Funny The New World Order

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    It's nothing but words from men who's influence is limited to time and place. It's makes not an iota of difference to Gods plan... Which is fulfilled in Yeshua. :) everything else is marking time until the day.
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    Lucifer or Satan's goal is to turn souls from God. Yeshua said He was the way to God. The rest is for you to seek.
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    Quran makes things clear for people :

    120. He [Shaitan (Satan)] makes promises to them, and arouses in them false desires; and Shaitan's (Satan) promises are nothing but deceptions.

    121. The dwelling of such (people) is Hell, and they will find no way of escape from it.

    122. But those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah - Islamic Monotheism) and do deeds of righteousness, We shall admit them to the Gardens under which rivers flow (i.e. in Paradise) to dwell therein forever. Allah's Promise is the Truth, and whose words can be truer than those of Allah? (Of course, none).

    Translation of the meanings of Quran Surah. AlNisaa
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    As sister Cariad said, if you have faith in the Creator, in your religion and the conviction that everything is part of Allah's Divine Plan, nothing is either too fantastic, unbelievable or worth worrying about. The secularist believes in Life before death and that's where it ends. That is their obsession and not ours. The person who believes in Allah has prosperity in salvation in both life before death through belief and satisfaction in the Divine Decree, from within their own lives as well as acceptance of Allah's Justice and the reality today in the wider world as well as entry to the Kingdom of Heaven in the Life after death. So in short we have the best of both worlds. We are in a win win situation no matter how you look at it.
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    Salam,

    Really brother Juwairijya I didnt even saw what syster Carriad was talking about, I just post a thought to enyone having a discussion about 'end' times. And wasnt introduced verry well with way this forum works.
    I do really accept what Allah apoints to anybody as the divine decree. I just entered a discussion with a thought and wasnt aware of the topic being discussed.
    Allhamdullilah I learned about a belief of secularists.

    Assalam
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    Don't worry brother. I was being general and not referring to anyone or anything in particular. My objection, if it is targeted at anyone, is on the occultists, the secularists, the atheists, the agnostics, the religious internationalists [those who take all religions as correct and treat every religion as their own], and the New World Order strategists [i.e. governments and international organisations].
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    I wish to present a few quotations on the subject of the New World Order and how secularists are so keen and obsessed with first imposing it and then ensuring its permanence.

    "Implicit in all these events is a call for another way of life, another way of doing things, ... a redistribution of global wealth ... in short, a New World Order."
    (Dr. Jose Arquelles, of an organization known as the Planet Art Network. Dr. Arguelles)

    "What is new is the belief that a perfect secular [meaning worldly] order will emerge from the forcible overthrow of traditional authority."
    (Dr. James H. Billington, Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University, Lecturer Princeton & Harvard Universities, USA)

    "We can no longer afford freedom, and so it must be replaced with control over man, his conduct and his culture."
    (Professor B. F. Skinner, Chairman of the Psychology Department at Harvard University)

    "A new civilization is emerging in our lives ....This new civilization brings with it new family styles;changed ways of working, loving and living; a new economy; new political conflicts; and beyond all this an altered consciousness as well.

    The dawn of this new civilization is the single most explosive fact of our lifetimes." (Alvin Toffler, New World Order Analyst, 'The Third Wave')

    "... the twenty-first century ... will be the era of World Controllers ...." (Aldous Huxley, 'Brave New World Revisited')
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    The quotation below is not something to take too seriously, but it has some themes which have already started and not hard to believe. The author is someone who has spent 27 years researching it. While some of what he says is sound, we can disagree on some issues. The points below are not about prevalence, but about as it suggests, an 'order' and how it is or is intended to suppress traditional structures such as 'belief in religion', 'the conventional family' etc.

    "The New World Order will include changes in:

    the family:

    homosexual marriages will be legalized;

    parents will not be allowed to raise their
    children (the state will;)

    all women will be employed by the state and not allowed to
    be "homemakers";

    divorce will become exceedingly
    easy and monogynous marriage
    will be slowly phased out;

    the workplace: the government will become the owner of
    all of the factors of production;

    the private ownership of property will be outlawed;

    religion: religion will be outlawed and believers will be either eliminated or imprisoned;
    there will be a new religion:

    the worship of man and his mind; all will believe in the new religion;" (Source: New World Order by A. Ralph Epperson)

    Personal Comment: As you can see from the list, one of the greatest assaults is on 'the family'. Perhaps if the family is destroyed, the belief is the state will be the new authority figure; the only source of education, upliftment, role model and moral code of guidance and life or goal motivation is the State itself.
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    If I can just mention about two points on the list, which seem extraordinary and unlikely (given that the New World Order NWO), is promoted by the so called Democratic Developed World)-

    the workplace
    : the government will become the owner of all of the factors of production;

    the private ownership of property will be outlawed;"

    Personal Comment: This is because Anti-NWO authors assert communism and socialism are part and parcel of the NWO; but presented as different to make their acceptance easier and the illusion all the more widespread worldwide.

    What makes NWO authors say this (I neither agree, nor disagree by the way) is that many of the heralds of international ideologies in history have been from powerful families that promote the NWO.

    Karl Marx is a confirmed member of the Rothschilds; an NWO family, as was Adolf Hitler. There are several other examples of those outside the families, but work closely with or alongside them.
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    I thought I might add something about Albert Pike, who was mentioned earlier by another poster, as an influential mason.

    Albert Pike, to the masons, is a guru, a founding father and a master, a person who has reached the highest point of perfection in his field and excels others due to his passion for masonry.

    "The Masonic writer, Albert Pike, placed the Masonic order into the discussion, when he wrote this in his book MORALS AND DOGMA:

    'It is not true to say that 'one man, however little, must not be sacrificed to another, however great, to a majority or to all men.'

    That is not only a fallacy, but a most dangerous one.
    Often one man and many men must be sacrificed, in the ordinary sense of the term, to the interest of the many.

    ... the interest and even the life of one man must often be sacrificed to the interest and welfare of his country."
    (Source: New World Order by A. Ralph Epperson, P 37)
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    It sounds like the Novel "nineteen eighty four" By George Orwell. Or "Brave New World" by Adlous Huxley.
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    Masons I think maybe too near to Satan. :(
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    Huxley is one of the people I quoted and both Orwell and HG Wells were among those who spoke about the NWO and the occult as well. If you remember Orwell's 1938 live fictional radio broadcast led to thousands of Americans to believe the aliens had just landed.

    As to being Satan or from Satan, I can't say, but the NWO is definitely anti religion and if I might add very anti Christianity as well. I won't repeat some of their statements in part because of the highly explicit verbal expressions of hatred spoken and written against Christians in general. I can understand someone blaming religion for the world's faults, but to speak so harshly and to use such strong language is uncalled for against any religion.
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    Of course they are anti religion. They are against God.. If they are against God they are players for the other side.

    The biggest enemy of religion and christianity in particular is secularism. Why I say Christianity in particular? Because many christians have become complacent and too many have stopped speaking out for God. Muslims are more vocal about their Islam, this I admire to some extent. I see this has resulted in a kind of positive discrimination for muslims. Christians become persecuted in small ways in their country which historically has been seen as "christian". Outward expressions of ones faith in the work place are not allowed, for fear of causing offence. Whereas starting the school day with prayer for all schools was once the norm now only faith schools have this option. These are small things but are a thin end of a wedge, and it will not stop until God is diminished in people's lives. Although, such things make my heart sad, I also trust in the Lord and know that He will prevail. In the darkest of times God will be there.

    Do you know the phrase "Do not be afraid" is found 365 times in the Bible. So I am not afraid, because I know God is with me.
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    Peace to sister Cariad , dear you said:
    (((God wants us ALL to love and worship only Him,)))

    Exactly this is the message of Islam:

    (21. O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allah), Who created you and those who were before you so that you may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V.2:2).

    22. Who has made the earth a resting place for you, and the sky as a canopy, and sent down water (rain) from the sky and brought forth therewith fruits as a provision for you. Then do not set up rivals unto Allah (in worship) while you know (that He Alone has the right to be worshipped).)

    Translation of Surah AlBakara.

    To worship Allah means to love him the most love with most humility .First Quran make thing clear Who is our creator , we can't love until we know . When a person understand who is Allah his creator , the most loving most merciful , then love will full his/her heart naturally and then will be happy and joyful in this worshipping. To worship Allah means to do all that is good as it is clear in Quran .

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