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gangstaat

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i have a friend who lives in the UK now before he was in pakistan. He told me he eat's mcdonalds all the time and not fish fillet but also chicken and big macs and stuff.
i told him not to eat it and he said "say Bismillah and eat it and nothing will happen" i didn't agreed with him though.
I know that chicked isn't made in islamic way of Zibah
they slaughter with a chop which is inacceptable in Islam.
Also alot of arab people i've seen eat kfc and mcdonalds and they say the same thing. 1 of my dad's cousin live in saudi arabia and he went to America and ate msdonald's
So tell me if saying Bismillah and eating it will make it halal?
 
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Jannah03

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Asalamu alakum from what i know, no its not, we all need to watch out for fried foods. They cook the fried foods in the SAME grease they cooked their sausage(pork) for breakfast and i would know i worked in McDonalds and Burger King. of course we are to say bismillah before we eat and drink or do anything but that doesnt make it halal(the food). what makes it halal is what Allah described in the Quran on halal foods.
 
xohanifaxo

xohanifaxo

one in a billion!!
Saalam

from what i've heard and known....ur not suppose to eat "american meat"....and ur not suppose to say bismillah if it's haram
 
kayleigh

kayleigh

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I've heard of it before.

I know a woman who studies hadith sciences. I heard someone ask her about this once and I overheard her explanation. She said that there is some evidence (though its not strong evidence) to support the opinion that if you say bismillah over any meat, it will automatically become halal and fine for you to eat. Not many people hold that opinion, though, and I think the evidence is stronger against it than for it. I'm not sure which hadiths people use to justify it.

Honestly, I think most people who use this justification just see it as a loop hole, and use it if people ask because they don't want to pass up the good food (well...not good in my opinion lol), but deep down they know it's wrong.

Maybe that guy from Saudi arabia just got used to eating halal McDonald's and then he forgot it's not halal in the US?

Either way, there's probably pork something mixed into McDonald's meat (cooking grease), and not to mention most of the meat isn't even normal meat - it's testicles and hooves and other parts you wouldn't want to knowingly eat, all mixed it.
 
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Mrmuslim

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salaam alikom

I think non of you who answered the brother is a scholar so dont say Yes its halal and dont say No its Haram you are not a scholar to answer any of these question. People try to jump and answer any question with or without knowledge there is a different opinion of scholars and shyokh on this issue dont try to judge and say the rulling by your self without evidence, dont say I heard some one saying that ...etc.

Go ask an scholar or bring an answer from well trusted shyikh or scholars.

# 2 In saudi Arabia it self they bring Meat from Swiss or other western countries and it says on top of it According to Islamic Law so did you see it by your eyes how did they do it, I can cut the meat and just put an stamp says its halaal so dose it mean is halaal ?

That why we need an opinion or answer of a scholar.


Wa jazaakom Allah khair


Salaam alikom
Wa salaaam alikom
 
IslamIsLight

IslamIsLight

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salam aleikum
Ok Im not a scholar either :) but can I just add something
Is it true that in US the animals killed with electrical shock and not slautered
Coz when u kill it with the shock ,the animal doesnt die right away ...
I dont know though if its true or not ....


waaleikum salam
 
kayleigh

kayleigh

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Mrmuslim said:
salaam alikom

dont say I heard some one saying that ...etc.
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I said I heard a knowledgeable woman explain what some people think, and explained the viewpoint. That's hardly a fatwa.

But...

On why such meat is not halal:
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=2492&CATE=127

as mentioned in the previous fatwa, the idea that simply saying bismillah may render the meat halal stems from a fatwa given by Imam Yusuf Qaradawi. More information on him/the issue can be found here:
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=445&CATE=29
 
IslamIsLight

IslamIsLight

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salam aleikum
There is one from islamic qa
InshaAllah will be helpfull

If a Muslim says the name of Allaah over the meat of the People of the Book, does this mean that it is permissible for him to eat it?

Question:
I very doubtfull about the fact that many muslims say that if a christian or a jew give you meat to eat, we must say basmala to make it halal. But the islam teaches us that what is haraam is still haraam, even there is a good intention (i.e. to say basmala)

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

The scholars agree unanimously that it is permissible to eat the meat of the People of the Book, Jews and Christians, if the name of Allaah is mentioned at the time of slaughter, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Eat not of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has not been pronounced (at the time of slaughtering of the animal)…” [al-An’aam 6:121]. If the person mentioned a name other than that of Allaah, such as the name of ‘Uzayr or of the Messiah, then it is not permissible to eat of it, because of the general meaning of the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “He has forbidden you… that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah.” [al-Baqarah 2:173].

It is also a condition that the meat should be slaughtered in the manner prescribed by sharee’ah. If it is known that the slaughter was not done in the proper Islamic manner, e.g., by strangulation or electric shock and so on, then it is haraam.

As for the claim that some make, that it is enough merely to mention the name of Allaah when eating, this was reported regarding some Muslims who were new in Islam. The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) asked the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about this, saying, “O Messenger of Allaah, some people who are new in Islam brought us some meat, and we do not know whether they mentioned the name of Allaah over it or not.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Say the name of Allaah over it and eat it.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari). The command should be understood as meaning that one should be on the safe side, provided that one does not know beforehand that the meat is not slaughtered properly. And Allaah knows best.



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Mrmuslim

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aisha1114 said:
salam aleikum
Ok Im not a scholar either :) but can I just add something
Is it true that in US the animals killed with electrical shock and not slautered
Coz when u kill it with the shock ,the animal doesnt die right away ...
I dont know though if its true or not ....


waaleikum salam
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salaam alikom

that not true not all slaughter house in U.S use the electrical shock, some of them slauter through machine, and some of the do the slaughter as Jews slaughter house.

# 2 If the non Muslim slaughtering and they dont metion the name of Allah ( I asked the shiekh here in our mosque ) he said it permissible but if he mention other name like in the name of Jessus its for sure haraam

#3 He (shiekh ) said, if a Muslim dont mention the name of Allah intentionally then the meat is not halaal

#4 Just so every one know a lot of Islamic Countries get the meat from Denmark or Swissra do you think they appointed a guy who stand there and say bismillah on each and every animal ?

# 5 I asked a shiekh in Saudia ( shiekh Ali Ba Dhadah) and he said did you see them how they slaughter by your own eyes ? if not then you can say Bismillah and eat but if you go and research and went to slaughter house where they get the meat from and saw they dont do the slaughtering or mention other name on the animal then IT WILL BE Haraam

#6 When you go and buy the meat from ARABIC or ISLAMIC store and they dont have slaughter house and they get thier meat from different place are you sure 100% the place slaghter each and every animal and say bismillah ?

#6A- I asked another shiekh ( shiekh Waleed Basioni) he is Saudi and studied on hand of well known Ualmaa in Saudi, he is Imam in TX, any way he said do you think each and every meat come to Saudi is halaal do you think for an example the chicken company in Saudi , that there is a Man standing beside machine and saying bismillah on each and every chicken been saluaghterd by machine ? he too said its OK to eat with saying Bismillah

NOTE: I am not saying that people who dont eat from outside non Muslim meat should eat .... NO that not my intention if you dont eat except Halaal meat from ISLAMIC store that great may Allah make you more stronger and I would rather take meat from Islamic store rather than wall mart. But the point here is not to make everything haraam if we dont know the rulling on this issue.


# 7 The other issue of not to Say bismillah on Haram meat?! ( well if its haram you wont eat first place) But if you mean you dont know if its halal meat like going to McD. and buying chicken sandwish and not saying Bisimillah that wrong!! because we supose to say Bismillah before eating anything.

#8 If its known for sure its Haram ( like pig, or Alkhol) these thing we dont supose to touch them in first place rather than arguing to mention Allah's name on them.

Wa Allah knows best. we were just talking about this topic today with the shiekh of our mosque.

w salaam alikom
 
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sajjuaiah

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if the name of Allaah is mentioned at the time of slaughter, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Eat not of that (meat) on which Allaah’s Name has not been pronounced (at the time of slaughtering of the animal)…” [al-An’aam 6:121].

As-salaam alaikum,

I my self was involved in such eating. (May Allah forgive me)

when i was on vacation to philippines i was having difficulty searching Halaal food, so i have eaten meat which Allah's name was not mentioned saying bismillah Ar-rahman Ar-Raheem.

When i back to saudi, i ask the sheikh is it allowed in such difficulty i can eat the forbidden meat by saying Bismillah.

He replied "BIG NO" .

Because i might stay alive eating veg. or fish.
or cut chicken or goat by my own and eat.

There were several options infront of me but still to make easy i eat:astag:

May Allah protect us from Haram eating.

Jazakmullah Hu-Khairan
 
kayleigh

kayleigh

Junior Member
In some slaughterhouses, they have an imam recite bismillah and stuff, then they just record it and loop it and play it over a loud speaker throughout the area as other people slaughter the animals, so there's never someone actually standing there and saying it. It just seems wrong for some reason, like they're taking the easy way out I guess.
 
zakiyah

zakiyah

muslim sis
gangstaat said:
i have a friend who lives in the UK now before he was in pakistan. He told me he eat's mcdonalds all the time and not fish fillet but also chicken and big macs and stuff.
i told him not to eat it and he said "say Bismillah and eat it and nothing will happen" i didn't agreed with him though.
I know that chicked isn't made in islamic way of Zibah
they slaughter with a chop which is inacceptable in Islam.
Also alot of arab people i've seen eat kfc and mcdonalds and they say the same thing. 1 of my dad's cousin live in saudi arabia and he went to America and ate msdonald's
So tell me if saying Bismillah and eating it will make it halal?
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no i dont think thats right.no way
something that is haram is haram reading bismillah wont make the food halal :eek:
wasalam
 
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