As salaamu alaikum,
Before I start, I'd like to say I am a muslim and nothing will ever be able to change that insha'Allah however I am by nature someone who thinks over things a lot and questioning everything - which is encouraged in Islam anyway so I hope if I say something bad or offend anyone insha'Allah Allah s.w.t will forgive me.
Now to the thoughts I've been having...
When someone who doesn't believe in God or unsure about his existence the most concrete evidence is when you look around and see the complexities of nature and the entire universe. That's also the argument which is most commonly made with anologies such as "When you see a watch, do you think it came together in all it's complexities all by itself or an accident?". This is evidence enough however we learn that God is the first and last, the eternal, the most perfect, so obviously he created everything we see around us. I agree with the above statements but when we think of the God we believe in we know He's the most perfect, there's nothing like him or close but why then is the same argument with the watchmaker being applied here?
Surely this could mean that if the most perfect, almighty can be without any input or anything then why can't the universe follow the same logic? An atheist can easily argue with words like "Okay so the most complex being in eternity, that you believe can come to be by himself so what's wrong with just believing that the Universe which itself is pretty complex came by itself?" I'm finding it difficult to understand the different between the two statements.
Which leads me to part 2 of my question... why isn't the evidence for God's existence given clearly enough. If you're a disbeliever, surely if Allah s.w.t showed every single person (rather than messengers alone) signs or miracles or even directly speaking to each person after birth or something, which in all His glory wouldn't be the least bit difficult for Him. Surely if instead of the message being in book form - if given clearly to each person, then the person will be completely at fault for chasing after the world because they have ALL been told and shown explicitly. I live amongst disbelievers so I know what their viewpoints are to believing everything in a book because without evidence they can all be fictionary tales (not my words).
So yeah that's my thoughts and concerns which I've been pondering quite often lately and thought I'd ask on here for some discussion on BOTH topics.
Before I start, I'd like to say I am a muslim and nothing will ever be able to change that insha'Allah however I am by nature someone who thinks over things a lot and questioning everything - which is encouraged in Islam anyway so I hope if I say something bad or offend anyone insha'Allah Allah s.w.t will forgive me.
Now to the thoughts I've been having...
When someone who doesn't believe in God or unsure about his existence the most concrete evidence is when you look around and see the complexities of nature and the entire universe. That's also the argument which is most commonly made with anologies such as "When you see a watch, do you think it came together in all it's complexities all by itself or an accident?". This is evidence enough however we learn that God is the first and last, the eternal, the most perfect, so obviously he created everything we see around us. I agree with the above statements but when we think of the God we believe in we know He's the most perfect, there's nothing like him or close but why then is the same argument with the watchmaker being applied here?
Surely this could mean that if the most perfect, almighty can be without any input or anything then why can't the universe follow the same logic? An atheist can easily argue with words like "Okay so the most complex being in eternity, that you believe can come to be by himself so what's wrong with just believing that the Universe which itself is pretty complex came by itself?" I'm finding it difficult to understand the different between the two statements.
Which leads me to part 2 of my question... why isn't the evidence for God's existence given clearly enough. If you're a disbeliever, surely if Allah s.w.t showed every single person (rather than messengers alone) signs or miracles or even directly speaking to each person after birth or something, which in all His glory wouldn't be the least bit difficult for Him. Surely if instead of the message being in book form - if given clearly to each person, then the person will be completely at fault for chasing after the world because they have ALL been told and shown explicitly. I live amongst disbelievers so I know what their viewpoints are to believing everything in a book because without evidence they can all be fictionary tales (not my words).
So yeah that's my thoughts and concerns which I've been pondering quite often lately and thought I'd ask on here for some discussion on BOTH topics.