CIA helps NYPD Expand covert Ops in Muslim areas

JenGiove

Junior Member
:salam2:

Brothers and Sisters, I felt that it was important that this information be posted.

http://www.military.com/news/articl...ts-in-muslim-areas.html?ESRC=sm_todayinmil.nl

CIA Helps NYPD Expand Covert Ops in Muslim Areas

August 24, 2011
Associated Press|by Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman

NEW YORK - Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the New York Police Department has become one of the nation's most aggressive domestic intelligence agencies, targeting ethnic communities in ways that would run afoul of civil liberties rules if practiced by the federal government, an Associated Press investigation has found.


The operations have benefited from unprecedented help from the CIA, a partnership that has blurred the line between foreign and domestic spying.


The department has dispatched undercover officers, known as "rakers," into minority neighborhoods as part of a human mapping program, according to officials directly involved in the program. They've monitored daily life in bookstores, bars, cafes and nightclubs. Police have also used informants, known as "mosque crawlers," to monitor sermons, even when there's no evidence of wrongdoing.


Neither the city council, which finances the department, nor the federal government, which has given NYPD more than $1.6 billion since 9/11, is told exactly what's going on.



Many of these operations were built with help from the CIA, which is prohibited from spying on Americans but was instrumental in transforming the NYPD's intelligence unit.


A veteran CIA officer, while still on the agency's payroll, was the architect of the NYPD's intelligence programs. The CIA trained a police detective at the Farm, the agency's spy school in Virginia, then returned him to New York, where he put his new espionage skills to work inside the United States.


And just last month, the CIA sent a senior officer to work as a clandestine operative inside police headquarters.


The NYPD denied that it trolls ethnic neighborhoods and said it only follows leads. Police operations have disrupted terrorist plots and put several would-be killers in prison.


"The New York Police Department is doing everything it can to make sure there's not another 9/11 here and that more innocent New Yorkers are not killed by terrorists," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said. "And we have nothing to apologize for in that regard." AP's investigation is based on documents and interviews with more than 40 current and former New York Police Department and federal officials. Many were directly involved in planning and carrying out these secret operations for the department. Though most said the tactics were appropriate and made the city safer, many insisted on anonymity, because they were not authorized to speak with reporters about security matters.


In response to the story, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a leading Muslim civil rights organization, called on the Justice Department to investigate. The Justice Department had no immediate comment.
"This is potentially illegal what they're doing," said Gadeir Abbas, a staff attorney with the organization.


After the terrorist attacks, New York hired retired CIA official David Cohen to transform its intelligence division.


Among Cohen's earliest moves at the NYPD was asking for help from his old CIA colleagues. He needed someone who had access to the latest intelligence so the NYPD wouldn't have to rely on the FBI to dole out information.


CIA Director George Tenet dispatched Larry Sanchez, a respected CIA veteran, to New York while Sanchez was still on the CIA payroll, three former intelligence officials said. Sanchez directed and mentored officers, schooling them in the art of gathering information, officials said.
There had never been an arrangement like it, and some senior CIA officials soon began questioning whether Tenet was allowing Sanchez to operate on both sides of the wall that's supposed to keep the CIA out of the domestic intelligence business.


"It should not be a surprise to anyone that, after 9/11, the Central Intelligence Agency stepped up its cooperation with law enforcement on counterterrorism issues or that some of that increased cooperation was in New York, the site of ground zero," CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood said.


Cohen also persuaded a federal judge to loosen rules and allow police to open investigations before there's any indication a crime has been committed.


With that newfound authority, Cohen created a secret squad that would soon infiltrate Muslim neighborhoods, according to several current and former officials directly involved in the program.


The NYPD assigned undercover officers to monitor neighborhoods, looking for potential trouble. Using census data, police matched undercover officers to ethnic communities and instructed them to blend in, the officials said. They hung out in hookah bars and cafes, quietly observing the community around them.


The unit, which has been undisclosed until now, became known inside the department as the Demographic Unit, former police officials said.


"It's not a question of profiling. It's a question of going where the problem could arise," said Mordecai Dzikansky, a retired NYPD intelligence officer who said he was aware of the Demographic Unit. "And thank God we have the capability. We have the language capability and the ethnic officers. That's our hidden weapon."


Cohen said he wanted the squad to "rake the coals, looking for hot spots," former officials recalled. The undercover officers soon became known inside the department as rakers.


For years, detectives also used informants known as mosque crawlers to monitor weekly sermons and report what was said, several current and former officials directly involved in the informant program said. If FBI agents were to do that, they would be in violation of the Privacy Act, which prohibits the federal government from collecting intelligence on purely First Amendment activities.


Browne, the NYPD spokesman, flatly denied the accounts of mosque crawlers and rakers. He said the NYPD only uses undercover officers and informants to follow leads, not to target ethnic neighborhoods.


"We will go into a location, whether it's a mosque or a bookstore, if the lead warrants it, and at least establish whether there's something that requires more attention," Browne said.


Last month, the CIA deepened its ties to the NYPD. It sent one of its most senior spies to New York to work out of police headquarters, on the CIA payroll. He is a special assistant in the intelligence division but U.S. officials said he is not doing intelligence-gathering. His name remains classified.


"It's like starting the CIA over in the post-9/11 world," Cohen said in "Protecting the City," a laudatory 2009 book about the NYPD. "What would you do if you could begin it all over again? Hah. This is what you would do."

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Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Sister,

This is nothing new. We know they send the mosque crawlers into masjids. We are well aware of this. We know many masjids are wire-tapped or whatever the latest technology is.

I always say if you want to act like a proctologist be prepared for what comes out.
 

Wannabemuslim

Junior Member
The C.I.A is pointless, and overall overly agressive, they need to be more diplomatic to do anything good or just not exist you dont fix evil with more evil
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
Assalaam walaikum,

Sister,

This is nothing new. We know they send the mosque crawlers into masjids. We are well aware of this. We know many masjids are wire-tapped or whatever the latest technology is.

I always say if you want to act like a proctologist be prepared for what comes out.

:salam2:

Yeah, see this is what I was afraid of the first time I went to masjid. I was afraid that the brothers would think I was a Fed snooping around and scoping them out.

But the Feds wouldn't send me. They would have sent someone more sophisticated.
 

aisha16

Junior Member
:salam2:

Yeah, see this is what I was afraid of the first time I went to masjid. I was afraid that the brothers would think I was a Fed snooping around and scoping them out.

But the Feds wouldn't send me. They would have sent someone more sophisticated.

Lol. I know where you're coming from with that....

I remember a few years back there was this young white guy who converted to Islam back in my old city. He moved from another city to my own city at the time, after spending a lot of time raised around Somali's. He spoke a bit of the language and even lived with a Somali family for a while and was always attending the local masjid...but after a while TONS and I mean tons of people in the community suspected him of working for the FBI. I felt bad for him since he did not seem like he was "fake" at all.

But anyways this story isn't very suprising at all. I tend to suspect the worst at times especially when cops are involved or whatever. But I guess this is a heads up for some masjids...they are watching you...*so terrified*..just kidding
 

shaheeda35

strive4Jannah
:salam2:
This is not surprising at all. We were already being spied on but after 9/11 it just got worse and even more reason to do it. They pose as muslims and enter the masjid. Brothers AND Sisters. This is definitely an evil world we live in and we should know that "Big Brother" will be watching, but Allah will always be in Control!!
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
Lol. I know where you're coming from with that....

I remember a few years back there was this young white guy who converted to Islam back in my old city. He moved from another city to my own city at the time, after spending a lot of time raised around Somali's. He spoke a bit of the language and even lived with a Somali family for a while and was always attending the local masjid...but after a while TONS and I mean tons of people in the community suspected him of working for the FBI. I felt bad for him since he did not seem like he was "fake" at all.

But anyways this story isn't very suprising at all. I tend to suspect the worst at times especially when cops are involved or whatever. But I guess this is a heads up for some masjids...they are watching you...*so terrified*..just kidding


:salam2:

I actually mentioned this to the brothers when I first started going to masjid, and they told me not to worry about it. There are a couple of other white convert brothers that I have seen around.

So yeah, that should prove right there that I'm not FBI. Like I said, I'm not smooth enough to pull off a fake job like that.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

The female impostors get more information as they have access to the homes of Believers.

Anyhow..even the impostors learn about the beauty of Islam.
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
Assalaam walaikum,

The female impostors get more information as they have access to the homes of Believers.

Anyhow..even the impostors learn about the beauty of Islam.

:salam2:

It's funny that you say that. My journey first started when I wanted to read Qur'an and study Islam because I wanted to "know my enemy". I wanted to know how to refute Islam and combat Muslim extremists using their own book against them.

We all know how that turned out.
 

MohammedMaksudul

May Allah Forgive us
:salam2:

Talk about being spied and tracked and even taken into custody with out notification and tortured in a country with so called majority Muslim population. You would probably have more freedom of speech in the streets of UK, when talking about the US led conflicts than here. They even go further into taking down the names of those young individuals going for Fajr Salah to the masajid, subhan Allah how well the understand the importance of this salah.
 
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