Who are the wahaabis?

auroran

Junior Member
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What is a Wahaabi? Why are Muslims (mostly Shias and Sufis) calling other Muslims (mostly Sunnis) that?

My dad says Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahaab is dangerous and he said not to listen to him...but then again, he doesn't see anything wrong with calling out to the dead. He said seeing a doctor is haraam because only Allaah azza wa jal can help you. ?

They even have a Kalimah (according to one Muslim): wahaabi kalamah BIDAH , BIDAH , BIDFAH , BIDAH , BIDAH , BIDAH ,BIDAH , BIDAH BIDAH ,BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDABH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAHG BIDAH BIDAH

Please tell me what exactly a Wahaabi is.....Jazaakum Allaahu Khayr...

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DanyalSAC

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What is a Wahaabi? Why are Muslims (mostly Shias and Sufis) calling other Muslims (mostly Sunnis) that?

My dad says Muhammad ibn Abdul-Wahaab is dangerous and he said not to listen to him...but then again, he doesn't see anything wrong with calling out to the dead. He said seeing a doctor is haraam because only Allaah azza wa jal can help you. ?

They even have a Kalimah (according to one Muslim): wahaabi kalamah BIDAH , BIDAH , BIDFAH , BIDAH , BIDAH , BIDAH ,BIDAH , BIDAH BIDAH ,BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDABH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAH BIDAHG BIDAH BIDAH

Please tell me what exactly a Wahaabi is.....Jazaakum Allaahu Khayr...

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Wa alaikum salaam -

Yes, ALLAH subhanahu wa ta'ala helps us by giving us doctors :)

Its been my experience that they use the terms "wahabi" and "salafi" interchangeably. I consider being called "salafi" a compliment.
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab – a reformer concerning whom many malicious lies have been told

Praise be to Allaah.

You should note that one of the ways in which Allaah deals with His chosen slaves is to test them according to the level of their faith, to show who is sincere and who is not. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Alif-Laam-Meem.

[These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur’aan, and none but Allaah (Alone) knows their meanings.]

2. Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: ‘We believe,’ and will not be tested.

3. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allaah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allaah knows all that before putting them to test)”

[al-‘Ankaboot 29:1-3]

Those who are most severely tested are the Prophets, then the next best and the next best, as it says in the saheeh hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

If you study the seerah (biography) of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), you will see that he went through severe tests; he was even accused of being a liar, a sorcerer and a madman; garbage and filth were thrown on his back; he was expelled from Makkah; and his feet bled in al-Taa’if. This was the situation of all the Prophets who were rejected before him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Shaykh al-Islam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab (may Allaah have mercy on him) suffered the same as other sincere scholars and daa’iyahs, but in the end the message of truth that he brought prevailed. How could it be otherwise? How could the light of truth be extinguished? Think about this man and how Allaah helped him to sow the seeds of Tawheed throughout the Arabian Peninsula and put an end to all kinds of shirk. If this indicates anything, it indicates that he was sincere in his call and made sacrifices for that cause as far as we can tell, and of course his efforts were supported and helped by Allaah.

But the enemies of this call have spared no effort to make false accusations concerning it. They claimed – falsely – that the Shaykh claimed to be a prophet, and that he did not respect the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) properly, and that he condemned all the ummah as kaafirs… and other fabrications and lies that were told about him. Anyone who examines these claims will realize for sure that they are all lies and fabrications. The books of the Shaykh which are widely circulated bear the greatest witness to that, and his followers who answered his call never mentioned anything to that effect. If the matter were as they claim, his followers would have conveyed the same ideas, otherwise they would have been disloyal to him. If you want to know more details about this and to clarify the matter, you should read the book Da’aawa al-Manaawi’een li Da’wah al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab by Dr ‘Abd al-‘Azeez al-‘Abd al-Lateef, which will answer all your questions, if Allaah wills.

With regard to calling his followers Wahhaabis, this is just another in a long series of fabrications made up by the enemies of his call, to divert people away from the call of truth and to place a barrier between his call and the people so that the call will not reach them. If you study the story of how al-Tufayl ibn ‘Amr al-Dawsi (may Allaah be pleased with him) became Muslim, you will see the parallels with what happened in the case of Imam Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab.

Ibn Hishaam narrated in his Seerah (1/394) that al-Tufayl set out towards Makkah, but Quraysh intercepted him at the gates of the city and warned him against listening to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). They made him think that he was a sorcerer who could cause division between man and wife… they kept on at him until he took some cotton and put it in his ears. Then when he saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), he thought to himself that he would take out the cotton and listen to him, and if what he said was true then he would accept it from him, and if he what he said was false and abhorrent, he would reject it. When he listened to him, all he could do was become Muslim on the spot.

Yes, he became Muslim after putting cotton in his ears. Those who oppose the call of Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab fabricated lies the same way Quraysh did. Quraysh understood full well that the call of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had the power to reach people’s hearts and minds, so they exaggerated in their lies about the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in an attempt to stop the truth reaching people. Similarly we see that those who speak against Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab and his followers repeat the same lies that were told against the original call.

You should – if you follow the truth – not pay any attention to these lies and fabrications. You should look for the truth of the matter by reading the books of Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhaab, for his books are the greatest proof that these people are lying, praise be to Allaah.

There is another subtle point that should be noted, which is that the Shaykh’s name was Muhammad, the attributive of which is Muhammadi. The word Wahhabi is the attributive derived from al-Wahhaab (the Bestower), who is Allaah, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Our Lord! Let not our hearts deviate (from the truth) after You have guided us, and grant us mercy from You. Truly, You are the Bestower [al-Wahhaab]”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:8]

As al-Zajjaaj said in Ishtiqaaq Asma’-Allaah, p. 126, al-Wahhaab “is the One Who gives a great deal. This form (fa’’aal) in Arabic is indicative of something that is done to a great extent. Allaah is al-Wahhaab (the Bestower) Who gives to His slaves one after another.”

Undoubtedly the path of al-Wahhaab is the path of truth in which there is no crookedness or fabrication, and His party is the one that will prevail. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whosoever takes Allaah, His Messenger, and those who have believed, as Protectors, then the party of Allaah will be the victorious”

[al-Maa’idah 5:56]

“They are the party of Allaah. Verily, it is the party of Allaah that will be the successful”

[al-Mujaadilah 58:22]

Long ago they accused al-Shaafa’i of being a Raafidi (Shi’ah) and he refuted them by saying:

“If being a Raafidi means loving the family of Muhammad, then let the two races (of mankind and the jinn) bear witness that I am a Raafidi.”

We refute the claims of those who accuse us of being Wahhabis by quoting the words of Shaykh Mullah ‘Imraan who was a Shi’i but Allaah guided him to the Sunnah. He said:

“If the follower of Ahmad [the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] is a Wahhaabi, then I affirm that I am a Wahhaabi

I reject the association of any other with Allaah, for I have no Lord except the Unique, the Bestower (al-Wahhaab)

Those who were called by the Prophet accused him of being a sorcerer and a liar.”

(See: Manhaaj al-Firqat al-Naajiyah by Shaykh Muhammad Jameel Zayno, p. 142-143.

And Allaah knows best.


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ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
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i'll explain you in short inshallah:

recently, the arabs were doing shirk and bidah. so Muhammed ibn Abdul-Wahhaab came to show them the path of Quran and sunnah.

so those who did not like his teachings of Tauheed, called him heretic and labeled those who follow him wahabis.

actually, Wahhaab is Allah's name which these people dont know. if you will read his book on Tauheed, you will not find anything against Islam.

btw, salafi means one who follows salafs (pious people of early generations). wahabis and salafis are often used together.
 

bari

Junior Member
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Brother, abdul wahab was a great scholar, did so much good to bring people to right islam, do not listen to anybody. Ask agood knowledgeable scholar.
 

auroran

Junior Member
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Jazakum Allaahu Khayran, may Allaah bless you three.

I asked my dad a few weeks ago, just for fun, if he was a Sufi and he said yes!!! No wonder he said stay away from the Shaykh lol.

Also Salafis behead people according to him...alhamdulillaah for this site.

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ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
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Jazakum Allaahu Khayran, may Allaah bless you three.

I asked my dad a few weeks ago, just for fun, if he was a Sufi and he said yes!!! No wonder he said stay away from the Shaykh lol.

Also Salafis behead people according to him...alhamdulillaah for this site.

:salam2:

:wasalam:

tell ur dad sister, that salafis behead murderers and rapists. what wrong with that?
 

auroran

Junior Member
Meaning, Shias, Sufis, Christians, Sunnis (?) or anyone that doesn't agree with them in countries like Somalia...imagine if I listened to him, ALHAMDULILLAAH FOR THIS SITE! :SMILY252:
 

Mabsoot

Amir
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tell ur dad sister, that salafis behead murderers and rapists. what wrong with that?

Assalamu alaykum

I would ask that you take a few minutes before writing replies to think carefully about what you write.

Salafis do not behead anyone, neither murderers or rapists. With regards to the use of capital punishment, then this is a matter which lies with the official courts and judicial systems under which people live. - Muslims must abide by the laws of their country, rather than take any matter into their own hands.

Secondly, we must be aware of different people who may call themselves "salafi" and do things which are against the teachings of Islam. - There are extremists who do many criminal activities and hide behind various names and labels. It is important to understand what da'wah salafiyyah means and to abide by it in order to be following the right path, rather than merely associating with a label or group.

We are Muslims, and as such our duty is to abide by the Noble Qur'aan and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s). We gain our understanding and explanation of the Quran and the Sunnah from the early generation of Muslims.
 

sachin4islam

Junior Member
Assalamu Alaikum:

How some Muslims can taunt to their fellow Muslims by using derogatory words and that too to those who strive hard not to be deviated even a mm from pious path of Muhammad (SAW).?

Regards.
 

ahmed_indian

to Allah we belong
Assalamu alaykum

I would ask that you take a few minutes before writing replies to think carefully about what you write.

Salafis do not behead anyone, neither murderers or rapists. With regards to the use of capital punishment, then this is a matter which lies with the official courts and judicial systems under which people live. - Muslims must abide by the laws of their country, rather than take any matter into their own hands.

Secondly, we must be aware of different people who may call themselves "salafi" and do things which are against the teachings of Islam. - There are extremists who do many criminal activities and hide behind various names and labels. It is important to understand what da'wah salafiyyah means and to abide by it in order to be following the right path, rather than merely associating with a label or group.

We are Muslims, and as such our duty is to abide by the Noble Qur'aan and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s). We gain our understanding and explanation of the Quran and the Sunnah from the early generation of Muslims.
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i think you got me wrong ( or i didnt explain properly). i only meant that salafis are those who follow shariah, so naturally they will try to establish shariah and then the people in power will behead those who deserve.
 

auroran

Junior Member
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Jazaakum Allaahu khayran, may Allaah bless you with health and eemaan, ameen.

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ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
What is a Wahaabi? Why are Muslims (mostly Shias and Sufis) calling other Muslims (mostly Sunnis) that?

Anyone who disagrees with the ways of Sufis or the Shi'a or Ahmadiyya or etc. is automatically a "Wahhabi" or "Salafi".

Why?

Because anyone who dares to call them out for incorporating bid'ah into their daily practices is either a Salafi or Wahhabi.

A.k.a Party Pooper.

That's basically it. They don't want anyone ruining their fun. Most of them don't even know who Salafis and Wahhabis are. They just use those terms to describe "strict" people who call them out on their disillusions.
 

Ahsen

Junior Member
There is a book,"Confessions of a british spy".It says that abdul wahhab was made to rise by his english friend who was a spy for the british government.I don't know if it's true or not but i am happy that we still have the original hadith in our hands.Anyways in pakistan if you stop going to shrines,tombs and stop doing bida'ah,people call you wahhabi.


Sister Shahnazz is right.They just want you back in their group because it destroys their fun when someone walks on the straight path.
 
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