ on certain issues alhamdulillah human beings just like the colors and the variety in nature do,None is infallibe besides Allah swt stop seeing everything behind the lens of Shirk.And no we won t legalize prostitution .And we don t differ on tawheed. that is what is gonna bring you into hell.Not what Abu Bakr ,Ali Ra,Umaar Al Farooq or Uthman ubnu Affan...etc did or did not do you are responsible for yourself alone wake up!
2.What does it bring to insult people who lived hundreds and hundreds of years ago beside of spreading free hate!Does swearing bring you closer to Allah swt or your daily deeds and worship.Did Allah swt tell you to curse the Sahaba and the wife of the prophet in your worship.Show the evidence in the Quraan for that.
3.What it this bidaa of beating yourselves up to blood who ordered you to do that!what kind of worship is that!The ignorant priests used to do that aswell flagelation.It is not from Islam.
.For now you are the little tiny sect of 10 percent that worship ayatollahs and believe them to be infallible.I am not here to judge you God will be sure of that.I don 't have much time now got to wake up early , but I will take care of you once I have bi idni llah.
For now ill just let your Grand Ayatollah refute you since you decided to open this cane of worms.
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