Confusion ...

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:

I have this big confusion, so currently my beard is well its not full fist length, i have been feeling so bad, i know the real sunnah is fist length. But idk why like the way the things are, i fear something bad might happen, especially that i travel thru air alot and will be going to US soon, and i have Pak and Saudia visa on my passport just looking at that they cause alot of problems, im not sure what will happen with beard added to that, i have this fear and it just scares me, and then my family (all of them) especially my parents are really against me they fear something will happen to me.

But wat scares me more is dying and not having the beard and displeasing ALlah (swt), thats something its on my mind all the times, and all my friends keep telling me to grow the beard but i dont want to grow and the shave it ever ...

iim feeling a lil lost people have been giving me a mixed answered on this.
Has anyone experienced similar situation or got some advice???

JazakAllah khair
APpreciate it
take care

 

[slaveofAllah88]

any ideas or comments?

 

[Kakorot]

Leave your beard short the way it is, go to the US and then start growing it a fist length.

 

[Abu Talib]

Assalamu`alaykum

Are you going to the US first time?

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Assalamu`alaykum

Are you going to the US first time?

nope not the 1st time, i went many times but last time i was cross border from Canada (like i usually do) they saw those visa and they stopped me and after 3 hour of interrogation they didn't let me enter US and send me back to Canada

 

[slaveofAllah88]

there are more important things to focus on in your religion and life. dont go to extremes

:salam2:

plz dont say that , growing the beard is not extremes... All the sahabas and most IMportant our Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) ... look wat ur implying with ur sentence please pick ur words wisely ... JazakAllah khair

 

[slaveofAllah88]

yes , yes we all know that...... but we also know that the prophet and all the sahabas did alot of other MORE IMPORTANT things that were far more beneficial to them and the people around them instead of running around asking people about beards.

just think... will allah check the intentions of your deeds or will he look to see if you had a beard or if your beard was a 100m long?? use your head man!!

this is the exact reason why the muslim ummah is suffering nowadays, everyone is more bothered about 'looking or feeling' like they are practising. If everyone did what they did for Allah's sake and only for him without giving a damn about what other people say then this world would be a very different place.

:salam2:

i think this is a topic for another thread, but all scholars agree abt shaving/trimming beard being haram so we have to take its a big sin too and ALlah knws best

 

[al-fajr]

just think... will allah check the intentions of your deeds or will he look to see if you had a beard or if your beard was a 100m long?? use your head man!!

Don't be rude. If anyones beard was indeed 100m long then yes that would certainly be problematic and disliked by Allaah, it would be totally against the Sunnah.

If everyone did what they did for Allah's sake and only for him without giving a damn about what other people say then this world would be a very different place.

What you said could actually be used against what you implied in the first post you made in this thread.

Wa-salaam

 

[IHearIslam]

Leave your beard short the way it is, go to the US and then start growing it a fist length.

I'd agree with Sister Channa....also, trust in Allaah....He'll NEVER abandon you !
If you're that scared I'd advice to pray istikhara, and go with the answer Allaah gives you. But one thing I know for sure is that when your intentions are correct, Allaah will always be there for you.

May Allaah ease your situation!

 

[queenislam]

The Beard.

:salam2:

I have this big confusion, so currently my beard is well its not full fist length, i have been feeling so bad, i know the real sunnah is fist length. But idk why like the way the things are, i fear something bad might happen, especially that i travel thru air alot and will be going to US soon, and i have Pak and Saudia visa on my passport just looking at that they cause alot of problems, im not sure what will happen with beard added to that, i have this fear and it just scares me, and then my family (all of them) especially my parents are really against me they fear something will happen to me.

But wat scares me more is dying and not having the beard and displeasing ALlah (swt), thats something its on my mind all the times, and all my friends keep telling me to grow the beard but i dont want to grow and the shave it ever ...

iim feeling a lil lost people have been giving me a mixed answered on this.
Has anyone experienced similar situation or got some advice???

JazakAllah khair
APpreciate it
take care

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:salam2:


Outlining the Beard Allowed/
The Beard Lenght By SYARIAH.

EXEMPTION

Islamic law is flexible and practical as taking into account all the factors around it. For those who have specific reasons such as medical-related needs have shaved the beard, the Islamic authority.

While under the control of an enemy of Islam and those who do wrong, if the beard is threatening the lives and safety, so he shaved and sharia requires it.

The duty of keeping the beard is for those who have beards.
For those who are destined not to grow beards, they are exempt from this obligation.
A person may be sought to make 'rules' specific to grow his beard do make duá and May Allah swt give him beard.

Islam is easy.
About growing beard it not compulsory
but growing it considered a plus and advice for muslim man.
But keeping it clean and very well groomed
is advisable!
As clean image count and making wudu' easier(must wash the whole face<most important.)

If you have the very need to shave it
so do so
and if you keep it
maintain it nicely.

~May Allah swt help and guide you~Amin!

Thank you for reading.
Take care,
~Wassalam .

 

[thariq2005]

The duty of keeping the beard is for those who have beards.
For those who are destined not to grow beards, they are exempt from this obligation.

Assalaamu `alaykum.

May Allaah increase you in beneficial knowledge. Sister for you to say that people who cannot grow beards are exempt from growing the beard is not correct. Please be careful as to what you advise people with, as it is befitting that a person who believes in Allaah and in the last day not to speak about the deen of Allaah when one does not know. The general ruling about the man is that he is obliged to "let" his beard grow and not shave it and there is an ijmaa` on this from the Salaf as Ibn Hazm mentioned.

I don't understand why people are even replying to the threads with "solutions" when they are not certain about their answer, and may Allaah save us all.

Akhee Shaheer, please refer to the people of knowledge regarding this question. A forum is not a place to ask such a serious question, as none of us here are qualified to give you an answer with certainty (especially about this "specific" issue). Many a times fataawa that are general might have a different ruling for a specific reason, and that reason can only be looked into by the person who has knowledge.

As for people who say that worrying about the beard is going to extremes, then let it be known that from the things that brings about the sweetness of eemaan in a person's heart is that Allaah and His Messenger :saw2: is more beloved to him that anything else. And to love the Messenger of Allaah :saw2:, a person must, as scholars mention: 1) Believe in every single thing he has come with, 2) To obey every command of the Prophet :saw2: 3) Anything that the Prophet :Saw2: prohibited, then you avoid. 4) And not to worship Allaah except by the way the Prophet :saw2:.

And a final advise to the brother who was being rude, then remember next time to be gentle and soft in your speech. Ar-Rifq (Gentleness) is from the qualities of the people who give Da`wah and it only helps in getting your message across. As Allaah mentions: So by mercy from Allah, [O Muhammad], you were lenient with them. And if you had been rude [in speech] and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you... [Soorah aal Imraan: 159]

So treat your brother like how you would wish him to treat you. Telling people to "use their head" is rude and people don't like it when such things are said to them.

Wassalaamu `alaykum

 

[Asja]

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarkatuhu

I agree with brothers and sisters who replied before me. You should only put your trust in Allah dear brother,and let your beard grow because it is Wajeeb for Muslim man by opinions of some Schoolars,and Sunnah by opinions of others Schoolars, but in every case it is haram for Muslim man to shave thier beards,and it is recomended to grow it for Allah sake.

And I would also like say that we should try to be gentle when giving Dawah to someone of when advicing others, and that every deed for the sake of Allah is importante,and folowing Sunnah of our Prophet Mohammed salalhu alayha wa saalam it is not extreme, but great deed in the sight of Allah.

May Allah help you respected brother and reword you with good on both Worlds for your honest intentions and may Allah help all our Muslim brothers who are passing trough the same like you. :tti_sister:

 

[abdul-aziz]

I don't understand why people are even replying to the threads with "solutions" when they are not certain about their answer, and may Allaah save us all.

Akhee Shaheer, please refer to the people of knowledge regarding this question. A forum is not a place to ask such a serious question, as none of us here are qualified to give you an answer with certainty (especially about this "specific" issue). Many a times fataawa that are general might have a different ruling for a specific reason, and that reason can only be looked into by the person who has knowledge.

:salam2:

As how you felt other comments were inappropriate, I think the above in red is extremely inappropriate.

since when does a muslim need to be qualified, to practice Islam?

Basing your statement you seem to know how much knowledge each of us have and how do you know that a person, has not already asked a sheik (pleasing to your standards) as well.

I suggest you pm the member rather than blast every member on this forum openly.

Not to many of us have time to answer questions appropriately.

don't take what I said, negatively, just as advise.


wa Allah ya'lam

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

We have two different topics going on.

First, son. Do not fear the immigration/border patrol. I was stopped in New Mexico. I just looked straight ahead and smiled. Dhirk is wonderful in times of panic. Believe everything will go smoothly. And it will. Place your trust in Allah subhana talla.

In terms of the beard what everyone is saying to you is patience. One step at a time. If it is important for you to come to the States do that. And as the sister said..grow your beard once you are safe. No-one will stop you from growing your beard.

You have to decide what is critical.

We do not need to bring attention to ourselves. Keep a trim beard..to quell the fears of those with no understanding. Besides a trim encourages growth of hair. You will have a full beard within weeks.

And we will make dua for you. ( The size of a beard is not the prerequisite for heaven. It is the intent of the heart. And, may Allah ease your burden)

 

[khangul]

:salam2:

I have this big confusion, so currently my beard is well its not full fist length, i have been feeling so bad, i know the real sunnah is fist length. But idk why like the way the things are, i fear something bad might happen, especially that i travel thru air alot and will be going to US soon, and i have Pak and Saudia visa on my passport just looking at that they cause alot of problems, im not sure what will happen with beard added to that, i have this fear and it just scares me, and then my family (all of them) especially my parents are really against me they fear something will happen to me.

But wat scares me more is dying and not having the beard and displeasing ALlah (swt), thats something its on my mind all the times, and all my friends keep telling me to grow the beard but i dont want to grow and the shave it ever ...

iim feeling a lil lost people have been giving me a mixed answered on this.
Has anyone experienced similar situation or got some advice???

JazakAllah khair
APpreciate it
take care

:salam2:

my husband has beautiful beard according to sunnah .brother what i regret the most???
i would tell my husband from a very first day to keep beard and i wish i had not waste my time reading other books than islamic books.

once you find the sweetness of the sunnah of our beloved prophet peace be upon him you ll try to go deeper and deeper in it .

for those who says intentions are everything , just tell them that your intentions explained by your appearence.

ALLAH is there to protect you ameen.

 

[twas19]

As salam alaykum

well, do what u feel when ur ready for it brother, -- a beard is not the be all and end all of being a Muslim

walaykum salam

 

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:

I think the thread kinda broke off into an different aspect, one important thing people dont know the importance of beard and its significance in Islam and the value it holds for a muslim. Please take some time to read below the hadith and links


Dress
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 72 :: Hadith 780
Narrated Nafi':
Ibn Umar said, The Prophet said, 'Do the opposite of what the pagans do. Keep the beards and cut the moustaches short.' Whenever Ibn 'Umar performed the Hajj or 'Umra, he used to hold his beard with his hand and cut whatever moustaches. Ibn Umar used to cut his moustache so short that the whiteness of his skin (above the upper lip) was visible, and he used to cut (the hair) between his moustaches and his beard.


Dress
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 72 :: Hadith 781
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is)."

Dress
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 72 :: Hadith 779
Narrated Abu Huraira :
I heard the Prophet saying. "Five practices are characteristics of the Fitra: circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, cutting the moustaches short, clipping the nails, and depilating the hair of the armpits."

Dress
Bukhari :: Book 7 :: Volume 72 :: Hadith 778
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "To shave the pubic hair. to clip the nails and to cut the moustaches short, are characteristics of the Fitra."


Ruling on Shaving your Beard
Doubts about the obligation to let the beard grow and answers to them

Haram to shave beard

So May Allah (swt) guide us all, - ameen

and please pick your words wisely, my friend told me one sheikh in his lecture said the way a muslim man is distinguished as a muslim is thru 3 things, 1- beard, 2 - trouser above the ankles . 3 ( sorry cant remember unfortunately)

So please if you still want to argue on the significance of the beard this is not the thread or the place.

 

[slaveofAllah88]

:salam2:

InshAllah i will try to reply to everyone who took the time to reply JazakAllah khair.

sister Channa, AmatuALlah4lyf, JazakAllah khair, twas19 for the advice InshAllah will try to keep it in mind

@ sis al-fajr, May Allah (swt) reward you for defending this beautiful sunnah - ameen

@ sis Queenislam, can you share the link please where you got the fatwa, cause alot of scholars might differ on that, every madhab and prominant scholars is strict on the view thats its haram to shave beard unless extremely necessary.

@ sis Asja, ameen to ur dua and you are right everyone is passing thru tough time, idk i wish this fear from my heard wud go away i really want to have the beard but i feel scared wat if it cause me alot of problems ... some muslims are calling it extremism here we can just imagine wat the non muslims would have to say.

@ Abdul-aziz, actually i agree with brother thariq2005, i should ask a scholar but the thing i was going to mention is that im not close to any scholar thats why this is the source and he gave a good advice ALhumdulilah

 

[slaveofAllah88]

aslam o aliakum

@ sisters Aapa, and Khangul
JazakAllah khair

SubhanAllah i just love the beard it has so much beauty my only prblem is the fear i have in my heart , just when they stop me at the border i get really scared like wat will they do now, and they way they question you its like they have already labeled you something and you haven't even done anything and last time they questioned me for 3 hour and then send me back to canada which even scares me more now cuz i really need to go to US to complete my studies and finish my medical degree so im just worried abt that ...

ameen to ur dua sister khangul, may AllaH swt protect u ur family and all the muslims - ameen

 

[slaveofAllah88]

Assalaamu `alaykum.

May Allaah increase you in beneficial knowledge. Sister for you to say that people who cannot grow beards are exempt from growing the beard is not correct. Please be careful as to what you advise people with, as it is befitting that a person who believes in Allaah and in the last day not to speak about the deen of Allaah when one does not know. The general ruling about the man is that he is obliged to "let" his beard grow and not shave it and there is an ijmaa` on this from the Salaf as Ibn Hazm mentioned.

I don't understand why people are even replying to the threads with "solutions" when they are not certain about their answer, and may Allaah save us all.

Akhee Shaheer, please refer to the people of knowledge regarding this question. A forum is not a place to ask such a serious question, as none of us here are qualified to give you an answer with certainty (especially about this "specific" issue). Many a times fataawa that are general might have a different ruling for a specific reason, and that reason can only be looked into by the person who has knowledge.

As for people who say that worrying about the beard is going to extremes, then let it be known that from the things that brings about the sweetness of eemaan in a person's heart is that Allaah and His Messenger :saw2: is more beloved to him that anything else. And to love the Messenger of Allaah :saw2:, a person must, as scholars mention: 1) Believe in every single thing he has come with, 2) To obey every command of the Prophet :saw2: 3) Anything that the Prophet :Saw2: prohibited, then you avoid. 4) And not to worship Allaah except by the way the Prophet :saw2:.

And a final advise to the brother who was being rude, then remember next time to be gentle and soft in your speech. Ar-Rifq (Gentleness) is from the qualities of the people who give Da`wah and it only helps in getting your message across. As Allaah mentions: So by mercy from Allah, [O Muhammad], you were lenient with them. And if you had been rude [in speech] and harsh in heart, they would have disbanded from about you... [Soorah aal Imraan: 159]

So treat your brother like how you would wish him to treat you. Telling people to "use their head" is rude and people don't like it when such things are said to them.

Wassalaamu `alaykum

:salam2: akhi
i really appreciate your honest advice InshALlah im going to try to explain my situation to the sheikh on islamqa and see if i can get a scholar advice on that. InshAllah

and bro u r right, beard brings this sweetness of faith and joy in a person mind that cant be expressed or said in words .

I just want to mention here, You need to believe in islam from your heard, words and actions and if they are missing then you wont complete ur eeman, you cant hve believe in ur hard and not pray Salah and your salah wont be accepted till you have eeman in ur heart and likewise saying the shahadah is very imp

JazakAllah khair