Giant 500-year-old Qu'raan

Abu Talib

Feeling low
A rarely-seen manuscript of one of the world's most important copies of the Koran is to be published online.

The hand-written holy book, estimated to be around 500 years old, is so precious and fragile scholars have been unable to put it on display.

Now experts at the University of Manchester's John Rylands Library are using digital technology to photograph each page and publish the book online to enable scholars and students to study it.

Analysis of the digital images should aid scholars to date the manuscript more accurately.

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It is believed to have originated from Cairo from the library of Kansuh al-Ghuri, one of the last Mamluk Sultans of Egypt.

SO, WILL IT FIT ON MY BOOKSHELF?

Each of the 470 pages measures 35in by 24in, the size of a large plasma screen TV.

The ornate book was written by several scribes and illuminators for Kansuh al-Ghuri, the penultimate Mameluke sultan of Egypt.

The paper it is written on was made from bombycine, a silken fabric which after sizing is polished with smooth stones so that the ink sits on the surface rather than being absorbed (similar in properties to vellum).

Historians disagree on when it was written, with estimates ranging from the second half of the 14th century to 1500.

It was kept in the sultan's library in Cairo and was eventually acquired by the Earl of Crawford.

The Koran was one of several manuscripts which formed the Crawford Collection, artefacts acquired by various Earls of Crawford, which was bought by Enriqueta Rylands in 1900 and became part of her husband's library the John Rylands Library.

The library eventually formed part of the University of Manchester in 1972 which is where it is now.

Known as the Rylands Koran of Kansuh al-Ghuri, it has two missing pages, or leaves, which were discovered in the 1970s at the Chester Beatty Library in Dublin.

The missing pages will also be captured in digital images and reunited with the book on the internet.

At least 950 images will be captured - which will be between 80 and 120MB each - allowing their study in intricate detail.

It will eventually be freely available for research, teaching and learning using Turning the Pages technology on a dedicated website.

Project manager Carol Burrows, collection and research support manager at the John Rylands Library, said: 'Because of its size and weight, reading room access has been severely restricted to all but a handful of scholars. It cannot be used in exhibitions, seminars or public close-ups.

'It will certainly be challenging to photograph this enormous manuscript, as it is too large and heavy for the equipment we normally use.

'However, we have constructed dedicated equipment which will achieve this aim.'

Dr Andreas Christmann, senior lecturer in Islamic Studies at the University’s school of Arts, Histories and Cultures said: 'Although one of the biggest assets of the John Rylands Library, this Koran has not been available for either research or teaching because of its delicate state.

'We know it represents one of the finest, most lavishly illuminated and calligraphically significant Qur’an manuscripts from the late Mamluk period.

'Because of its time of writing - 14th or 15th century – it bridges the gap in chronicling Qur’anic calligraphy between the late classical period - 9th-12th century and the early modern period - 16th-18th century.

'By digitising the entire manuscript and adding the missing chapters it will produce an almost complete Qur’anic manuscript of magnificent size and splendid craftsmanship.

'I’m delighted scholars, including students of my class in Qur’anic Studies, will have free access to studying this text, which will provide a great stimulus for further research into Qur’anic calligraphy.'

The Koran was purchased by the library in 1900 as part of the Crawford collection of manuscripts, a collection of artefacts acquired by various Earls of Crawford.

The project has been funded by the Islamic Manuscript Association.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348479/Rare-copy-Koran-published-online.html
 

arzafar

Junior Member
what are they studying it so meticulously for? probably trying to find errors and contradictions
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
what are they studying it so meticulously for? probably trying to find errors and contradictions

...............1......2......3............*deep breath*

Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala encouraged mankind to "ponder" at the wonders of Creation and to learn about one another. The fact that this Quran is being studied is nothing short of beneficial to whoever chooses to learn about it. This is a significant path towards dawah and should be encouraged for ALL to take part in.

The implication of this statement is that studying itself is bad because truths might be revealed that will "bias" our understanding of the subject and will turn us away from it. History cannot be changed, facts cannot be undone and truth is always told. Islam is not only the TRUTH, it is an open religion and is open to anyone who believes, understands and accepts its message. We're not Jews, closed off from the world and thinking we inherited being the Chosen people. If people don't study and learn about Islam, how will they ever learn of its message? This Quran is indeed a way for them to learn about Islam and discouraging it is only making the discourager look close minded and stingy about knowledge.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

It is a historic manuscript, they would be mostly be interested in the calligraphy of that time etc.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
...............1......2......3............*deep breath*

Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala encouraged mankind to "ponder" at the wonders of Creation and to learn about one another. The fact that this Quran is being studied is nothing short of beneficial to whoever chooses to learn about it. This is a significant path towards dawah and should be encouraged for ALL to take part in.

The implication of this statement is that studying itself is bad because truths might be revealed that will "bias" our understanding of the subject and will turn us away from it.

You're probably already aware that Allaah Himself tells us that the Qur'aan can be used for both guidance and misguidance depending on the intentions of the one who approaches it.

Considering the track record of the non-Muslims/orientalists thus far, arzafar's comment was not totally off the hook and its a perfectly valid point, (if correct they will be sorely disappointed if that is their intention behind studying it).

Wa-salaam

PS: I really dont care if they wear multiple pairs of gloves even, Id rather they didn't touch it ..why aren't there any Muslims involved in this?
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
You're probably already aware that Allaah Himself tells us that the Qur'aan can be used for both guidance and misguidance depending on the intentions of the one who approaches it.

Considering the track record of the non-Muslims/orientalists thus far, arzafar's comment was not totally off the hook and its a perfectly valid point, (if correct they will be sorely disappointed if that is their intention behind studying it).

Wa-salaam

PS: I really dont care if they wear multiple pairs of gloves even, Id rather they didn't touch it ..why aren't there any Muslims involved in this?

The fact that studying it can lead to misguidance is not good enough of an excuse to not study it. If people are intent on hating something, they will hate it irrespective of whichever way the wind blows. The example of orientalists is actually the perfect example. I'm sure you're aware that the West "orientalized" the East based on it's own secret fantasies and perceptions of the Other. They didn't know any of the facts; they simply decided to define an unknown lifestyle in a way which pleased them and was convenient for them because NO ONE knew any better. Read Edward Saed's "Orientalism" for further elaboration. They labeled an entire region based on their fantasies and what they wanted. No fact would have changed that as ulterior motives were behind it.

People rarely approach another ideology with PURE objectivity. There will always be some type of bias in obtaining knowledge, even if it equals the weight of a seed. The Quran is nothing short of majestic in it's words, language and message, to such an extent that our Creator challenged naysayers to produce something even SLIGHTLY close to it. Such a text, without a doubt, contains words to sway one's heart and mind. Those with veiled hearts won't be affected and if they're intent on hating it, they will. But those who are in awe of the majesty of the Quran (especially such a large and ornate one) will certainly be drawn to it, and for some it may be enough to study Islam.

Also, what makes you think these people aren't Muslim? The project is being funded by the Islamic Manuscript Association. I highly DOUBT there would be no Muslims involved.
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
The fact that studying it can lead to misguidance is not good enough of an excuse to not study it. If people are intent on hating something, they will hate it irrespective of whichever way the wind blows. The example of orientalists is actually the perfect example. I'm sure you're aware that the West "orientalized" the East based on it's own secret fantasies and perceptions of the Other. They didn't know any of the facts; they simply decided to define an unknown lifestyle in a way which pleased them and was convenient for them because NO ONE knew any better. Read Edward Saed's "Orientalism" for further elaboration. They labeled an entire region based on their fantasies and what they wanted. No fact would have changed that as ulterior motives were behind it.

I didn't say they shouldn't study it. No one on this thread has said that. Rest assured, no one is going to head off with this Qur'aan and deny them the chance to have a good look.

Ofcourse some Orientalists who speak ill of Islaam know better than to propagate some of the rubbish they do about Islaam and Muslims. Im not going to write all of them off as having evil intent, but neither am I giving all of them the benefit of the doubt and saying they knew none of the facts.

People rarely approach another ideology with PURE objectivity. There will always be some type of bias in obtaining knowledge, even if it equals the weight of a seed. The Quran is nothing short of majestic in it's words, language and message, to such an extent that our Creator challenged naysayers to produce something even SLIGHTLY close to it. Such a text, without a doubt, contains words to sway one's heart and mind. Those with veiled hearts won't be affected and if they're intent on hating it, they will. But those who are in awe of the majesty of the Quran (especially such a large and ornate one) will certainly be drawn to it, and for some it may be enough to study Islam.
Yeh you said exactly what I said, in your own words. Cool.

Also, what makes you think these people aren't Muslim?

What makes me think they're not? Their appearance.

I don't think it should be expected for Muslims to see those women touch the Qur'aan and automatically assume they are of the faith.

The project is being funded by the Islamic Manuscript Association. I highly DOUBT there would be no Muslims involved.
You missed my point, which was it would be better for Muslims to handle it. I've already stated I have absolutely no reason to believe those who are in the pictures, are Muslims.

Wa-salaam
 

ShahnazZ

Striving2BeAStranger
I didn't say they shouldn't study it. No one on this thread has said that.

Begging your pardon, I was responding to the indirect implication and not an actual statement.

Yeh you said exactly what I said, in your own words. Cool.

Good to know.

What makes me think they're not? Their appearance.

I don't think it should be expected for Muslims to see those women touch the Qur'aan and automatically assume they are of the faith.

You missed my point, which was it would be better for Muslims to handle it. I've already stated I have absolutely no reason to believe those who are in the pictures, are Muslims.

It's not fair to judge a book based on it's appearance. They may as well be non-Muslims but I'm not going to let their appearances deny them the benefit of the doubt. The Islamic Manuscript Association must be aware of how their every move will be perceived in relation to handling such an ancient and significant artifact. Whether they're Muslims or not, the Association has taken responsibility of this Quran. If any misfortune does happen to befall it, it's on them. At the same time, coming from a country where the masajid are full of Western reverts, seeing Muslims who don't "look Muslim" based on appearance is highly common. Therefore, it's not hard for me to take a step back and give these women the benefit of the doubt even though I could be entirely wrong.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
quraan is source of guidance. specifically quraan means the recital.

im not so sure it was revealed to be written beautifully, stained in gold or whatever. imho such things are a total waste of time. i know many muslims will be proud to see how this manuscript was created, and is now being taken care of etc. but this wow factor seems to be total misguidance, extremely vain indeed and totally missing the purpose behind Quraan. It just goes to show how wasteful Muslims of 1500s were.

where is the correct understanding, action? we are not jews - we are not supposed to make and collect manuscripts and put them away in museums. we are supposed to act upon them.

furthermore, it appears that the manuscript was 'captured' by the Brits after they defeated the muslims in which case it's hardly a source of pride - more like shame.

the funding may be coming from the muslims (i wonder why they dont demand it back) but those handling the manuscript dont appear to be muslims. Certainly the center of digital excellence http://www.library.manchester.ac.uk/centreofdigitalexcellence/
seems to be a secular institution; celebrating diversity and all that.
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
:salam2:

That is a massive Quran. I would have liked to go back in time and see how they made the paper and ink and wrote this out back then.

But coming to the point, when I saw the picture of the people touching the Quran, I felt a twinge of unease - yes, they are wearing gloves, but I sincerely hope that for all these years, this Quran was not stored on the floor, or put on the floor during moving it around etc etc. I can feel the brother's and sister's unease of wanting muslims only to touch this Quran. However, nothing will be gained by our speculating on the faith of these people, for we really will never know.
 

shaheeda35

strive4Jannah
:salam2:
I truly find it an amazing find....and inshallah maybe them studying it, can be a source of dawah for them and only Allah can guide them.

It's beautiful :ma:!
 

Sister Kalena

Junior Member
Beautiful Qu'ran

The Holy Qu'ran is beautiful...thank you for posting this article and I will be interested in stories about this research in the future...

A question for the forum -

What is a Muslim supposed to look like? I find the comments posted about the people in the pictures very interesting.

:blackhijab:
 
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