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    Salaam Brother Mosabja
    I am not against Shariah, but you just said stop them forcefully. but you're looking at Paki Gov doing the forcing not the students.
    Were those students not given warnings and options?
    They flatout denied every single option.
    any Gov on the other hand does not bring islam when they are to do anything that maynot be legal. But in the name of islam if someone is to do nagitive things and then call yourself as an islamic soldier and that what was done is based on islam, In other words holding islam responsible for every cruel thing you do and Islam gets the blame. then its very sad. i'm sad. Its shameful.
    I am not saying that the gov was right. But i never expected anything good or bad from them. But Islamic students.
    Thank you for understanding
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    Salaam,

    The bottom line is you do not take Muslim lives. The powers i.e government had control. They chose to take the cowards way out. There is always room to avoid killing virgin Muslims. Is a F-16 worth a Muslim life?
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    Ghazi Sb smiling

    He is smiling definitely, look at his alive smile in other videos before his shahadat.
    And Of course rewarded on spot, what Roshan Kyal people like us, couldn't even dream about. May Allah give us this level of Imaan also.
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    Salaam,

    I am a mother..and sometimes I just wonder..
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    Lal Masjid Events: For the doubters!

    Asslamo Allaikum,

    I have been busy translating, collecting info & here is some stuff which has appeared in Urdu media & I think Brothers/Sisters should read....

    Even the Shcolars of Pakistan DISAGREE with the methodology but hundreds of orphan girls (between 8-15) have been SHOT DEAD and some of the Brothers/Sisters should show a little compassion!



    I have taken most of the articles from Secular sources so there is no chance of it being biased!
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    Salaam,

    My respected and faithful brother thank you for helping us see the truth. I am dismayed at the reaction of Muslims about this incident. Maybe it is only ''just another incident " as the world continues to turn its back on Muslims. The innocents are with Allah and we are left to take action.
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    jakallahu Khairun brother GP.
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    its so sad

    it just dont make sense to me at all why they would kill innocent muslim people its sick and it brings tear to my eyes to see that may Allah grant them heaven ameeeeen inshallah
    :astag:
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    Students say 1,000 orphans were inside Jamia Hafsa during assault

    http://gulfnews.com/world/Pakistan/10139865.html

    Pakistan
    Students say 1,000 orphans were inside Jamia Hafsa during assault

    By Wajid Ali Wajid, Correspondent
    Published: July 17, 2007, 00:18

    Islamabad: Female students of the controversial seminary Jamia Hafsa, who surrendered to security forces, have disclosed that nearly 1,000 orphaned female students were in the building during the attack and their fate was still unknown.

    Talking to media at a rehabilitation centre, Humaira, Azra and Noreen said after the devastating earthquake in Kashmir and Northwest Frontier Province on October 8, 2005, hundreds of orphaned female students were brought to the seminary.

    "After the earthquake, about 1,000 orphaned female students were admitted to Jamia Hafsa. Jamia bore all the costs of their residence and education," said Noreen, 23, from Kashmir.

    "It is still not clear what happened to those students and where they had gone because they had no place to go," said Humaira, 24, from the North West Frontier Province.

    "We surrendered after the launch of the operation and at that time more than 1,000 female students were in the Jamia Hafsa. After our surrender, very few female students came out of the building," they said.

    Figure

    The female students said "we fail to understand and can't digest the government figure of casualties as there were lots of people in the compound after the launch of the military operation."

    They were saddened by the state of affairs and said that although something had gone wrong with the administration, no one had expected such a tragic fate for so many innocent people.

    "The government should have exercised more patience and dialogue and should have allowed more chance to solve this crisis amicably," they said.

    The government has released photographs of 10 more foreign militants who died during the military's "Operation Silence" against the Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa.

    "We have identified 10 more bodies of foreigners who died fighting security forces. We are not sure about their nationality, but their faces clearly show they are foreigners," Interior Ministry spokesman Brigadier Javed Iqbal Cheema told a press conference in Islamabad.
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    The appearance looks like that of foreigners .Most of the Pathans have fair complexion and look like foreigners .Two of the persons identified by army as foreigners are Pakistanis .One of them belongs to ATTOCK.
    The other one belongs to KAHUTA.

    Now the other 8 persons also belong to Pakistan their identity will Inshallah be revealed.
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    Salam,

    If I heard and read right that Abdul Rasheed Ghazi did not let the women and children out and refused to let the boys out until his own safety was assured, I cannot find any sympathy for him. Ofcourse, media being media, I am not sure I can trust ptv or geo news.

    Salam

    P.S: I posted this in the wrong thread, hence the copy and paste here.
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    :salam2:
    brother the matter u talking abt not true, every one who was in the masjid was not by pushed by abdul rasheed, they were inside willingly. every women who came out from masjid said they were inside willingly, no one bush them to stay inside.
    Gov't still can't find anyone who could tell them that they were inside unwillingly, axcept a 14 years boy, whom they don't let talk to anyone axcept ptv.( thats y i m not sure if that was ture 2)
    any way Allah knows wt was attention of abdul rsheed Ghazi and Bushraf,they will be judge by that.
    u r still under the prapoganda try to find the truth
    May Allah have his mercy on us
    :wasalam:


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    Lal Masjid Massacre

    Lal Masjid Massacre

    You have seen us on the news
    Heard many stories
    Mostly negative
    Don't blame you if you hate us
    But now its time to hear our views

    You have seen men with beards and turbans
    Women with faces covered and sticks in one hand
    Children shouting militant slogans
    We don't blame you if you are scared

    Who are we?
    Are we mad, raving lunatics?
    Intent of destruction and mayhem
    Or are we human and Muslim just like you?

    You have seen the house of Allah surrounded
    Helicopters and armed soldiers
    Used to attack us in our place of worship and home
    You have seen bodies flooding out
    Most believed the official version
    But some sincere Muslims have doubts
    Questions and criticisms

    Do we not deserve justice and a fair hearing?
    Or is it ok for us to be butchered like animals at Qurbani?
    Over hundred plus dead and even more wounded
    Mass graves and cover ups
    Some witnesses say 1500 martyred
    what was our crime and who convicted us in what court?

    If you're willing to listen and think for yourself
    Then here is our story

    We are Muslims
    Just like you
    Believe in Allah and his book and Prophet
    We accept all the verses and hadith
    Regardless of the change in time and place
    Islam is not only in our hearts
    But in our actions too

    We saw the evil all around just like you do
    We felt angry and sad like everyone else
    Pakistan established in the name of Islam
    But where is Islam in society we asked?

    Musharaff came
    some people applauded
    Need for change from the Bhuttos and the Nawaz Sharifs
    what has he delivered?
    A partner in America's war against Islam
    Thousands of Muslims dead
    And open vice and evil everywhere

    Brothels even next to masjids
    Corruption so open
    Modernisation and progress some say
    It's the price we pay
    For being Secular

    Islam inside people's hearts
    While the decadent values tear our nation apart
    Polarisation
    Islamists and Secularists
    With millions in the middle

    So we took a stand
    Against those who do evil
    Used our hands
    To change the condition of the people
    We expected the Government to attack us
    But we expected better from our brothers and sisters

    Do you not wish to live in a better society?
    Free from corruption and evil
    Based upon the Prophets Sunnah
    Where your daughters can walk without being molested
    Your sons can get jobs without paying bribes
    And the nation's wealth will be utilised for the ummah

    So we suffered the consequences of our sincerity to Allah
    We have no regrets
    After all death is decreed by the creator
    We leave this world working for Allah's deen
    You and us will meet again soon
    Where the only currency will be good deeds
    So take advantage of the time you have left
    And read the Quran and Sunnah with an open mind
    And act upon its commands
    InshAllah

    "I don’t expect justice from this government. This is the government of liars and hypocrites. I have lodged my case in the court of Allah, and now He will do the justice." - Father of the shaheed children
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    Lal Masjid Massacre at Capital Talk (Urdu)

    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Cracking analysis on Geo TV....

    Eye-witness accounts of the Massacare & Student testimonies for those who "still think" that these were extremists!

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