Christian Councilman Named His Dog 'Muhammad'

[islamirama]

San Juan Capistrano Councilman Named His Dog 'Muhammad'

September 14, 2011

San Juan Capistrano City Councilman Derek Reeve announced at last week's council meeting that he gave one of his dogs — animals considered particularly impure in the Muslim world — the same name as the Muslim prophet Muhammad.

"That's right," Reeve said at the council meeting, "I named my dog Muhammad."

The remarks came during a discussion about a planned dog park in the city. A council action related to the dog park was scheduled for adoption without discussion, but Reeve pulled the item to ask questions and make a brief comment.

Apparently Reeve thought the remark was funny, and so did some meeting attendees, who could be heard laughing on the recording of the meeting.

"I have two new dogs. I'm excited about a dog park," Reeve said. "America and Muhammad may want to play with dogs."

Local Muslim leaders didn't see any humor. It is widely regarded an insult in the Arab world to refer to someone as a dog. And Muhammad is the most common name given to men in the Muslim world.

The Muslim leaders see the comment as an attempt to provoke the larger Muslim community.

"It is un-American, irresponsible and immoral of the Councilman to engage in behavior that will not only serve to fuel anti-Muslim sentiment, but also runs counter to our country's values of unity, respect and pluralism," Munira Syeda, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles wing of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, wrote in an email.

Salam Al-Marayati, executive director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, wasn't as strident but clearly wasn't pleased with the comment. "It's difficult to dignify such childishness," he said. "It doesn't even deserve a condemnation."

Al-Marayati said the comments were "beneath" the Muslim community, which wouldn't come out strongly against them. But he wasn't restrained in his opinion of Reeve.

"I'm sure the dog is more useful to the city than the city councilman [Reeve]," Al-Marayati said.

Mayor Sam Allevato said he was "frankly shocked" when he heard Reeve make the comment. Allevato said elected officials need to be held to a higher standard.

"I do not believe that comment does any good in the furtherance of good relations with members of the Muslim faith," Allevato said. "We have to be mindful as the elected leaders of the city. What we speak from the dais reverberates throughout the community and throughout the organization."

The remark will very likely be discussed at next week's council meeting. Council members are scheduled to consider "free speech and the decorum of the City Council," according to the meeting agenda.

Reeve could not be immediately reached for comment.

This isn't the first time this year that a local city council member has made comments offensive to Muslims. Hundreds turned out at a Villa Park City Council meeting in March to protest comments made by Councilwoman Deborah Pauly, who called attendees at a Muslim charity event "enemies of America."

http://voiceofoc.org/oc_south/article_4a6ca53a-df57-11e0-bee3-001cc4c002e0.html​

Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. (Quran 3:118)

 

[sachin4islam]

Assalamu Alaikum:

As usual they never lag behind to initiate a controversy by such worse animate instincts. This is to ignite hearts of we Muslims.

Peace and patience. For no power today or tomorrow can defame our beloved Prophet (SAW). The truth has been already proven,InshaAllah a day is awaited as a promise of Allah (SWT) when Islam will reach every niche on earth.

Regards.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,



So let us ignore the fool. There are too many to worry about. Instead, let us make dua for the propagation of the True faith.

 

[msmoorad]

Assalaam walaikum,



So let us ignore the fool. There are too many to worry about. Instead, let us make dua for the propagation of the True faith.

salaams to all

we cant do what youre thinking of cos we love & honour Isa/jesus (Alayhis salaam) more than the so-called Christians.

he is only digging himself deeper into the hole he is already in.

all we can do is make duaah for ours & their hidaayah.

they think they know what theyre doing but they dont.

and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah

 

[septithol]

Probably best, though I'd be highly tempted to get a pet Sea Squirt, name it "Derek Reeve" and take it to the council meeting.

For those who don't know, a Sea Squirt is a very primitive chordate (an animal with a dorsal spinal cord but no backbone). It has a very small brain for a very short time in it's infancy, after which it attaches itself to the bottom of the ocean for the rest of it's life, and the little brain it once had disintegrates. A natural process which pretty much mirrors the mental state of certain politicians, such as Derek Reeve.

 

[saifkhan]

as-salam 'alaikum

I'd make the dua that Umar radhiAllahu anhu made against the kuffar quraish leaders, who used to mock and and say negative against our beloved Prophet, the most praised being in the face of the earth, the dua goes on:

May Allah disfigure the faces

wa 'alaikum salam

 

[aisha16]

FIRST of all this guy is pathetic and is doing this to enrage Muslims. Give him no attention. Or anger.

Second of all if you look up this guy "Derek Reeve" he looks deformed and a little deranged. I'm not sure but in one picture he looks like he is almost paralyzed from the neck down. Actually kinda sad never heard that sort of thing coming from a disabled person..they usually don't seem to bother with others as they have their own troubles...but whatever.... He obviously has some serious issues...leave the idiot be. ....


And if the dua for the people who insult the prophet saw is to disfigure their faces. It's already been done. Look him up for yourself...no only disfigured but disabled as well.

 

[MohammedMaksudul]

as-salam 'alaikum

I'd make the dua that Umar radhiAllahu anhu made against the kuffar quraish leaders, who used to mock and and say negative against our beloved Prophet, the most praised being in the face of the earth, the dua goes on:

May Allah disfigure the faces

wa 'alaikum salam

:salam2:

Just when I was scrolling down to reply, I had this in my heart as well " May Allaah disfigure the faces of the kuffar ".

 

[IbnAdam77]

Assalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

These are the actions of Kuffar which we all know are done day and night. However, the more sad and thought provoking thing is that some so called Muslims knowingly or unknowingly mock Islam and the Prophet (pbuh) day and night. I have seen so many people who mock Hijab, Beard, Many Hadiths, etc etc. Ultimately who and what are they mocking at? Truly to say, this is far more annoying to hear those things from some people who says, "I am a Muslim" rather than a person who is well known in Kufr.

“Truly, Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.” (Surah al-Ra'd, Verse Number 11)

If I happen to be there when they come out from the meeting, I will print on a T-Shirt, "I love Jesus because I am a Muslim".

That will inshaAllah do much better than any other ways.

Wassalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

 

[sabina isa]

salaams to all

we cant do what youre thinking of cos we love & honour Isa/jesus (Alayhis salaam) more than the so-called Christians.

he is only digging himself deeper into the hole he is already in.

all we can do is make duaah for ours & their hidaayah.

they think they know what theyre doing but they dont.

and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah

As salam alaikum,

As we are in the names, trust me we do injustice to the prophet Isa, is "their followers" they do injustice to his name. The very first rejection of Isa a.s toward christians is related ti the name they call him now. They will call "Jesus came!" and he will not answer them because he does not recognize the name they call him. Go straight ahead, pig is to pure, call him Jesus by all means. No offense will be done to the prophet, but a true justice to the lost followers!

As salam

 

[Um Ibrahim]

I'm sure the dog is more useful to the city than the city councilman [Reeve]," Al-Marayati said

Al-Marayati pretty much summed it up. The guy is nothing and just wants attention.

 

[BintMuhammad]

May Allaah guide these narrow-minded people.

 

[Seeking Allah's Mercy]

Asalamoalaikom wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

We should pay attention to Brother Hatty's beneficial post.I know it's late but anyways.

:salam2:

I have received the message attached to this post. It is an advice from a friend of mine - I thought I share it with you and I will try to translate it in English. You may agree or disagree with the advice but I think it has a truth in it. Especially, there is a lot of information should not reach ordinary people as they will react emotionally and not logically to this information and this might lead to cause more harm to Islam than good. And Allah knows best.


The message says the following:

The Kuffar (the rejectors) of Quraish ridiculed, insulted, looked down upon, wrote and recited negative poetry about the Prophet s.a.w. In addition, they also threw stones and animal excrement at the Prophet while he was praying and the same treatment was offered to his followers.

Why did not those poems reach us?

Because the companions did not repeat those poems to others and inform their friends and family members about them and nobody learnt those poems by heart. And because of this practice, these poems did not reach us.

Nowadays, a lot of pictures and articles and books etc... which are ridiculing the Islamic faith, the Quran and our beloved Prophet s.a.w. and so forth. Therefore, it is advisable that we follow the example of the companions and their practice - by deleting any pictures that might end up in our mail box, instead of forwarding them to others and make it more public and widespread. Because the objective of the author of that picture is to spread those photos as much as possible.

Allah knows best...

:salam2:

Link

May Allaah guide us all.

 

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu alaykum,

Well, there were attempts such as that by Musaylimah al Kazab "Musaylimah the liar", a man who claimed to be a Prophet. He wrote a letter to the Prophet Muhammad (s) and also poems, which he claimed was wahiy, revelation.

His poems can still be found in narrations today, and they exist because they are ridiculous and hold nothing to the Quran. - In the time of the Prophet Muhammad (s), the Arabic language and importance of eloquence and poetry was at its height. That is why people who listened to the Qur'an, knew that it was impossible for a man to create.

Allah said in the Qur'an : “Say (O Muhammad) if mankind and jinn were to come together to produce something like this Qur’ân, they would not be able to do so, even if they were to help one another.” [Sûrah al-Isrâ’: 88]

So, the pagan Arabs did not dare to try to compete with the Qur'an, because they knew it was out of their league, an impossible task. But, Musaylimah decided to, and he ended up looking like an idiot.

This is one of the poems he came up with:

Al-Fîl
Mal-Fîl
Wa mâ adrâka mal-fîl
Lahu dhanabun radhîl, wa khurtûmun tawîl

which translates as:

The Elephant –
What is the elephant?
And what would have you know what the elephant is?
It has a scraggly tail and a very long trunk.

Here is another story about him, as recorded in the tafsir of Ibn Kathir:

`Amr bin Al-`As went to visit Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab after the Messenger of Allah was commissioned (as a Prophet) and before `Amr had accepted Islam. Upon his arrival, Musaylimah said to him,

“What has been revealed to your friend (Muhammad) during this time”

`Amr said, “A short and concise Surah has been revealed to him.”

Musaylimah then said, “What is it” `Amr replied;


﴿وَالْعَصْرِ – إِنَّ الإِنسَـنَ لَفِى خُسْرٍ – إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَـتِ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالصَّبْرِ ﴾

(By Al-`Asr. Verily, man is in loss. Except those who believe and do righteous deeds, and recommend one another to the truth, and recommend one another to patience.)

So Musaylimah thought for a while. Then he said, “Indeed something similar has also been revealed to me.”

`Amr asked him, “What is it”

He replied, “O Wabr* (a small, furry mammal; hyrax), O Wabr! You are only two ears and a chest, and the rest of you is digging and burrowing.”

Then he said, “What do you think, O `Amr”

So `Amr said to him, “By Allah! Verily, you know that I know you are lying.”

The Wabr is a small animal that resembles a cat, and the largest thing on it is its ears and its torso, while the rest of it is ugly. Musaylimah intended by the composition of these nonsensical verses to produce something which would oppose the Qur’an. Yet, it was not even convincing to the idol worshipper of that time.

(From Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Surat al-Asr)

 

[Asja]

:salam2:

It has past a loot of time that some of these kaffirs insulted our beloved Prophet sallahu alayha wa saalam and it hurts our hearts every time when we hear that someone is again making mockery of our Prophet sallahu alayha wa saalam and our deen Islaam.

But Alhamdulillah as Muslims we should not allow them to hurt us,but we should better streghten our eman and give Dawah about our Prophet sallahu alayha wa saalam and Islam.

May Allah punish these kaffirs for their words.Ameen ya Rabby

 

[Seeking Allah's Mercy]

Assalamu alaykum,

Well, there were attempts such as that by Musaylimah al Kazab "Musaylimah the liar", a man who claimed to be a Prophet. He wrote a letter to the Prophet Muhammad (s) and also poems, which he claimed was wahiy, revelation.

His poems can still be found in narrations today, and they exist because they are ridiculous and hold nothing to the Quran. - In the time of the Prophet Muhammad (s), the Arabic language and importance of eloquence and poetry was at its height. That is why people who listened to the Qur'an, knew that it was impossible for a man to create.

Wasalamoalaikom wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

Jazakallah khair for you post dear brother, but isn't there a difference? Musaylimah al Kazab was challenging the word of Allaah. This man here is insulting the prophet (may Allaah exalt his mention).

Here this man is directly abusing, insulting the prophet of Allaah like the mushriks of Makkah did. Do we have much record of how the mushrikeen used to abuse/insult the prophet of Allaah?

I mean every member of this forum came to know from this particular thread (or at least 90% of us) that some man insulted the Prophet of Allaah in such a manner. This bit of news is of no use to be honest. Not to mention that the news spreads around and this guy gets famous. And there is no doubt he did it just for that. Why even bother?

I find it disturbing and Inshaa'Allaah I'll refrain from posting here again and bumping this thread. If I were given a choice I would have done my best to silence it. Best is that we just pray that guy is granted Hidayah.

Not dictating or arguing. . .Just my thoughts. Inshaa'Allaah as the admin here you would know better. May Allaah sobhanuhu wa taa'la bless in return for this website.

Barakallah fik!

 

[islamirama]

I just like to say that those who are saying Allah to guide this pig should stop it. The Islamic punishment for one who attacks or insults the prophet (saw) is death. We should not be asking for their hidayah, they are enemies of the Prophet of Allah. We should be cursing them and praying for Allah's wrath upon them. This the least we can do in defense of our Prophet.

 

[Wannabemuslim]

easy answer is just to ignore it, most americans probably think hes a loser

 

[saifkhan]

I just like to say that those who are saying Allah to guide this pig should stop it. The Islamic punishment for one who attacks or insults the prophet (saw) is death. We should not be asking for their hidayah, they are enemies of the Prophet of Allah. We should be cursing them and praying for Allah's wrath upon them. This the least we can do in defense of our Prophet.

As-salam'alakum

I'm not sure brother,whether I'm right or wrong.

as far as I know,rasl sallaAllahu alaihi wasallam asked for the Hidayah of either Abu Jahl or Umar bin Al Khattab. and Allah granted his dua and Umarradhi Allahu anhu became the 2nd best of the Ummah, 2nd Caliph of Islam.

and also, who used to mock rasul Allah salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam at Jahilya, and when they returned back to Islam, they were forgiven.

personally I'd not like to make the dua for them,i'd rather go with Umar radhi Allahu anhu. I agree with you, but at the same time I think i can not amke stop someone to make dua

and as far as I know one have the privilege to make dua, becasue Allah guides whom He wills and the dua of the Prophet sallaAllahu alahi wa sallam.
and of course that is not violating the Islamic Punishment too. one can make dua.

i hope someone can help with more light, i just shared what i knew.
but brother please don't think,I want to start an argument or something, as I said, I'd NOT like to make dua for these people. if I Had the ability, I'd execute them, but everyone has his limits.

i hope you'll understand me

wassalamu 'alaikum

 

[islamirama]

As-salam'alakum

I'm not sure brother,whether I'm right or wrong.


i hope someone can help with more light, i just shared what i knew.
but brother please don't think,I want to start an argument or something, as I said, I'd NOT like to make dua for these people. if I Had the ability, I'd execute them, but everyone has his limits.

i hope you'll understand me

wassalamu 'alaikum

I'm aware of what you stated. This is why didn't say if we are allowed to make duas or not but rather just stated i they should stop praying for these pigs and rather pray for their punishment. What you say is true and yet at the same time we know Prophet (saw) and the sahabas also made duas against some enemies of Islam.