Questions on Shariah Law

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    Asalaam walaikum,

    You have not offended me, whatsoever. The nature of prophet hood is to be forgiving. Jesus also had a temper. When debating Christians ask them how they explain his anger at the temple and the disgust he had for the shopkeepers. He broke the stalls. Jesus upheld the Law.

    Sister, the western laws are Judeo-Christian by nature. All the laws in the US, Australia, the Commonwealth countries are under the auspices of the British Registry. Funny stuff.

    Do not let anyone tell you that the laws are independent. This just shows their ignorance. Jesus never repealed the Law of Retribution. An eye for an eye. There is debate currently about the Law of Retribution and its good to the Law of Rehabilitation. Our penal code is the law of retribution. What does suing mean?

    And bear in mind the law as it is applied in the US is unjust and unfair. I will not read the emotional unfounded opinions that some have posted.

    Furthermore, those Christians who are debating about the ills of Islam forget that they are not doing anything to uphold the laws of Jesus. Do you really think Jesus would incarcerate a man for life for marijuana? What does that have anything to do with being a good moral person? Where is the Christhood when those debating with you allow swat teams to kill innocents. You kill a homeless man because he has a knife? You shoot the witness and kill him?

    Jesus was not a pansy. He was a prophet of Allah. He was firm. Those who debate with you need to learn about their faith first.

    Islam is the religion that Allah has decreed for us.
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    sis Lightfornur,I understand your point of view,but Allah punished what homsexuals did in Sodoma and Gomorra,without asking to Himself if they were normal or not.they just disobeyed to Allah's order.I can accept if a homosexual knows Islam and change his way asking forgiveness,but it's unforgiveable to see two people of the same gender kissing their mouths and judge them normal.what can our children learn from this?so we should allow such a shame and surrender when kuffar say that niqab is against the freedom or it doesn't respect the code of dressing in a modern society?I'm sorry but I don't like omosexuality as I don't like hypocrisy,and in this society it is too much.the Sharyia Law is right.if I allow my son to make a crime and protect him from the trial,I'm going against the law,so it would be better for me to abandon Islam...And I'll never do it:wasalam::tti_sister:I however respect your opinion,don't be offended please:hearts:
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    Wa'alaikumussalam all. Forgive me for replying so, so late! I had a major examination and had to focus my energy towards it. I've had quote a bit of private messages and I have to work on them too.

    Very interesting fact about law! Christians say that they believe in the "turning the other cheek" thing. I recognize that at the end of the day, the one more effective would be retribution, but when my iman goes dipping down, I felt that turning the cheek was peaceful-er. I have a vague understanding about how exactly the current law relates or translates precisely from Christianity, so I can't argue or question much here. Thank you for the clarification!

    Good point about Sodom and Gomorra. I do think however, that we simply don't know what Allah thought. We just know that the punishment was carried out. We do know that in Shariah Law there is punishment, as Muslims. And I have to be honest, I accept this, but I struggle with punishment in the form of severe pain and ultimately, death. Astaghfirullah-al-azim. I do hope someone can enlighten me and help me change my point of view.

    Don't worry, sis! I'm not offended! *Hugs* :)
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    Assalaam walaikkum,

    First thing sister: Slow down!!!

    If I understand you correctly the major issue you seem to want clarification is simply this: how do Muslims execute the laws of Allah when they seem to be cruel and harsh.

    If I am correct let me know and we can continue. If I am wrong lets get to square one because you are everywhere and nowhere right now.
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    Wa'alaikumussalam.

    Sorry! Maybe I'm rushing into things so fast! ;)

    Yes, you're right! Basically it's like this, like I mentioned in the first post:

    1)Why does Shariah Law have to be torture before death?/Painful death?/Death in a very painful way?

    3)I've heard the church burnings of before were done to save the burning person from the even more dangerous "fires of Hell." And then they say Islam wants the accused to be saved from an even greater danger (Hell), which is why the rapist for example, has to be set to death.

    6)What does "stoning" mean?

    7)Why doesn't Islam offer rehabilitation for homosexuals? I'm not making my own rules, btw. Why is it stoning instead? What is the validity of this:

    "Maududi vol. 2, p. 52, note 68):

    . . . Ibn Abbas ruled that they be thrown headlong from the highest summit."

    These were my core questions but they came back to the same thing - how would my belief fare if I saw these punishments carried out? Right now I could accept the truth and accept the wisdom behind it in its theory, but if I saw it with my own eyes, could I still believe in Allah's Compassion? *Astaghfirullah-al-azim*

    Basically it is as you mentioned; about the harshness of the actions. Lots of people I've seen reject Islam because of this. I'd like to explain to them clearly as well as clear my own doubts, if you know what I mean. I still have strong faith in Allah. It's just that doubts come back and forth. And I mentioned this, too:

    "I infer to myself that Alhamdulillah, Allah Loves me and is giving me guidance. But then again, isn't that what other people of different faiths say when we offer them the message of Islam?"

    Again, I stress that it is not my intention to mislead or offend, nau'uzubillah. :O
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    as-salam 'alaykum warahmatu-llahi wa barakatuhu


    may Allah subhanahu wa ta'la help us to understand His religion.

    Alhamdu li Allah.

    why do we like the things that we suppose to dislike, I'm saying in general, not just at your statement.

    the earth belongs to Allah and His way should be applied. if we are claiming that we are Mu'min, even then we sometimes try to justify our feelings which are not even our Fitra, moreover, it is taught by others, the kuffars. just take my lines as general, not directed to you.

    Al-wala and al-bara, Love for the sake of Allah, hate for the sake of Allah.
    if the niyah(intention) and the sake of Allah doesn't exists, then what is the difference between a kafir and a muslim to keep his beard, subhan Allah.

    I'm giving you a small example, i hope that would be enough.

    In south-east asia, there are a lot of bidah is being practiced.
    so I was with one of my friend, and we left the mosque (co-incidence) just while the bidah was just started.

    so my friend told me: isn't it being cruel, that we are leaving just right now, what will they thing (as we are well-known)...

    however, I said: subhan Allah, thousand times cruel is the practice which is now being done, and we should not care what they think.



    I know I'm not that expert in writing, but I tried my level best, just try and think deeply, why we have to follow those or their teaching, who are not even from our part of Ummah, our hijacked religion and the teachings are being inflicted by the kuffar, in hearts of the Ummah, but the religion is His, He surely gonna protect us.

    one more example:

    one of my friend, just back from UK, after his graduation. we were having dinner in a restaurant, and three of us were eating with our hands, and he started with spoon and fork. (alhamdu li Allah, eating with spoon and fork is nowhere forbidden in islam)

    so i just said:lets start with hand, insha Allah, he said: actually no my friend, when I was living with my friend in dorm in UK, they said me: what you filthy asian, you eat with hands and wide open your mouth....bla bla, so I have stopped eating with hands.

    I said: so now we have to take suggestion from them, who don't even clean their private parts, don't clean themselves after physical relations, who are dipped in alcohol and other intoxicant.

    is this the state of Ummah, if this is the state, then compare it with the time of sahaba radhiAllahu anhum, when people used to come and say: how can we be like you? how did Abdullah bin Hudhafa radhi Allahu anhu was freed by the roman emperor?


    subhan Allah

    may Allah azza wa jal help us to understand His religion and love the things that He loves and hate the things that He dislikes.

    Jazakum Allahu khair
    wassalam
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    Assalaamu Alaykom sister.

    This is where you need to draw the line. The servitude of the people to Allaah azza wa jal is that they do not question Allaah's judgement. The 'Aqeedah of the believers is that acceptance of Allaah's rules is not conditional upon understanding. And if it were then that is undoubtedly shirk. Associating partners with Allaah. Because you have given your mentality and perception of the universe greater superiority than that of Allaah's, tabaraka wa ta'la.

    Secondly this matter has no impact on your life. Other than give you something to discuss with your friends, but that is the problem of the world today. Islam is being discussed at coffee shops like its a movie or a news story, when it is more sensitive than open heart surgery. Imam Ahmad may Allaah have mercy on him never gave away Islamic rulings cheaply, and when an idler would ask him a question that had no bearing on his life Ahmad would refuse to answer.

    The prophet :saw: promised the one who guarantees whats between his two beards and legs paradise. And he :saw: also said that a man would utter a word displeasing to Allaah that would result in him being thrown into the hellfire for 70 years.

    Islam is perfect. Allaah tabaraka wa ta'ala gave it to us so that we could rule the world. And in the world are people like you, who are gentle and peace loving. And in the world there are sick psychos and mentally ill people. Whatever the disease, there is a cure in Islam to lead the people to a peaceful and just world.

    And there is no greater speech than that of Allaah the Most High:

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    And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

    They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

    It is He who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although those who associate others with Allah dislike it.


    You are welcome to study and explore this matter to satisfy your curiosity, but with due respect to Allaah, His rulings, the ahaadith and the scholars. And it should be a one way journey: you don't pick and choose. You learn and you accept, and you thank Allaah for guiding you to His Straight Path.
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    :salam2:

    "I infer to myself that Alhamdulillah, Allah Loves me and is giving me guidance. But then again, isn't that what other people of different faiths say when we offer them the message of Islam?"

    But sister you have to remember that someone can think they are guided when he/she is obliviously in error, so my point is, true guidance only comes from Allah because Allah says in the Quran "And whomsoever Allah wills to guide, He opens his breast to Islam; and whomsoever He wills to send astray, He makes his breast closed and constricted, as if he is climbing up to the sky. Thus Allah puts the wrath on those who believe not.)" At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what a kaafir's argument is, you just have to present Islam to him/her, we cannot force anyone to accept Islam. Allah is the only One who has the ability to guide people and make them accept Islam.

    For most non-Muslims, they will just argue with no intention of even opening up their hearts. They just want to argue for argument's sake and because they just feel emotional about certain aspects of shariah law. How do we know we are rightly guided? because we have the Quran, which is never contradictory, unlike other religious holy books. Islam is straightforward and does not sugar-coat things, whereas other religious scripts have been written and changed so many times by people to just please themselves.

    Actually if you look at this from a different angle, you will know that this is the beauty and authenticity of Islam(the things that seem to people to be too harsh but never can be changed). No one can ever change the Quran. If it was up to some Muslims, they would've changed the Quran a long time ago and they would've became just like the Christians who the verses of the bible which they think is "too harsh" or too confusing to please themselves and those criticizing them. But of course Allah protects the Quran, so no one will ever change it.
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    Assalamu Aleykum sister.

    Criminals would understand that they won't, "just die" by doing evil crimes (like murder, rape, etc.) and since they know that they would get stoned, kicked/lashed to death, then that would increase their fear of committing crimes.

    If the victim forgives the one who attacked them, then it would be alright (if the attacker repents and doesn't do the action again). As for murder, then the murderer must be excecuted, or they/their family must play Diya, or blood money (the amount of cash for 100 camels).



    As for the rapist/adulterer, they WILL (Inshallah) be forgiven, if they made Tawbah and sincerely begged Allah (SWT) to forgive them. But if they didn't have any regret/remorse/guilt in their heart for their sin, then they will be punished in the hereafter because of it.

    There are differant opinions. One is that the apostasy rule came in because the Yahood of Medinah would accept Islam (only to leave it later on), so that they could cause doubt into the hearts of the Beleivers, and thus, their reason for "entering" the religion was only to cause Fitnah and to destroy Islam.

    Another thing, is that under an Islamic State, there are two types of citizens which have a sanctity over their life: The Mumineen, and Dhimmi (the non-Muslim citizens of the Islamic State).

    And so if an innocent Mumin/Dhimmi were to be hurt/murdered, then their blood must be avenged. But as for the apostate, then they have no sanctity on their life, and they are murdered, then the one's in authority (of the Islamic State) are not obliged to avenge their blood (unless the apostate's tribe forces them too, etc.)

    The wisdom is that the people who witness the Hudud being carried out will scare criminals/sinners from committing those deeds, which bring a LARGE amount of harm upon the society.

    it's when one has stones thrown at them till they die, etc.

    The punishment in Islam is for the SODMIZERS, not the mere-homosexuals. The homosexuals CAN and SHOULD be rehabilitized, but the sodomizers are guilty of doing an action which is extremely DISGUSTING.
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    Assalaam walaikum,

    The harshness


    He who is the most Merciful, Most Compassionate..He who Gives Creation Life...He who answers our supplication...He who Rules the Heavens, the Earth, and the Hells...

    He who is Wisdom. He who is Just...

    There is no harshness when we contemplate His Beautiful Names.

    I gave your question some thought..Contemplate on His Beautiful Names. Take an hour and contemplate. Read His Attributes and let that settle into your heart.

    Doubts are erased when knowledge and understanding take their place.
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    Wa'alaikumussalam everyone.

    I agree with you. However, I am in the process of discovering myself and I acknowledge Islam is my way. I want to be sure that Islam will always be my path, as well as settle curiosities and help clarify to others who are in much greater doubt than I am. Faith, for me, is very important as it determines my destination in the Hereafter. Therefore, since I believe Islam is the perfect religion, I want to destroy my doubts once and for all with knowledge.

    I'm sorry, brother, but this has every impact on my life. This is a matter of defending my faith from people who want to accuse it, and helping others who want to understand it. But the struggle of the heart comes first and I want to be free of confusion. This topic is hotly debated, and I have chosen my belief, Islam, so I've got to make sure I know my stuff. :)

    Thank you for your kind words and for for putting up that verse! It was very beautiful, plus it gave me reassurance! Don't worry brother, I'm not picking and choosing. I'm merely wanting to understand and learn. I've long understood that in Islam, you've got to accept everything, not cherry pick things. Which is why I want to make sure, that yes, this is the religion for me, and that when I go to sleep, I will not have to worry about dying in the religion that won't carry me to Paradise. :D

    Alhamdulillah, you answered one HUGE major question for me. It got me thinking, then why did I ask these questions again if the answers were reight in front of me? Well, I remembered that just as people from other faiths see errors but don't want to admit it, I'm afraid that I too am refusing to see the "errors" that other people are pointing out to me. (I'm not saying there is any errors in Islam, I'm saying these doubts and questions of mine are making it seem as if there are errors).

    Again you've answered another question, Alhamdulillah! :) Thank you VERY much! The thing about me is that I like to remain open-minded because I don't want to fall into the traps of being too sentimental and overcome (no offense, I'm not directing this towards anyone!) until I can see and choose the truth for myself. And Islam is the way for me. But, like I mentioned, I have dilemmas ...

    I agree. What do you say to people, though, who think that the Shariah Law are "Draconian" and medieval, and is unable to fit into the modern times, and can never be progressive? (Nau'zubillah)

    Ah! OK.

    Just out of curiosity, if the murderer was too poor, would he killed? And if he was too rich, would he be able to get away? Another thing - will people be able to use this to their advantage, and say, blackmail or bribe people into paying a sum according to their wishes for payback?


    I can definitely see Allah's Compassion in this, but will they automatically get a place in Heaven if they are sincere? Another thing, isn't this similar to the church burnings thing I brought up?

    This is a great explanation, Alhamdulillah! :) Just one thing, were idol-worshipers killed if they did not convert? (This is not said out of ignorance, this is merely a question because I read somewhere that kafir dhimmi were People of the Book?) I mean, the people who were not people of the Book, but who did no harm to Muslims.

    What is the strongest opinion on apostasy? And the majority?

    I read, correct me if I'm wrong, that stoning in Shariah Law is by putting a huge (boulder? wall?) upon a person so that it is instant death (?) and lesser pain(?). And the website said that throwing stones was a cultural thing. I disagreed, but I wonder if it was true. And I think it has actually been carried out that way, once or twice. I've got to dig this up again, I'm not sure.

    I DID NOT KNOW THIS! :D Alhamdulillah and thank you! I thought homosexuals or sodomizers were the ones to be punished! Because almost everywhere I've read that homosexuals had to be punished! Any factual proof please? Verses, hadith? Thanks very much!

    "Doubts are erased when knowledge and understanding take their place."

    Exactly what I'm trying to do! :D I will definitely take your advice, Insha'Allah. It's just that there have been so many negative perceptions about Islam and its methods, that it's disheartening and makes one wonder. I'd like to link the wisdom of these punishments to Allah's Names, but I'm scared that I might misinterpret Allah's Compassion and be further doubted. I just don't think I can get rid of the images of the remaining bodies of the punished when I think of Shariah Law. (Astaghfirullah-al-azim). I don't know whether I have the strength or iman.
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    Assalaam walaikum,

    OK...lets try this:

    Our deeds are not physical. The merit of a deed is not tangible. You may see the fruits of the labor but the deed itself is for the Love and Fear of Allah.

    Those who break the Law of Allah are not only causing physical harm to another or themselves but are also breaking spiritual tenets. There is more than a physical reaction to a sin. It is the stuff we have a hard time putting our fingers on...the yucky feeling that lasts a long time..we can call it guilt. You can take a million baths and that nasty feeling does not go away.

    Shariah gives us the punishments that are appropriate for any behavior.

    We can not, and this is so hard to understand, feel guilty for a person who is punished. The person knowingly and willingly has broken an ordinance of Allah's.

    We, as Muslims, are told to enjoin good and forbid evil. If a person continues on the path of destruction, it is a choice they make. There is no way around it. The Criteria for good and evil has been delivered by the Prophet to us. We know what is right and good. It is plain and simple. The Law is for Muslims. We know better. We are given the rules and regulations. We are told to pray, make zakat, give sadaqua, fast etc. We are told to give charity such that the left hand does not know what the right hand has done. We are to wish for our neighbors that we wish for ourselves. The burden of believe is our individual choice. We are also told of what happens when we step outside of the correct path. We are not ignorant.

    The person always has a choice. They can repent.
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    Assalamu Aleykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakaathuh sister.

    Actually sister, the decision of execution/Diya is based upon two groups:

    1.) The family/tribe of the victim
    2.) The family/tribe of the one who is guilty

    If the victim's family wants the murder/guilty person to be murdered, then he must be murdered. And if they decide to accept Diya (blood money), then the murder must pay the Diya. If he can't, then it is upon HIS family or tribe, and if THEY can't pay it, then (they would have to loan money to pay the Diya, or) the murder will get executed.

    And also, if the murderer killed someone by mistake (and if there was enough evidence to support that), then the murderer would only have to pay (or borrow a loan to pay off) the Diya, and he won't have to get executed.

    And as far as I know, if the murder was rich and able to pay Diya, they would still get prosecuted, by prison, house arrest, in order to prevent others from doing that sin.

    But remember sister, Diya is equal to 100 camels, and a camel is atleast about $1000 (and maybe can go up to $2000 on average), and so the Diya would cost about $100,000-$200,000 (which doesn't sound so good for someone to "get away with").

    And actually, the final decision is also based upon a Qadhi (caw-dee) (a Judge's) decision.

    Well, I don't know about the "church burnings" (but Christians generally don't even understand their Aqeedah or Core Beleifs in a rational way, so I wouldn't trust their opinions in "saving people from Hell," LoL.)

    But if a Mumin did a big sin, sincerely asked for forgiveness and sincerely repented and changed their ways, then Allah (SWT) is forgiving. And as far as I remember, if wanted Allah (SWT) to forgive them for their sin (like adultery, fornication, drinking, stealing) and they turn themself in, then they would be automatically forgiven, and depending upon their sincerity, they would actually get rewarded also (and it's based on a Hadith from al-Bukhari).



    The originial Dhimmi were from Ahlul Kitab (Jews and Christians), but as far as I know, it also included the Mushrikeen outside of the Arabian Peninsula (and their condition was that they could not keep their idols and practice their rituals openly, that it HAD to be inside their homes).

    And as for the idol-worshippers getting killed, then that is only true on one point, and we must understand:

    1.) The Mushrikeen of the Arabian Peninsula

    The Mushrikeen of the Arabian Peninsula were all descendants of Ibrahim (AS) through Ismail (AS) and his children/descendants. And Ismail (AS) and his righteous grandchildren ordered their families to worship Allah (SWT) alone and perform Hajj. It was after some thousands of years (after the death of Ismail [AS]) that idolatry began in amongst Ismail (AS)'s descendants, and that happened through one man (I forgot what his name was though).

    After that, the descendants of Ismail (AS) starting making idols around
    al-Kabah, and worship them, even though they would go for Hajj yearly.

    For more information, I suggest reading Seerah Ibn Isshaaq:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/16068222/Sirat-Ibn-Hisham

    And so during the last years of Rasulallah (SAW)'s life, the Mushrikeen of the Arabian Peninsula (who would perform Hajj and were descendants of Ismail AS) HAD to accept Islam, or they would be sacked.

    If i were you, I would actually ask a real scholar on this issue.

    Apostacy is of two types: Turning one's back on the religion, and turning one's back on religious obligations (like Zakat and Prayer).

    If one did any of the above and was caught, then they would have to re-accept Islam and make Tawbah, and then it would be accepted (like during the time of Abu Bakr (RA), when the Apostate Tribe Leaders surrendered to him).

    I would ask a scholar on this issue, and I would also look into the opinions of the four main Mazhaahib also.

    I beleive it was in Sahih Muslim, where Rasulallah (SAW) stated: "If you find two men doing what the tribe of Loot did (sodomy), then kill the one who is doing the act and the one who the act is being done too (unless the one who is being sodomized is being raped by the sodomizer)."


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    Asalama Aleikum

    my dear sister if you truly want to strengthen your faith you should increase your knowledge of the deen.remember ignorance is our biggest enemy not only does it lead us to darkness it also handicaps the intelect. here is a very inspiring qoute from william shakespear;

    Ignorance is the curse of God; knowledge is the wing wherewith we fly to heaven.


    my point is if you don't learn your religion which is obligatory for every muslim then you will always suffer from doubts.
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    Wa'alaikumussalam everyone.

    I guess sis, your answer is supposed to be the wisdom and heart of the matter. Thanks very much for simplifying it. I guess at the end of the day, no one can really understand Shariah Law, because it is Allah's Law, and we only know the wisdom behind it. I guess my questions were geared towards the method of doing it.

    Thanks for this explanation! Islam is really thorough. I asked, because really, the rich could get away with it. But since a Qadhi is there, then everything's fine, I guess. The Qadhi's job would be to regulate the fee that had to be paid, according to the financial means of a person, is it? And is that 100 camels a set amount?


    When you say 'rewarded', do you mean rewarded heaven? Oh yes, and lately I've thought about it, too. If the way the punishment was carried out was not severe, maybe a suicidal person (no offense and no accusations intended since this problem varies) would give up and kill themselves since the killing method is an easy way out. But wait a second, that would only work for ... suicidal people? OK, my theory is a crack one. Sorry, sorry. :D

    Alhamdulillah, this was an informative explanation, thanks.

    I don't get this part though ...

    "And so during the last years of Rasulallah (SAW)'s life, the Mushrikeen of the Arabian Peninsula (who would perform Hajj and were descendants of Ismail AS) HAD to accept Islam, or they would be sacked."

    Was it because they violated rights and were killed, or was this because they were merely worshiping idols?

    But what if they were Muslims and did not pray, not because they didn't believe, but because of lack of faith and lack of effort to gain guidance? I mean, people like that are in abundance now, aren't they? And some who were lost from faith and who did not do zakah ... does this apply to what you said? I would like to ask an experienced scholar, and I probably will, Insha'Allah, but first I want to know the views of others on this forum, Insha'Allah. :) Everything's really informative here.

    I really never knew this! :) Thanks so so much!

    That is a great quote right there, but sis, truly, the reason I'm putting these questions are to erase my doubts and to learn. Otherwise, how would I get rid of the doubts? :) It is like sis Appa said:

    Doubts are erased when knowledge and understanding take their place.
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    hayat84 I'm not what you believe

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    just for the cronicle,what will I answer to my children,if one day they ask me "hey mum,why are those two women/men kissing each other in front of everybody?"this is embarassing and disgusting.many people feel to be "different" from others,because they need something or they had a bad life.some days ago I saw on tv that a priest was making something Haram,(-every image was censored,it was a reportage made by a journalist who wanted to show the reality in the church- and against human nature through the webcam.homosexuality in the church s maybe the worst thing in nature,because it involves priests and young guys,who "accept" to have haram things in exchange for money.homosexuals need to be punished,I agree with Sharia Law,because it is Allah's Will:astag:
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    Assalaam walaikum,

    The methods.

    Read up on how dangerous lethal injections are. The electric chair ( and I saw one ) are horrible. The smell of burnt flesh remains in the building for a day!!
    Did you know in the US you can still be hung?

    How is a punishment quick if you languish in prison on death row for twenty five years.

    Does this help?

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