Martin Lings: Muhammad His Life based on Earlier Sources

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Globalpeace

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Asslamo Allaikum,

I am just a humble student of Qur'aan and Sunnah and recently read Muhammad His Life based on Earlier Sources (by Martin Lings (RA))...

I am not a Scholar but I found this book about the life of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) deeply disturbing and in contradiction with other books on Seerah and also with Saheeh Ahadeeth.

I have been told that this book is very popular amongst Reverts and has been translated into 12 languages; I would advise ALL to consult a reliable scholar BEFORE reading it.

Allahu Ta'ala Aalam.

P.S: Since I am not a Scholar; I hold my judgement.

P.P.S: I must say that the literary style and lucidity of the text is Superb.
 

AishaR

Junior Member
:salam2:

Inshallah this finds you all in good health.

Asslamo Allaikum,

I am just a humble student of Qur'aan and Sunnah and recently read Muhammad His Life based on Earlier Sources (by Martin Lings (RA))...

I am not a Scholar but I found this book about the life of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) deeply disturbing and in contradiction with other books on Seerah and also with Saheeh Ahadeeth..

Can I ask you explain this a little more? How was it so off the mark??


:wasalam:
 

Globalpeace

Banned
W-Salam Sister,

I am going to try to relate a few things from memory:

1) The books talks about Abu Talib; uncle of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) reading the Kalima (heard by Abbas (RA) ) while Ahlus-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah believe that Abu-Talib DID NOT become Muslim till the end and we have Saheeh Ahadeeth to state that he will be punished in the fire of Hell

2) It says that Kabah is called “Kabah (Cube)” due to it’s CUBE-LIKE structure; we know that it wasn’t cube-like (rather it was rectangular) as built by Ibraheem (AS)

3) It talks about Ibraheem (AS) having two centres of religion (i.e. Jerusalem & Makkah) & I think this is blatant attempt to unify religions (or something) because Qur’aan definitely talks about Kabah as being the centre and Allah (SWT) commanded Ibraheem (AS) to build Kabah...Qur'aan & Hadeeth don't talk about Ibraheem (AS) having two centres!

4) The book talks about Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) being of average strength when we know from Saheeh Ahadeeth that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) wrestled with Rukana (one of the strongest men in Arabia) and floored him three times

5) It talks about the eyes of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) being black, light brown or even grey! We know that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) had jet black eyes

6) The book talks about Umm Al-Fadl (Abbas(RA)’s wife) BEING closer to Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) then his uncle Abbas (RA); I think this is pure speculation as the role and closeness of Abbas (RA)’s to Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is well known in Seerah

7) The book talks about Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)’s saw things in Meiraj through the eyes of Gibrael; however Ahlus-Sunnah Wal Jamaah believe that Meiraj (ascension to the heavens) was PHYSICAL!

I didn't take notes so that's all I can remember.



:salam2:

Inshallah this finds you all in good health.



Can I ask you explain this a little more? How was it so off the mark??


:wasalam:
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
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salam

when i read it i never noticed this stuff, but then thats just me i wouldnt!

have any scholars said anything about this book being inaccurate?
 

Globalpeace

Banned
W-Salam,

You must have noticed about Abu-Talib's reciting the Kalima; that would have shocked any Muslim!

Maybe not the other bits and bobs.

salam

when i read it i never noticed this stuff, but then thats just me i wouldnt!

have any scholars said anything about this book being inaccurate?
 

Globalpeace

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The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom)

Asslamo Allaikum,

As I said previously that I am NOT a Scholar and I am liable to err.

I would however recommend The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom) by Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Mubarkpuri (RA) for all (Reverts, Born-Muslims, Non-Muslims etc.)

I attach a copy in English for all to read HOWEVER I must warn you that translation is NOT good & there are spelling mistakes; but hey! Its free! :)

I advise all to SPEND the money and buy the paper-copy as the translation is revised, lucid and accurate.
 

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aDYiNGdream

Aspiring Mutawakkil
:salam2: Brother,

JazakAllah khair for the heads up. I didnt notice the contradictions myself. Maybe I should reread it since it is one of my favortie books and I recommend it to almost everybody I know. :confused:

:wasalam:
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
Asslamo Allaikum,

As I said previously that I am NOT a Scholar and I am liable to err.

I would however recommend The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom) by Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Mubarkpuri (RA) for all (Reverts, Born-Muslims, Non-Muslims etc.)

I attach a copy in English for all to read HOWEVER I must warn you that translation is NOT good & there are spelling mistakes; but hey! Its free! :)

I advise all to SPEND the money and buy the paper-copy as the translation is revised, lucid and accurate.

salam

Yes,this book was chosen the best in the first Islamic conference on Seerah ,which was held in 1976.It was chosen among 171 manuscripts from all over the world,about the life of the Prophet(PBUH)
Its slitely different from what u described in the other book...
Also another book that I like,I don't know if anybody knows.Its written
by Fethullah Gulen,Turkish scholar.it has 2 volumes.This book is describing the life of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH),his (PBUH) character......from many hadiths.....I think its very good book also...
salam
 

marzuki mohamed

Junior Member
beware of Orientalis writer.

Thanks bro globalpeace for highlight this kind of situation.

im NOT a scholar 2.

just wanna interupted with my little knowledge..we must be careful with certain source that we read or getting the info for (e.g turn to last page and view their reference plus search for that author bio).there was a lots of orientalis writer that studying about Islam and manipulation it through words..but some managed to get Hidayah after doing their research.

i'm NOT sure about Martin Lings becoz 1st i never meet him face 2 face, 2nd i never read his book BUT you can refer all his book from the URL below.BUT from his "book title" maybe we can get some hint's about his interest's the for e.g the shrik stuff like sufism..:astag: etc.

just be careful and it's advisable if we can refer to our scholar on this matter.

correct me if im wrong.


About the Author: i copy from http://www.fonsvitae.com/martin-lings-book-list.html

Dr. Martin Lings is the author of the authoritative biography of the Prophet, Muhammed, His Life Based on the Earliest Sources. He has also written What is Sufism?, Ancient Beliefs and Modern Superstitions, Shakespeare in Light of Sacred Art, The Book of Certainty, A Sufi Saint of the Twentieth Century, A Return to The Spirit- Answers to Questions, The Quranic Art of Calligraphy and Illumination and two volumes of poems, The Element and The Heralds. He is also the author of the article on Sufism in the latest edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica, the chapter on Sufism in the Cambridge University Publication Religion in the Middle East, and numerous articles for the quarterly journal Studies in Comparative Religion.

Martin Lings was born in Burnage, Lancashire, 1909. After taking an English degree at Oxford in 1932, he was appointed Lecturer in Anglo-Saxon at the University of Kaunas. His interest in Islam and in Arabic took him to Egypt in 1939, and in the following year he was given a lectureship in Cairo University. In 1952 he returned to England and took a degree in Arabic at London University. From 1970-74 he was Keeper of Oriental Manuscripts and Printed Books at the British Museum (in 1973 his Department became part of the British Library) where he had been in special charge of the Qur’an manuscripts, amongst other treasures, since 1955. Dr. Lings passed from this world on May 12th 2005 and is survived by his wife.
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Selected Bibliography of Major Works:

The Book of Certainty: The Sufi Doctrine of Faith, Wisdom and Gnosis. Abu Bakr Siraj al Din 1952, 1970, 1992
A Muslim [Sufi] Saint of the Twentieth Century. 1961, 1971,1973,1981,1982,1993
Ancient Beliefs and Modern Superstitions. 1964, 1980, 1991
Shakespeare in the Light of Sacred Art. 1966
The Elements, and other Poems. 1967
The Heralds, and other Poems. 1970
Islamic Calligraphy and Illumination. 1971
What is Sufism?. 1975,1977, 1981, 1993
The Quranic Art of Calligraphy and Illumination. 1976, 1978, 1987
Muhammad: His Life Based on the Earliest Sources. 1983,1985,1991
The Secret of Shakespeare. 1984
Collected Poems, 1987
The Eleventh Hour: The Spiritual Crisis of the Modern World in the Light of Tradition and Prophecy. 1989
Symbol and Archetype: A Study of the Meaning of Existence. 1991, 2006
Mecca, 2004

Sufi Poems 2004
A Return to The Spirit- Answers to Questions. 2005
Splendours of Quran Calligraphy and Illumination, 2005

The Essential Martin Lings, 2006
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
W-Salam,

You must have noticed about Abu-Talib's reciting the Kalima; that would have shocked any Muslim!

Maybe not the other bits and bobs.

oops dont even recall it...thats dangerous stuff!

i only read the book once and it was a while ago. maybe i should have another stab at it.

but in light of this stuff...maybe not ^

ill try The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom) instead inshallah.

wasalam
 

samiha

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Staff member
Asslamo Allaikum,

As I said previously that I am NOT a Scholar and I am liable to err.

I would however recommend The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom) by Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Mubarkpuri (RA) for all (Reverts, Born-Muslims, Non-Muslims etc.)

I attach a copy in English for all to read HOWEVER I must warn you that translation is NOT good & there are spelling mistakes; but hey! Its free! :)

I advise all to SPEND the money and buy the paper-copy as the translation is revised, lucid and accurate.

wa alaykum salam.

Yea i have this book, Masha'Allah it is really good. Haven't read all of it though :redface: it's got a lot of detail. Way back from the situation of the Arabs, the Arab tribes etc... to the proper Seerah and it has evidences and everything. I too think it's best for reading about the Life of the Prophet Muhammad :saw:

wasalam
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Asslamo Allaikum,

As I said previously that I am NOT a Scholar and I am liable to err.

I would however recommend The Sealed Nectar (Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtoom) by Shaykh Safiur-Rahman Mubarkpuri (RA) for all (Reverts, Born-Muslims, Non-Muslims etc.)

I attach a copy in English for all to read HOWEVER I must warn you that translation is NOT good & there are spelling mistakes; but hey! Its free! :)

I advise all to SPEND the money and buy the paper-copy as the translation is revised, lucid and accurate.


:salam2:
JazakAllah akhi.
Another link since bro GP said that the translation is not good

http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_tsn/index.htm
 
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