Freemasons and Islam?

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MutlekM

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Has anyone seen this series of videos - ARRIVALS?
http://www.wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1&Video=91

its one of the best documentaries i think ever made for online community... it talks about freemasons and illuminati etc...

its quite long, there r 50 video parts of 10 mins each.
hope you all take the time to watch them. TRULY AN EYE OPENER



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It is very beneficial but I think the videos I put at the beginning of the thread said the same thing except in shorter videos. Thanks again
Peace:)

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in sha Allah what we say or what we suggest will not be held against us on that Day.

I don't recommend you waste your time with the Arrivals, it is ridiculous and was full of haram videos.

There was a another series done by someone claiming The Sunnah wa jama3a version of it.

I did not watch any of it except 1 to check it out. The title is "The Khalifa is Coming" and in it there was a an amazing hadith that I never knew, narrated by Tareq Swaidan. SubhanAllah. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVjXE7Nilg


in any event, Allah is aware, and to Him we seek guidance and protection.

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JazakAllaah khair
A good video and very beneficial. I will definately watch from the beginning.
Peace:)
 

MutlekM

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Praise be to Allah (The Glorified and Exalted).


1) Firstly, the Freemasons are atheists, just as the Muslim brother I mentioned had stated after he visited their lodge.
If some of them believe in Allah (God), then so be it. Do not believe the lies or ignorant tales of some of their followers.

2) In Turkey, this event was big news and was even spoken about in the Parliament, as I had stated in the article above, in the previous post:

See also the threads:

1) God in Islam: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41045

2) Proving Islam: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40837

3) Science Against Evolution: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62132

4) http://thedeenshow.com/

5) http://www.islamreligion.com/

JazakAllaah khair
very beneficial for the muslims and nonmuslims
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Searching_soul

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ok bros and sis, hope you don't get angry with me bringing this topic again about the arrivals :)
But although the videos had lots of haram stuff to watch, but the message is quite convincing. I mean the signs are all over. What if it really is true? That the freemasons in higher positions are actually communicating with the jinns and planning all sorts of destruction on earth. Its not a far fetched idea, since the signs provided are very evident.

Another thing is, there are authentic hadeeths of sahabas (companions of the prophet) actually meeting dajjal in person right. And the story goes that the sahabas landed on an unknown island where he was chained.
What if he's in Bermuda Triangle (the forbidden place in the ocean where no plane/ship ever escapes - as THEY say)

This wasn't brought up in the Arrivals videos but think about it, whats the sign of the Freemasons, Isn't it the triangle? And how do we actually know that bermuda triangle is a very hostile place? No one has ever gone there except the US NAVY and Airforce. What if they are hiding something, and don't want us to venture that area. As you know, they have the media under their control and supervision and its very easy for them to deceive us (example 9/11)

your views are much appreciated :)



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Searching_soul

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we know from the ahadeeth that the devil has a thorne over the oceans, and he sends his brigades here and there to incite evil amongst mankind, and the best of those brigades in the eyes of this accursed are those that cause disunity amongst the husband and wife.
 

MutlekM

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:salam2:

ok bros and sis, hope you don't get angry with me bringing this topic again about the arrivals :)
But although the videos had lots of haram stuff to watch, but the message is quite convincing. I mean the signs are all over. What if it really is true? That the freemasons in higher positions are actually communicating with the jinns and planning all sorts of destruction on earth. Its not a far fetched idea, since the signs provided are very evident.

Another thing is, there are authentic hadeeths of sahabas (companions of the prophet) actually meeting dajjal in person right. And the story goes that the sahabas landed on an unknown island where he was chained.
What if he's in Bermuda Triangle (the forbidden place in the ocean where no plane/ship ever escapes - as THEY say)

This wasn't brought up in the Arrivals videos but think about it, whats the sign of the Freemasons, Isn't it the triangle? And how do we actually know that bermuda triangle is a very hostile place? No one has ever gone there except the US NAVY and Airforce. What if they are hiding something, and don't want us to venture that area. As you know, they have the media under their control and supervision and its very easy for them to deceive us (example 9/11)

your views are much appreciated :)



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thanks a lot bro I have thought the same thing but unlike you I think that yaguug and maguug ( the monsters that are said to come on day of Judgement)are in the Bermunda triangle.
Peace:)
 

ShyHijabi

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This wasn't brought up in the Arrivals videos but think about it, whats the sign of the Freemasons, Isn't it the triangle? And how do we actually know that bermuda triangle is a very hostile place? No one has ever gone there except the US NAVY and Airforce. What if they are hiding something, and don't want us to venture that area. As you know, they have the media under their control and supervision and its very easy for them to deceive us (example 9/11)

Just to clear up a misconception, I've been through the Bermuda trinagle numerous times. (you have to go through it to go most places in the Caribbean)The belief that the Bermuda triangle is some place of no return is just that, a myth. The same amount of crashed ships and planes happen there as anywhere else in the ocean statisitically. It is one of the most traveled shipping lanes in the Atlantic, commercial and cruise-wise.

I know this, nothing happens without the allowance of Allah swt and we should focus on that. If it is His will that some nuts performing a ridiculous ceremony drinking goats blood and wearing dresses should be allowed the fredom of being fools, then so be it. I think we as Muslims should focus on our own selves and actually make sure we have a correct understanding of our religion.
 

MutlekM

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Just to clear up a misconception, I've been through the Bermuda trinagle numerous times. (you have to go through it to go most places in the Caribbean)The belief that the Bermuda triangle is some place of no return is just that, a myth. The same amount of crashed ships and planes happen there as anywhere else in the ocean statisitically. It is one of the most traveled shipping lanes in the Atlantic, commercial and cruise-wise.

I know this, nothing happens without the allowance of Allah swt and we should focus on that. If it is His will that some nuts performing a ridiculous ceremony drinking goats blood and wearing dresses should be allowed the fredom of being fools, then so be it. I think we as Muslims should focus on our own selves and actually make sure we have a correct understanding of our religion.

Well I will go into further research so I could prove for myself but thanks for the info. dang this also means I gotta start from a blank page again.
Peace
 

MutlekM

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Sis I couldnt find anything that was against my conclusion. :
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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For other uses, see Bermuda Triangle (disambiguation).
Bermuda Triangle

Borders of the Bermuda Triangle
Classification
Grouping: Paranormal places

Description
Also known as: Devil's Triangle
Country: International waters, The Bahamas
Status: Urban legend
The Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is a region in the western part of the North Atlantic Ocean in which a number of aircraft and surface vessels are alleged to have mysteriously disappeared in a manner that cannot be explained by human error, piracy, equipment failure, or natural disasters. Popular culture has attributed these disappearances to the paranormal, a suspension of the laws of physics, or activity by extraterrestrial beings.[1]

A substantial body of documentation reveals, however, that a significant portion of the allegedly mysterious incidents have been inaccurately reported or embellished by later authors, and numerous official agencies have stated that the number and nature of disappearances in the region is similar to that in any other area of ocean.[2][3][4]

Another one:
The Bermuda Triangle
Related Resources:
Bermuda Triangle Bibliography
Rosenberg, Howard. "Exorcising the Devil's Triangle." Sealift 24, no. 6 (June 1974): 11-15.
Loss of Flight 19
USS Cyclops


The Bermuda Triangle


The "Bermuda Triangle" or "Devil's Triangle" is an imaginary area located off the southeastern Atlantic coast of the United States of America, which is noted for a supposedly high incidence of unexplained disappearances of ships and aircraft. The apexes of the triangle are generally believed to be Bermuda; Miami, Florida; and San Juan, Puerto Rico. The US Board of Geographic Names does not recognize the Bermuda Triangle as an official name. The US Navy does not believe the Bermuda Triangle exists. It is reported that Lloyd's of London, the world's leading market for specialist insurance, does not charge higher premiums for vessels transiting this heavily traveled area.


The most famous US Navy losses which have occurred in the area popularly known as the Bermuda Triangle are USS Cyclops in March 1918 and the aircraft of Flight 19 in December 1945. The ship probably sank in an unexpected storm, and the aircraft ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean -- no physical traces of them have ever been found. Another well known disappearance is the civilian tanker SS Marine Sulphur Queen carrying bulk molten sulfur which sank in February 1963. Although the wreck of Marine Sulphur Queen has not been located, a life preserver and other floating artifacts were recovered. These disappearances have been used to provide credence to the popular belief in the mystery and purported supernatural qualities of the "Bermuda Triangle."



Since the days of early civilization many thousands of ships have sunk and/or disappeared in waters around the world due to navigational and other human errors, storms, piracy, fires, and structural/mechanical failures. Aircraft are subject to the same problems, and many of them have crashed at sea around the globe. Often, there were no living witnesses to the sinking or crash, and hence the exact cause of the loss and the location of the lost ship or aircraft are unknown. A large number of pleasure boats travel the waters between Florida and the Bahamas. All too often, crossings are attempted with too small a boat, insufficient knowledge of the area's hazards, and a lack of good seamanship.



To see how common accidents are at sea, you can examine some of the recent accident reports of the National Transportation Safety Board for ships and aircraft. One of the aircraft accident reports concerns an in-flight engine failure and subsequent ditching of a Cessna aircraft near Great Abaco Island in the Bahamas on 13 July 2003. This is the type of accident that would likely have been attributed to mysterious causes in the Bermuda Triangle if there had been no survivors or other eyewitnesses of the crash.



A significant factor with regard to missing vessels in the Bermuda Triangle is a strong ocean current called the Gulf Stream. It is extremely swift and turbulent and can quickly erase evidence of a disaster. The weather also plays its role. Prior to the development of telegraph, radio and radar, sailors did not know a storm or hurricane was nearby until it appeared on the horizon. For example, the Continental Navy sloop Saratoga was lost off the Bahamas in such a storm with all her crew on 18 March 1781. Many other US Navy ships have been lost at sea in storms around the world. Sudden local thunder storms and water spouts can sometimes spell disaster for mariners and air crews. Finally, the topography of the ocean floor varies from extensive shoals around the islands to some of the deepest marine trenches in the world. With the interaction of the strong currents over the many reefs the topography of the ocean bottom is in a state of flux and the development of new navigational hazards can sometimes be swift.



It has been inaccurately claimed that the Bermuda Triangle is one of the two places on earth at which a magnetic compass points towards true north. Normally a compass will point toward magnetic north. The difference between the two is known as compass variation. The amount of variation changes by as much as 60 degrees at various locations around the World. If this compass variation or error is not compensated for, navigators can find themselves far off course and in deep trouble. Although in the past this compass variation did affect the "Bermuda Triangle" region, due to fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field this has apparently not been the case since the nineteenth century.



We know of no US Government-issued maps that delineate the boundaries of the Bermuda Triangle. However, general maps as well as nautical and aviation charts of the general area are widely available in libraries and from commercial map dealers.

Please if you have anyhing to prove me wrong please show me.
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MutlekM

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thanks a lot bro I have thought the same thing but unlike you I think that yaguug and maguug ( the monsters that are said to come on day of Judgement)are in the Bermunda triangle.
Peace:)

Changed my mind after furher studying Yaguug and Maguug arent in the Bermunda I heard they were underground. Yet I know I heard that the chair of Iblees is on the ocean(sorry I dont know where but I heard it somwhere).
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True_Sultan

A logical believer
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Lol I think I already posted that but I posted 2 things and if you want I could post more:)
Peace

Bermuda Triangle is a natural/physical phenomenon. It has been mysterious for years. I highly doubt its something magical or evil, but people are affraid to go seek out for themselves (i wanna do it), its the unknown of this world, even if it was something supernatural, there would be proof of it everywhere. Also a word of advice and logic, there are ships and planes that go through it everyday, there hasn't been any missing lately. So i guess it happens once in a while. Andf brother Mutlke i suggest doing so research on the dead sea, if i can remember correctly there were people of that land who transgressed alot and they were sent to the underworld, like bellow sea. Maybe thats where the Yajooj Majooj are. Just a thought you know, i could be wrong but im just saying :)

and btw please check my newer post: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66185

Jakaaz Allah Khair
 

MutlekM

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Bermuda Triangle is a natural/physical phenomenon. It has been mysterious for years. I highly doubt its something magical or evil, but people are affraid to go seek out for themselves (i wanna do it), its the unknown of this world, even if it was something supernatural, there would be proof of it everywhere. Also a word of advice and logic, there are ships and planes that go through it everyday, there hasn't been any missing lately. So i guess it happens once in a while. Andf brother Mutlke i suggest doing so research on the dead sea, if i can remember correctly there were people of that land who transgressed alot and they were sent to the underworld, like bellow sea. Maybe thats where the Yajooj Majooj are. Just a thought you know, i could be wrong but im just saying :)

and btw please check my newer post: http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66185

Jakaaz Allah Khair

Possibly I heard that the dead sea is so salty you could basically float on it.
but it is very interesting topic. O yea I saw your other post before I am not very smart at those things and I dont wanna say anything wrong. But I think sis ShyHijabi might be able to help she has much more knowledge than me.
Peace
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
Possibly I heard that the dead sea is so salty you could basically float on it.
but it is very interesting topic. O yea I saw your other post before I am not very smart at those things and I dont wanna say anything wrong. But I think sis ShyHijabi might be able to help she has much more knowledge than me.
Peace

I hope anybody can help, it will help me rid of my confusion brother, and yeah it is interesting, and if u think about all organic based entities after they decay they do have salt molecules in them, that could explain the salt buildup :)
 

True_Sultan

A logical believer
Dead Sea facts....http://www.extremescience.com/DeadSea.htm You guys have me chuckling over here, the simple miracle of an embryo forming in the womb could make anyone gobsmacked but you guys want triangles and mystery. :)

Why not sister, i want to find the unknown (check my post to make sense of why) and yeah MutleKm check out that link, it should give you some insight on that topic, i don't know about my theory (if it is a valid theory) but it wouldn't hurt to check it out :) :D

Jakaaz Allah Khair sister ShyHjabi for the links
 

MutlekM

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I also heard that when the finall muslims against kufar battle in the end the dead sea will be filled with blood.( correct me if I am wrong)
Peace
 

Searching_soul

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Dead Sea facts....http://www.extremescience.com/DeadSea.htm You guys have me chuckling over here, the simple miracle of an embryo forming in the womb could make anyone gobsmacked but you guys want triangles and mystery. :)

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Hmm.... i don't understand the part - What caused the dead sea to form.
They are explaining in a scientific sense without any reference to the historical data. Ofcourse we know from the Noble Qur'an that it was the angel who basically flipped the whole city due to the perverted acts of the people. So what has science got to do with the dead sea forming? :)

Please care to explain sis ShyHijabi

I believe science can explain something, but not Everything.


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ShyHijabi

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Hmm.... i don't understand the part - What caused the dead sea to form.
They are explaining in a scientific sense without any reference to the historical data. Ofcourse we know from the Noble Qur'an that it was the angel who basically flipped the whole city due to the perverted acts of the people. So what has science got to do with the dead sea forming? :)

Please care to explain sis ShyHijabi

I believe science can explain something, but not Everything.


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Could you please provide the reference to the Dead Sea in the Qur'an? I am not familiar with that passage. And we all know that while an angel may do something that does not mean natural means were not used.

These guys were wondering why the water was so salty and the explanation is very clear and can be expressed in scientific words. It's just evaporation and the inflow of salt sediments from sourrounding bodies of water.
 
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