Muslims and Paradise .....

Islam!!yay

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I read somewhere that muslims shouldnt expect he'll go to paradise. What about if a muslim does a lot of good deeds and a lot of prayers Can he expect to go to paradise?
 

Salem9022

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only a Mu'min(believer) goes to Paradise. Not all Muslims are Believers(Mu'min) but all Believers(Mu'min) are Muslims.
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
:salam2:

I read somewhere that muslims shouldnt expect he'll go to paradise. What about if a muslim does a lot of good deeds and a lot of prayers Can he expect to go to paradise?

:salam2:

maybe this well help explain for you, brother ISLAMYAY
How will those who entered Hell then were brought forth from it enjoy Paradise?
The people who enter Jahanam and stay there for some time and then are removed and entered in Jannah. How will they enjoy Jannah being that they may remember their experience in Jahanaam (Post Traumatic Stress).

Praise be to Allaah.
Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah believe that some of the Muslims will enter Paradise without being brought to account or being punished, and some of them will enter Paradise after being brought to account, and some will enter Paradise after being punished in Hell as Allaah wills, then He will bring them forth from it.

The fact that these people are brought forth from Hell then admitted to Paradise will not cause them any sorrow or distress in Paradise, because Paradise is the abode of delight, and they will have whatever the other people of Paradise will have, as mentioned in the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

There is nothing in the evidence to suggest that these people will feel any kind of regret after entering Paradise due to the punishment that they experienced in Hell.

But the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has told us about how these people will be after they are brought forth from Hell. That includes the following:

1 – They will be thrown into the River of Life, and will grow anew.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When the people of Paradise enter Paradise and the people of Hell enter Hell, Allaah will say: ‘Whoever had a mustard-seed’s weight of faith in his heart, bring him out.’ So they will bring him out, and they will come out like burned skeletons, and they will turn into charcoal. They will be thrown into the River of Life, then they will grow like seeds growing in the silt left by a flood.”

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do you not see how they emerge yellow and curved?”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6192) and Muslim (184).

2 – The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated that they will change after they are brought forth from the Fire.

It was narrated from Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said of the Jahannamiyyoon (those who had been in Hell) that they “would be brought forth from the Fire after having been in it. They will come out as if they are branches of sesame. Then they will go into one of the rivers of Paradise, where they will wash themselves, then they will emerge like sheets of paper.”

Narrated by Muslim (191).

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The word sesame refers to the well-known sesame from which sesame oil is extracted. Imam Abu’l-Sa’aadaat al-Mubaarak ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Jazari, who is known as Ibn al-Atheer (may Allaah have mercy on him), said: What it means – and Allaah knows best – is that if the branches of sesame are gathered and left in the sun so that their seeds may be collected, they turn thin and black as if they have been burned, so these people are likened to them.

“then they will emerge like sheets of paper” They are likened to sheets of paper because they will be so white after they wash themselves and all the blackness that was on them is removed.

Sharh Muslim (3/52).

According to a report narrated by al-Bukhaari (6190):

It was narrated from Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “They will emerge from the Fire through intercession as if they are small cucumbers.”

Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

With regard to small cucumbers … What is meant is something that is white and small.

Note:

This likeness refers to how they will be after they grow. But when they first emerge from Hell they will be like charcoal as we shall see in the hadeeth below.

Fath al-Baari (11/429).

3 – They will become like pearls, and Allaah will bestow His good pleasure upon them, and He will never be angry with them.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah will say: ‘The angels have interceded, the Prophets have interceded and there is no one left but the Most Merciful of those who show mercy.’ Then He will take a handful from Hell, and will bring out people who never did any good and who will have turned into charcoal. He will throw them into a river on the outskirts of Paradise that is called the River of Life, and they will emerge like seeds in the silt carried by a flood. … They will emerge like pearls with jewels around their necks, and the people of Paradise will recognize them. These are the ones ransomed by Allaah, whom Allaah admitted to Paradise with no good deed that they did or sent on ahead. Then He will say: ‘Enter Paradise, and whatever you see is yours.’ They will say: ‘Our Lord, You have given us what You have never given to anyone else in creation.’ He will say: ‘You will have something better than that with Me.’ They will say, ‘O Lord, what could be better than this?’ He will say, ‘My good pleasure, for I will never be angry with you again.’”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7002) and Muslim (183).

This is an important hadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) points out the great status of those who are brought forth from Hell, and the honours that their Lord will bestow upon them by His grace and bounty, which include:

(a) Being thrown in the River of Life, and growing anew.

(b) Emerging from the river like pearls with jewels around their necks

(c) Being given everything that they see in Paradise.

(d) Their thinking, because of the blessings and the ultimate joy they experience, that Allaah has honoured them with something that He has not bestowed upon anyone else.

(e) He will bestow His pleasure upon them and never be angry with them again.

The honour that Allaah will bestow upon these people who enter Paradise is confirmed in the following hadeeth:

It was narrated from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “I know the last of the people of Hell to be brought forth, and the last of the people of Paradise to enter therein. It will be a man who will emerge crawling from Hell, and Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, will say to him: ‘Go and enter Paradise.’ He will come to it and it will appear to him to be full. He will go back and say, ‘O Lord, I found it full.’ Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, will say to him: ‘Go and enter Paradise.’ He will go to it and it will appear to him to be full. He will go back and say, ‘O Lord, I found it full.’ Allaah, may He be blessed and exalted, will say to him: ‘Go and enter Paradise, and you will have the equivalent of the whole world and ten times as much.’ He will say, ‘Are You mocking me – or laughing at me – when You are the Sovereign?’” He said: And I saw the Messenger of Allaah (S) smile so broadly that his molars appeared. And he said: “That will be the lowest of the people of Paradise in status.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6202) and Muslim (186).

4 – They will be known as al-Jahannamiyyoon (the hellish ones) or “ ‘utaqa’ al-Jabbaar” (those ransomed by the Compeller, i.e., Allaah), then this name will be lifted from them.

The name al-Jahannamiyyoon is the plural of jahannami, i.e., hellish (of or pertaining to Hell), What is meant is that Allaah has ransomed them from Hell.

It was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Some people will be brought forth from the Fire after its flames touch them (and change their colour), then they will be admitted to Paradise, and the people of Paradise will call them al-Jahannamiyyoon.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6191).

Ahmad (12060) narrated from Anas: “… they will enter Paradise and the people of Paradise will say: These are al-Jahannamiyyoon.” But al-Jabbaar (the Compeller – Allaah) will say: ‘No, rather they are the ones ransomed by al-Jabbaar, may He be glorified and exalted.’”

Classed as saheeh by Ibn Mandah in al-Eemaan (2/847); Ibn Khuzaymah (2/710) and al-Albaani in Hukm Taarik al-Salaah (p. 33).

Ibn Hibbaan narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri: “… In Paradise they will be called al-Jahannamiyyoon, because of the blackness on their faces, and they will say: ‘Our Lord, take this name away from us.’ So He will command them to wash themselves in a river in Paradise and will take that away from them.”

Narrated and classed as saheeh by Ibn Hibbaan (16/457). It was also classed as saheeh by Shu’ayb al-Arna’oot.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has told us that one dip in Paradise will cause the Muslim to forget all hardship that he faced in this world, so how about if Paradise is to be his eternal abode? It is not farfetched to assume that this also includes the hardship that the Muslim faced when he was in Hell.

It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The most affluent of the people in this world, of those who will go to Hell, will be brought on the Day of Resurrection and dipped once in the Fire. Then it will be said: O son of Adam, did you ever see anything good? Did you ever have any pleasure? He will say: No, by Allaah, O Lord. Then the most destitute of the people in this world, of those who will enter Paradise, will be brought and dipped once in Paradise, and it will be said to him: O son of Adam, did you ever see anything bad? Did you ever experience any hardship? He will say: No, by Allaah, O Lord. I never saw anything bad and I never experienced any hardship.”

Narrated by Muslim (2807)

Another indication that one dip in the bliss of Paradise will take away all hardship that came before it, even the hardship of being punished in Hell, in addition to what we have mentioned of their forms being changed after they are thrown into the River of Life, is the report narrated by Muslim (2836) from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) who said: “Whoever enters Paradise will enjoy bliss and will not be miserable, his clothes will not wear out and his youth will not fade.”

This blessing confirms that misery will be erased for the one who enters Paradise, and it is general in meaning and includes everyone who enters it, whether they entered Hell beforehand or not.

Al-Qaadi said: What this means is that Paradise is the abode of stability and blessing which will not change or be disturbed by any hardship or corruption. Quoted in Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi (7/194).

For all of these reasons, Allaah tells us about the condition of the people of Paradise when they enter it:

“And they will say: ‘All the praises and thanks be to Allaah Who has removed from us (all) grief. Verily, our Lord is indeed Oft‑Forgiving, Most Ready to appreciate (good deeds and to recompense).

35. Who, out of His Grace, has lodged us in a home that will last forever, where toil will touch us not nor weariness will touch us’”

[Faatir 35:34-35]

Shaykh al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: i.e., the home of eternal abode, the home where one will want to stay forever, because of the many good things therein, and because of the ongoing delight and because there is nothing to disturb this pleasure.

That is “out of His Grace” towards us and His Bounty, not because of our deeds. Were it not for His Grace, we would not have reached the point we have reached.

“where toil will touch us not nor weariness will touch us” i.e., there will be no tiredness in body, heart or strength, or because of an abundance of pleasures. This indicates that Allaah will make their bodies physically perfect and will create all means of making their abode there one of continuous delight and pleasure, so that they will not be touched by toil or weariness, or by worry or sorrow.

Tafseer al-Sa’di (689).

And Allaah knows best
:wasalam:
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
So If I keep Asking Allah for forgiveness I can still go to hell?

:salam2:

i think it depends on how sincere your tawbah was. i'll admit that i have done sins and made tawbah and i had repeated the same sins. that troubles me because if i keep doing them, then how sincere is my tawbah. remember, that we need to make tawbah and turn away from the sin and make an effort to not do them again.

ALLAH SWT knows best
:wasalam:
 

palestine

Servant of Allah
It's not our deeds that place in paradise. It's the mercy of Allah. Now you might wonder why then do we "waste" our time praying and doing good deeds. and the prophet s.a.w told us why. His wife asked him, "o rasulullah, why do you stand up praying all night when Allah has already forgiven your past and your future and has promised you paradise", and he replied: "should i not be a thankful servant". it's not exactly word for word. so we do good deeds to thank Allah. even our eyesight does not equal the amount of dhikhr we do. So its by the MERCY OF ALLAH that we go to jannah, not OUR DEEDS. but this doesn't mean that we should stop doing good deeds. we have to continue to show Allah we are grateful servants of His.
asalamu alaykum wrwb
 

AleahKoto

Allah will decide
Just Because You are a Muslim....

I think the brother is asking, in other words, "Just because a person is a Muslim they shouldn't expect to go to paradise."

Some think that being Muslim is enough, but you must live Islam, and be sincere in your heart, and not let arrogance enter in. Once you let the arrogance enter in and say, "I am Muslim, so I get paradise," then you have committed a great sin.

Even Jews, Christians and Sabeans will go to paradise, if they believe and do right and follow the straight path and there are many who do. Paradise is not just for Muslims, but for all believing persons. (Those who sincerely believe in one God and doing the right thing.)
 

abuayesha

Junior Member
Assalaamu Alaikum warahmathullaahi wabarakaathuhu


إِنَّ اللَّهَ لا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ وَمَنْ يُشْرِكْ بِاللَّهِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلالا بَعِيدًا
Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the Right).
Al-Qur'an 4:116​

So, it is clear that we will be eligible for forgiveness if we do not associate partners with Allaah. And Allaah forgives those who He pleases with and He punishes those who He does not please with. Therefore, we take a solemn pledge with Him that we would never associate partners with Him and we ask Him to forgive our sins and grant all of us Jannath al-Firdous. Alhamdulillaah, wassalaathu wassalaamu alaa Muhammadin wa alaa aali Muhammadin kamaa sallaaitha alaa Ibraaheema wa alaa aali Ibraaheema innaka Hameedun Majeed.

Wassalaam
 

nasiruyola

Junior Member
So If I keep Asking Allah for forgiveness I can still go to hell?

SALAMU ALAIKUM WARAHAMATULLAH
MY VERY GOOD BROTHER, MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ON THIS TOPIC BUT IN ADDTION TO ALL THAT: ONE HAS TO BE BETWEEN HOPE AND FEAR SO AS TO REMAIN RIGHTEOUS SERVANT OF ALLAH. FEAR SO THAT HE/SHE AVOIDS DISOBEYING ALLAH AND HOPE FOR ALLAH'S MERCY AND DO RIGHTEOUS DEEDS.
ALSO NO ONE KNOW THE FINAL END AS THE END IS THE DETERMINING FACTOR AND NO BODY KNOWS THE END. MAY ALLAH PROTECT US FROM KUFR (DISBELIEF) NIFAQ (HYPOCRICY) AND SINS.
HOPE THIS WILL MAKE FURTHER THE POINTS CLEAR.
 

khansahil

Junior Member
asalamalikum

v usefull information but i dunt think it will be to easy it will take more dan billion trillion years in hell dan we our sin's will be forgiven the sahabi's were already told by prophet mohammad(pbuh) ur already forgiven n allah(swt) has granted u jannah but they were alwayz n every time wer afraid of wat they gona answar n alwayz asked forgiveness from allah(swt)
 

abu turaab

Junior Member
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I read somewhere that muslims shouldnt expect he'll go to paradise. What about if a muslim does a lot of good deeds and a lot of prayers Can he expect to go to paradise?

:salam2: just very brief!!..brother it's not like that...muslims shouldn't expect to go to paradise!!.Infact the basic essence of Qur'an is to incite muslims to do good to seek HIS pleasure(& the ultimate form of which is Jannah!)...but there must be something inside us...like an alarm which is to prevent us from commiting vice,..and it's reffered to as nafs-al-lawama in Qur'an.Had it be not there..or if a muslim weakens it...the result would be that he would not care of commiting sins...and in short,at the end of the day he'd meet ALLAH with enough of bad deeds and a very few of good ones...and when the deeds would be weighed the good ones would be dumped by the bad ones!!..and the result??....may ALLAH save us from such ending!..Aameen!!
now as far as asking for forgiveness for sins!...Yes surely ALLAH forgives all the sins even if they fill the space b/w earth and heaven....BUT..there are conditions...and the prime of which is...not to repeat the sins again!!..now if one asks for forgiveness just to get rid of the frustation he's experiencing because of sins...and after ALLAH makes his heart light and calm as accepting his repentance, again he jumps into the same thing not fearing ALLAH'S anger or even considering HIS favor...and eventualy dies with the same way of living...then no doubt he has died a munafiq!...la haola wa-la Quwata illah Billah!
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
I think the brother is asking, in other words, "Just because a person is a Muslim they shouldn't expect to go to paradise."

Some think that being Muslim is enough, but you must live Islam, and be sincere in your heart, and not let arrogance enter in. Once you let the arrogance enter in and say, "I am Muslim, so I get paradise," then you have committed a great sin.

Even Jews, Christians and Sabeans will go to paradise, if they believe and do right and follow the straight path and there are many who do. Paradise is not just for Muslims, but for all believing persons. (Those who sincerely believe in one God and doing the right thing.)

Jews and christians and sabeans dont go to Paradise where did you get that from? Only Muslims go to Paradise, this is even in the Quran. also just because you believe in One God doesnt mean you go to Paradise, even Iblees believes in One God but he isnt going to Paradise even the Hindus believe in One God but they believe in 36 billion Manifestation of that One God, even the Pagan Arabs before the Prophet believed in One God Allah but they put interrsessors with Allah. you should really try to re-read the Quran and the Books of Tawheed because this is a big problem that you have with this brother.
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
Jews and christians and sabeans dont go to Paradise where did you get that from? Only Muslims go to Paradise, this is even in the Quran. also just because you believe in One God doesnt mean you go to Paradise, even Iblees believes in One God but he isnt going to Paradise even the Hindus believe in One God but they believe in 36 billion Manifestation of that One God, even the Pagan Arabs before the Prophet believed in One God Allah but they put interrsessors with Allah. you should really try to re-read the Quran and the Books of Tawheed because this is a big problem that you have with this brother.

All muslims eventually go to Jannah( this is true).
What about those who Jews and Christians who did not receive the message??:SMILY139:
 

Salem9022

Junior Member
All muslims eventually go to Jannah( this is true).
What about those who Jews and Christians who did not receive the message??:SMILY139:

why only jews and christians? what about those who arnt jews and christians and live in the amazon rain forest or something?
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
^ Think about it bro, do they testify that there is none worthy of worship but Allaah (s) AND the Muhammad :saw: is his last and final messenger?
 
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