I need help refuting this Non-Muslim!

A-believer-25

Junior Member
:salam2:

Well I have been debating against a Non-Muslim on a gaming forum. This person keeps accusing our prophet (peace be upon him) of commiting crimes (astaghfirullah)

Would it be OK if I post the quote so you guys can help me here? he puts up links to anti-Islamic sites, so if I have permission to post the quote I will not post the links. I will edited them out, inshallah.

I have posted responses to this man and have posted links to Islamic websites and videos on youtube to refute this man but I don't think its good enough for these people. Should I even bother debating?
 

World Peace

Islam is Light
Asalam aleacom warahmato Allah wabarakato brother A-believer-25

It may be best to write to him quotes of scholars and non muslims whom studied Prophet Muhammad's life (peace be upon him), and refuted misconceptions and false claims surrounding him.

Examples of quotes non-Muslims/scholars/and those whom converted to Islam, include the following:

Annie Besant in 'The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,' Madras , 1932.
It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knew how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel, whenever I reread them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher.

Dr. Gustav Weil in 'History of the Islamic Peoples'
Muhammad was a shining example to his people. His character was pure and stainless. His house, his dress, his food - they were characterized by a rare simplicity.


Lane-Poole in 'Speeches and Table Talk of the Prophet Muhammad'
He was the most faithful protector of those he protected, the sweetest and most agreeable in conversation. Those who saw him were suddenly filled with reverence; those who came near him loved him; they who described him would say, "I have never seen his like either before or after." He was of great taciturnity, but when he spoke it was with emphasis and deliberation, and no one could forget what he said...

Sir George Bernard Shaw in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.
"If any religion had the chance of ruling over England , nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam."
“I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."
"I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”


Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in 'Young India.
I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind.... I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.


Michael Hart in 'The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons In History,' New York , 1978.
My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level. ...It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. ...It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history.


The Encyclopedia Britannica
"Muhammad is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities."

W. Montgomery Watt in 'Muhammad at Mecca ,' Oxford , 1953.
...none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad....

James Michener in ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,’ Reader’s Digest, May 1955, pp. 68-70.
"No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience."
...he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden...


Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley in ‘History of the Saracen Empire,’ London , 1870
"The greatest success of Mohammad’s life was effected by sheer moral force."


A. S. Tritton in 'Islam,' 1951
The picture of the Muslim soldier advancing with a sword in one hand and the Qur'an in the other is quite false.

De Lacy O'Leary in 'Islam at the Crossroads,' London , 1923.
History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.

Lawrence E. Browne in ‘The Prospects of Islam,’ 1944
Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword.


Edward Montet, 'La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries Musulmans,' Paris 1890. (Also in T.W. Arnold in 'The Preaching of Islam,' London 1913.)
"Islam is a religion that is essentially rationalistic in the widest sense of this term considered etymologically and historically....the teachings of the Prophet, the Qur'an has invariably kept its place as the fundamental starting point, and the dogma of unity of God has always been proclaimed therein with a grandeur a majesty, an invariable purity and with a note of sure conviction, which it is hard to find surpassed outside the pale of Islam....A creed so precise, so stripped of all theological complexities and consequently so accessible to the ordinary understanding might be expected to possess and does indeed possess a marvelous power of winning its way into the consciences of men."

Alphonse de LaMartaine in 'Historie de la Turquie,' Paris , 1854.
"Never has a man set for himself, voluntarily or involuntarily, a more sublime aim, since this aim was superhuman; to subvert superstitions which had been imposed between man and his Creator, to render God unto man and man unto God; to restore the rational and sacred idea of divinity amidst the chaos of the material and disfigured gods of idolatry, then existing . Never has a man undertaken a work so far beyond human power with so feeble means, for he (Muhammad) had in the conception as well as in the execution of such a great design, no other instrument than himself and no other aid except a handful of men living in a corner of the desert. Finally, never has a man accomplished such a huge and lasting revolution in the world, because in less than two centuries after its appearance, Islam, in faith and in arms, reigned over the whole of Arabia, and conquered, in God's name, Persia Khorasan, Transoxania, Western India, Syria, Egypt, Abyssinia, all the known continent of Northern Africa, numerous islands of the Mediterranean Sea, Spain, and part of Gaul.
"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astonishing results are the three criteria of a human genius, who could dare compare any great man in history with Muhammad?


Jules Masserman in 'Who Were Histories Great Leaders?' in TIME Magazine, July 15, 1974
Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammad, who combined all the three functions. To a lesser degree Moses did the same.


W. Montgomery Watt, MOHAMMAD AT MECCA, Oxford, 1953, p. 52.
"His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad."

Sarogini Naidu, the famous poetess of India says about Islam:
"It was the first religion that preached and practiced democracy; for in the mosque, when the call for prayer is sounded and worshippers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and king kneel side by side and proclaim: 'God Alone is Great'… I have been struck over and over again by this indivisible unity of Islam that makes man instinctively a brother."

Thomas Carlyle
"how one man single-handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades."

D.C. Sharma, The Prophets of The East, Calcutta, 1935, pp. 12
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."

George Bernard Shaw
He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numerous social and political reforms, established a powerful and dynamic society to practice and represent his teachings and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and behavior for all times to come.
...Muhammad (pbuh) accomplished so much in such diverse fields of human thought and behavior in the fullest blaze of human history. Every detail of his private life and public utterances has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to our day. The authenticity of the record so preserved are vouched for not only by the faithful followers but even by his prejudiced critics.
..Muhammad (pbuh) was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, an administrative colossus, a faithful friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father - all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in any of these different aspects of life - but it was only for the selfless personality of Muhammad (pbuh) to achieve such incredible perfections.

K. S. RAMAKRISHNA RAO, an Indian Professor of Philosophy in his booklet, "Muhammad, The Prophet of Islam," calls him the "PERFECT MODEL FOR HUMAN LIFE."
The least YOU could do as a thinking and concerned human being is to stop for a moment and ask yourself: Could these statements sounding so extraordinary and revolutionary be really true? And supposing they really are true and you did not know this man MUHAMMAD (pbuh) or hear about him, isn't it time you responded to this tremendous challenge and put in some effort to know him?
It will cost you nothing but it may prove to be the beginning of a completely new era in your life.
We invite you to make a discovery of this wonderful man, Muhammad (pbuh), the like of whom never walked on the face of this earth.


The Truth about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
http://www.rasoulallah.net

Islam Religion
www.islamreligion.com

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Source:


Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in their Eyes
http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/folder.aspx?lang=en&folder=380
Contemporary Christian Evaluations of Muhammad's Prophethood
http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/folder.aspx?lang=en&folder=962
Fair Orientalists' Statements
http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/folder.aspx?lang=en&folder=31
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For you brother, you may find the following link useful in making dawa to non muslims.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) - Refuting Misconceptions
http://www.rasoulallah.net/v2/folder.aspx?lang=en&folder=29

Wasalam aleacom warahmato Allah wabarakato
 

alf2

Islam is a way of life
When it comes to religious, I do not debate. I discuss.
Also, when it comes to discussing and educating others about Islam, I can usually tell if they WANT to be educated.

With some people brother, they dont want to know what Islam is. They live in blissful ignorance and will NOT accept anything you tell them.

Insha'Allah it will be different for you, but if its not please dont think its your fault. With some people its like talking to a brick wall and you have to know when to just walk away before Shaytaan gets the best of you.
 

A-believer-25

Junior Member
:salam2:

@World peace-
Thank you so much for the quotes, I really appreciate it. May Allah (SWT) reward you, sister!

@alf2- Thank you so much for the advice! May Allah (SWT) reward you, sister!
Yeah these type of people do get on my nerves. I try to be polite and patient with them. Just today on that same site, some guy made a new thread just to post a certain quote from the hadith, and I can tell he was looking to start trouble. I did respond and the guy was being aragont. It got locked before I could add anything else.
So pretty much, I can tell these guys have no real interest about Islam. They only seek to start trouble.

May Allah (SWT) reward you both, ameen!
 

tariq353

Junior Member
:salam2:

There are two types of people
1- One who don't want to listen....they will put questions and when you answer they will come up with further just to argue (they wont mind using falsehood).

2-those who are really intrested in learning they will listen to your answers, think and will ask question to know more/clarify.

In case of 1st just Present the truth and leave ........
In 2nd care carry on ........

let me share my personal exp...
In the beginning on my you tube channel i was quick in replying to the comments but....... hard headed people are not interested in listening to what u r replying......
Now i disable commenting :)

Wa salam
 

A-believer-25

Junior Member
:salam2:

There are two types of people
1- One who don't want to listen....they will put questions and when you answer they will come up with further just to argue (they wont mind using falsehood).

2-those who are really intrested in learning they will listen to your answers, think and will ask question to know more/clarify.

In case of 1st just Present the truth and leave ........
In 2nd care carry on ........

let me share my personal exp...
In the beginning on my you tube channel i was quick in replying to the comments but....... hard headed people are not interested in listening to what u r replying......
Now i disable commenting :)

Wa salam

Yeah, that sounds like good advice. I realized that arguing with those type of people is just a waste of time. If they have a hardend heart, than that's their problem. I appreciate the advice, brother! May Allah (SWT) reward you!

I'll try to avoid getting in debates with these people in the future, inshallah.

Also, turning off the comments on your Youtube channel is a good idea! :D
 

tariq353

Junior Member
:salam2:

Yes brother useless arguing is not recommended...

The Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “I guarantee a house in the surroundings of Paradise for a person who avoids quarreling, even if knows he is in the right.”

[Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 4782]

:)
 

A-believer-25

Junior Member
:salam2:

Yes brother useless arguing is not recommended...

The Messenger (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, “I guarantee a house in the surroundings of Paradise for a person who avoids quarreling, even if knows he is in the right.”

[Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 4782]

:)

Thank you for the hadith quote! :D Jazakallah khair, brother!
:)
 

Ahsen

Junior Member
Some people have outbound connections only.Their inbound connections are blocked by a firewall.
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
:salam2:

There are two types of people
1- One who don't want to listen....they will put questions and when you answer they will come up with further just to argue (they wont mind using falsehood).

2-those who are really intrested in learning they will listen to your answers, think and will ask question to know more/clarify.

In case of 1st just Present the truth and leave ........
In 2nd care carry on ........

let me share my personal exp...
In the beginning on my you tube channel i was quick in replying to the comments but....... hard headed people are not interested in listening to what u r replying......
Now i disable commenting :)

Wa salam

:salam2: SO TRUE!!
 
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