Shiaism Exposed!

yasak80

Junior Member
:salam2:
this must be extreme shia belifes because i dont think my shia friends believe most the things mentioned but 'll ask and i'll also ask where they got their "version" of the religion from
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Yes I work with shia people.
There are groups in shia.
For example we are sunni. But arent there any group which believe somethings uncorrect inside us ?
Also some shias hate the above mentioned people inside them. They dont curse the sahaba.
This are extreme shias. I know their names but I am not sure. Gula shias or something like that.
 

Ershad

Junior Member
Yes I work with shia people.
There are groups in shia.
For example we are sunni. But arent there any group which believe somethings uncorrect inside us ?
Also some shias hate the above mentioned people inside them. They dont curse the sahaba.
This are extreme shias. I know their names but I am not sure. Gula shias or something like that.

Assalamu Alaikkum wa rahamatullahi wa barakatuhu,

Understanding and Classifying the Various Shia Sects


There are many Shia sects in history and the Shias have historically always splintered because of the very nature of their fundamental doctrine of Imamate (leadership). In this article we want to briefly, gain a broad overview of a general classification of the Shia.

Diagrammatical Representation:


In order to help you see a birdseye view we present the following diagram:

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Brief Details on the Sects

First, we have the Kaysaaniyyah:

They are ascribed to Kaysaan who is the mawlaa of Ali (radiallaahu anhu), and also the student of Muhammad bin al-Hanafiyyah (son of Ali). The core belief of this sect is that Ali (radiallaahu anhu) encompassed all the divine knowledge, and he knows all the secret hidden ta'weels (explanations, exegesis), and that he alone has the right to make interpretations of the Shariah texts, and obedience to this Imaam is the very essence of the religion (and which in turn invalidates the necessity of the legislated actions). Muhammad bin al-Hanafiyyah freed himself from these people openly, however when he died, they claimed he is still living and that he will be given the permission to return. To the Kaysaaniyyah, Muhammad bin al-Hanafiyyah is the awaited Mahdi. Note the diffrence between this sect and others in that they only said Ali (radiallaahu anhu) possessed the divine knowledge, but did not actually deify him.

Second, we have the Zaydiyyah:

And they ascribe to Zayd bin Ali bin al-Husayn bin Ali bin Abi Talib. Whilst they believe in the superiority of Ali (radiallaahu anhu), they also accept the principle that a person of lesser rank is able to take leadership despite the presence of the one with higher rank due to some considered beneficial interest which needed to be attained on account of the situation of presence of factors. This is how they view the rulership of Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman (radiallaahu anhum). When the Shias of Kufah heard of this position and that they do not free themselves of the two Shaykhs (Abu Bakr and Umar), they rejected them and so the Zaydiyyah labelled them "Raafidah." The Zaydiyyah are the most moderate and closest to Ahl al-Sunnah. Zayd bin Ali bin al-Husayn studied with Wasil bin Ataa (founder of the Mu'tzilah), there were elements of i'tizaal (rationalism) as well as aspects of khurooj (revolt of the Kharijites), although he was not upon the actual core usool of the Mu'tazilah and Kharijites, and for this reason, traces of these influences are found in the Zaydee fiqh and manhaj.

Third, we have the Imaamiyyah Shias:

These are of numerous sects as we shall see, but they carried the right of Imaamah (leadership) from Ali to his son Hasan, to his brother Husayn to his son Zayn al-Aabideen and then to his son Muhammad al-Baaqir, then to his son Ja'far al-Saadiq (may Allaah be pleased with them all). From here, they divided into two categories:

The first are those who then gave the right of Imaam to the son of Ja'far, Ismaa'eel, and they became known as the Ismaa'eeliyyah. This group in turn split into many groups, but three of them remain today and they are: a) Ismaa'eeliyyah Musta'liyyah (Bohrahs), b) Ismaa'eeliyyah Nizaariyyah (Agha Khanis), c) Druze. The second are those who gave the right of Imaamah to Musa al-Kadhim, and these are known as the Ithna Ashariyyah (the Twelvers), and they are also referred to as the Ja'fariyyah. They are the most important of the sects of the Shia and most of the Shia of today are from this group and they are found in Iran, Iraq, Arabia, Pakistan, Lebanon and elsewhere. It is from this group that the Nusayriyyah (a very extreme sect) splintered off from.

It is this last group that is associated with the label of Shia today and they are referred to by many different names such as "Shiah" (those siding with Ali), or "Raafidah" (those rejecting the two Shaykhs, Abu Bakr and Umar) or "Ithna Ashariyyah" (those believing in the twelve Imaams) or "Imaamiyyah" (those believing in leadership being a pillar of Islam), and all these labels characterize a particular element of their belief.

Fourth, we have the Nusayriyyah:

They are an extreme splinter group from the Imaamiyyah, Ithna Ashariyyah sect of the Shia and they appeared in the third-century hijrah, named after Muhammad bin Nusayr al-Numayree. They claim Allaah indwelled in Ali (radiallaahu anhu), they also believe in the transmigration of souls (tanaasukh al-arwaah) and also believe in secret esoteric interpretations of the Qur'an. The entire set of beliefs they hold are an amalgamation of idol-worship, Magian paganism, and Jewish and Christian doctrines. They conceal their doctrines from those outside of their circles, and historically have killed those who dared to leak their secrets.

Source:http://www.shia.bs/?stryy
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
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this must be extreme shia belifes because i dont think my shia friends believe most the things mentioned but 'll ask and i'll also ask where they got their "version" of the religion from
:salam2:

I'm try to convince my self as what you said... I just can't believe it too. Astafirullah.. I never imagine they will stray to this extend.. I pray Allah to guide them.
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
:salam2:
this must be extreme shia belifes because i dont think my shia friends believe most the things mentioned but 'll ask and i'll also ask where they got their "version" of the religion from
:salam2:

:salam2:
this will actually explain things more clearly inshAllah


Information about the Shi’ah - 97448
We are in urgent need of information about the differences between the Sunnis and Shi’is. We hope that you can explain something about their beliefs?.

Praise be to Allaah.
The Shi’ah have many sects. Some of them are kaafirs who worship ‘Ali and call upon him, and they worship Faatimah, al-Husayn and others. Some of them say that Jibreel (peace be upon him) betrayed the trust and the Prophethood belonged to ‘Ali, not to Muhammad. There are also others among them, such as the Imamiyyah – the Raafidi Ithna ‘Ashari – who worship ‘Ali and say that their imams are better than the angels and Prophets.

There are many groups among them; some are kaafirs and some are not kaafirs. The mildest among them are those who say that ‘Ali was better than the three (Abu Bakr, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan). The one who says this is not a kaafir but he is mistaken, because ‘Ali was the fourth, and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq, ‘Umar and ‘Uthmaan were better than him. If a person prefers him over them then he is erring and is going against the consensus of the Sahaabah, but he is not a kaafir. The Shi’ah are of different levels and types. The one who wants to know more about that may refer to the books of the scholars, such as al-Khutoot al-‘Areedah by Muhibb al-Deen al-Khateeb [available in English under the same title, translated by Abu Ameenah Bilaal Philips], Manhaaj al-Sunnah by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah, and other books that have been written on this topic, such as al-Shi’ah wa’l-Sunnah by Ihsaan Ilaahi Zaheer [also available in English translation] and many other books which explain their errors and evils – we ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.

Among the most evil of them are the Imamis, Ithna ‘Asharis and Nusayris, who are called al-Raafidah because they rejected (rafadu) Zayd ibn ‘Ali when he refused to disavow the two Shaykhs Abu Bakr and ‘Umar, so they went against him and rejected him. Not everyone who claims to be a Muslim can be accepted as such. If a person claims to be a Muslim, his claim should be examined. The one who worships Allaah alone and believes in His Messenger, and follows that which he brought, is a real Muslim. If a person claims to be a Muslim but he worships Faatimah or al-Badawi or al-‘Aydaroos or anyone else, then he is not a Muslim. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound. Similarly, anyone who reviles the faith, or does not pray, even if he says that he is a Muslim, is not a Muslim. The same applies to anyone who mocks the faith or mocks the prayer or zakaah or fasting or Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), or who disbelieves in him, or says that he was ignorant or that he did not convey the message in full or convey the message clearly. All such people are kaafirs. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound.


Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz (28/257).

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/islamqa/97448/print

:wasalam:
 

sachin4islam

Junior Member
Assalamu Alaikum:

Shiaism must be unanimously declared as not a part of Islam. Their principles and acts are giving a negative impression to Non-Muslims. Often critics of Islam use their ''Aqeedah" to defame Islam,Naudubillah.

When *!*!*!*!es changed Athan with including Ali (R.A) as Wali of Allah (SWT),they made worst of innovations in Deen of Allah (SWT),nothing more needs to pick them and place them out of fold of Islam.

Why are they allowed to go for Hajj,I do not understand?.

Regards.
 
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