Hallo Paki Idol!
Hallo Stranger786!
About the second video: I think it's not right to take the very worst Americans that committed crimes and then say: all the Americans are like that. This video is a video that uses the suffer of innocent people that had to suffer because of the war – because of Hussein and because of terrorists attacking the US first – to incite hate against the USA. It’s a video that misuses human feelings of sorrow and grief and horror to turn your worldview up-side-down, to teach you to hate America.
In World War II (1939-1995) the American and British Army were bombing and fighting many cities in Germany, millions of german civilians died: men, women, children, innocent people died in these attacks.
The evil – Hitler and the Nazis - had took over Germany and with their lethal ideology the Germans killed millions of Jews, Gipsys, Homosexuals and political opponents. They strongly believed in ‚the Jews are the source of all problems‘, they believed in the shameless fake „protocols of the elders of zion“ which is a fake - they truely believed in that faked hate inciting *!*!*!*!, and lots of Germans – the majority - believed to Hitler and his ideology. I am German and when I was in school I visited one of the concentration camps with my school class, I saw gas-chambers. It’s horrible. Ahmadinejad is such a loon. How can he deny this. It is as if he would go outside, look at the sun and say: there is no sun, no, this is just a fake.
In the end, the US and GB and Russia defeated Germany. Millions of Germans were dead. 6 Millions of Jews and 3 Millions of other minority groups had died in the german concentration camps. Germany’s cities were very much destroyed. Nothing was working. No food, no water, no homes for millions of people that survived the war and thousands came from the former eastern territories that were now annexed by Polen and Russia. But the US didn’t exploit us nor did they treat the germans bad (the majority of the Americans who then occupied Germany – of course some did). Though the germans were the defeated people that had caused the death of thousands of thousands (I think 400.000!) of American soldiers. They helped (West-)Germany to build up our own new democratic constitution and parties and justice system. They supported us building up a strong and healtyh economy. Germany recovered and became a very strong and successful economy. We are living in wealth and peace since over 60 years now. We have a great social system: there is almost no poverty (poor people without work here have a home, food, clothes, school for their children, TV, - all payed by the social system), our social system is even much better than the American social system which is I think not very good! We have all kind of religions here: Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and more (the huge majority is Christians). Everybody can live their life in freedom. If I’d decided to become Muslim, there is no law that forbids me to become. If a Muslim decides do become Christian, it’ll be very easy for him. Everyone has the same rights and duties.
The US in 2003 fought against an Iraqi goverment which they considered to support and nourish terrorists that wanted to attack the US from inside with terror attacks like 9/11 (and which furthermore opressed the Iraqi people). The US were also very much afraid, that Hussein might start with WMD like nuclear weapons. Why Hussein didn’t cooperate so the UN-sanctions could be taken off years earlier and the people wouldn’t starve and suffer any more? Saddam Hussein saw children dying from hunger and illness. About 500.000 to 1.5 million children were dying during the UNO sanctions against Iraq. Hussein had already used chemical WMD against his own Kurd people in 1988. That’s what Rumsfeld was talking about in the video above, though he is clearly losing his thread and seems to have something like a ‚blackout‘.
Imagine a terrorist attack in say New York, Paris or Berlin with a nuclear bomb. The US might have lied about Hussein allegedly beeing already in possession of such weapons, but the fear was reasonable because even if Hussein was not already in possession of such weapons, he was already preparing to and might be soon in the future. There were more points of reason for the US to invade Iraq I think. All had to do with the threat of islamic terroristic extremistic organisations. Oil is one of these points. An example. Imagine you live in a village and get the water from another village, where the water source is. You pay with money for the water and everybody’s fine with that. I mean, it's only water. But: your life and the life of the village people depend on the water. The other village has a lot of power because it can control you in saying: if you don’t do what we want, we’ll stop the water running for you. That’s perfectly OK for you as long as the other village is your friend. But now imagine a fool with tyrannic ideology who hates your way of life becomes the leader of the other village. He might send killers to you but he might also destroy your system by destroying your economy by stopping the water, even if you are willing to pay money as you always did. It’s also a threat – one among others - that you will have to consider when you want to protect the people of your village. You would not let them die of thirst. I know that Iraq already had stopped delivering oil and the true story is much much more complex but this was only an example.
The west is not the propaganda against Islam! Don’t misunderstand the west. E.g. in my country you can find all kind of opinions, and yes, there are some „islamophobics“ around here in Germany but it’s a few, very few! And even these few are not terroristic, they say, they don’t like Islam because they think: Islam is the source of terrorism. They say that and that’s it. We have perfect free speech here. The vast, very vast majority does not think that Islam is the source of terror but does believe that Islam is a respectable and peaceful religion and that terrorists misuse the religion for some fanatic aims. Just this afternoon I downloaded from an islamic german website a document: a letter from 38 Muslim authorities to the Pope (because of the Pope-speech in Regensburg) and they explain why the Pope was wrong in their eyes – I’m interested in it and downloaded it, everybody can, this is very pro Islam, isn’t it? It obviously doesn’t fit your picture of the west. People here don’t want any bad toward Islam. But people here don’t want extremists, they don’t want islamic terrorism. I mean, that’s natural, isn’t it. And by the way, in 2003 most people here were against the Iraq invasion of the US, even me was against, I was even participating in demonstrations against the war. But today I see things a little different and I can understand the reasons for taking Saddam Hussein off. In 2003 I didn’t know so much about him. As you, I was not so much interested in politics in these days.
The problem is, that I think, what you call ...
... is not telling you the truth or at least only a part of the truth. They’re telling you obviously a conspiracy theory that incites hate against Israel, "the Zionists", the US and the west. And: of course you will find Europeans who completely agree to that conspiracy theory! Don’t get confused by that! You can find any opinion here in Europe! Because it’s all democratic states with free speech here and everybody has the right to express himself. In Germany we do even still have some stupid Nazis, shame on them! Now imagine this! But please don’t believe to such people! They are paranoic people. Don’t give in the attraction of conspiracy theories, don’t think it’s cool to know „the truth behind it all“. Because it’s not the truth. It’s hate. It's not "the Zionists" behind it all. That's not the truth, it's hate! Please get rid of that nightmare! Please listen to my words!
I wish you all the best, Christina
P.S. the internet discussion forum is taking too much of my time, I need more sleep ... please don't be angry or dipappointed if you write an answer and I won't answer any more ... I will read it carefully and with full attention but I think I won't find enough time to answer. There's still a posting in the Pope discussion I need to answer ... after that one I'm going to stop.
