New Convert Problem::Help::

Brandi

Junior Member
Salaam alakium,
Hope everyone is doing well and families are in the best of health.

I have an issue about my mother. (btw, I'm a new convert) We are on the verge of "war"... I don't want to fight with her, nor do even bring up the subject of religion when I'm with her.. But, every time I go by her house to visit (I don't even wear my hijab to her house because I don't want her to get mad), she keeps bashing me and keeps telling false things about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). I'm not even going mention them on here. But you probably heard them from the insults of non-muslims b4.

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She then emailed me this link and with a note attached saying:

*Link Removed*

I find Muslims to be extremely violent and brainwashed religious culture......they remind me of Jim Jones but on a much larger scale.
I am extremely unhappy you chose this religion......I had only hoped it was one of your I want to be a Nun phases......ha.......I was better off with you being a nun, then this piece of third world *!*!*!*!.""
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(yes, it is true- when I was a teen, I wanted to be a nun and join a convent lol)

I tried to respond the best way I could. I know Islam but not well enough to debate on issues. I can answer simple "yes" or "no" questions pretty good lol.

But, it's getting to where I don't want to be around her. I love her very much. And I don't want to hurt her in anyway. I don't know how to go about this situation. Any advise is welcome. Thanks. :girl3:

Waalakium asalaam
 

tariq353

Junior Member
:salam2:

Sister obeying parents is very important in islam but there are situations when u can disobey them.......

QURAN
29:8. And We have enjoined upon man goodness to parents. But if they endeavor to make you associate with Me that of which you have no knowledge, do not obey them. To Me is your return, and I will inform you about what you used to do.

31:15. But if they endeavor to make you associate with Me that of which you have no knowledge, do not obey them but accompany them in [this] world with appropriate kindness and follow the way of those who turn back to Me [in repentance]. Then to Me will be your return, and I will inform you about what you used to do.



whenever their command clashes with any command of Allah n His Rasool(pbuh) u can very well disobey them.........BUT STILL WITH RESPECT TO OTHER WORLDLY MATTER DEAL THEM JUSTLY WITH LOVE N CARE.....

MAY ALLAH EASE UR TENSION A GV GUIDANCE TO UR PARENTS.......
aameen


wa salam
:)
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

You are between a rock and a hard place.

You are scaring your mother. You have entered a world she can not. She loves you but is not going to enter your world.

Set up some ground rules. I will come and visit and we will talk about these subjects and the other are taboo.
When you mother starts in..call upon Allah subhana talla in your heart.

Do not let her upset you. Be polite and silent. This is a powerful relationship.
You may shorten your visit. Let her know she has hurt you,non verbally. Change the subject. Ask her where you got your spirituality. Engage her in discussion. Get some popcorn and watch dumb movies together. I love Antonio Banderas in the 13th Warrior. Morgan Freeman in Robin Hood. They portray Muslim men.

If you go out and eat. Keep it positive.
 

tariq353

Junior Member
I find Muslims to be extremely violent and brainwashed religious culture......

Indeed muslims have been brainwashed i do blv......

Islam clears worldly filth, false fantasies, false concept, evil...from the mind.

i dont think there is anything wrong in washing out impurities n putting right concept abt God n salvation...


wa salam
 

Min-Fadhli-Rabii

Junior Member
Waaleikum salaam and welcome to a big family.
The brothers ans sisters have given good advise, masha'Allah. One day watch ISLAM: THE EMPIRE OF FAITH with her, when you find appropriate and maybe also, THE MESSAGE. People have been programme by electronic media, what we have to do is to reprogramme by action and words, slowly. Untill we clean all the garbage(if is the right word, if not forgive me). If you think is appropriate, tell her to be fair, learning Islam from the muslims and the source, not from the non-muslim and the few tiny blacksheep muslims who are misguided.
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
salam alaikum sister

Alhamdu li Allah , He guided you.

I can understand your status.
but you know your responsibility has raised to a higher level.
try convince you mother, so that it doesn't become late

I know He is Allah, who guides, but our duty is to convey the message

may me your mother hasn't realized the facts, so she may say these things, but when insha Allah she'll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxyeIyp9LFc&feature=related
watch from 2:55, the revert sister asked the question, I really don't want a situation like this, happen to anyone.

may Allah guide your mother, may He guide all our relatives, who r not in the right path.

JazakAllah khair
wa alaikum salam

NB: you dont have wear hijab if there is your mother, even if your family members,but if there is no person from outside
 

auroran

Junior Member
:salam2:

May Allah guide your parents! It's the same old "Muhammed :saw: is a paedophile" argument, which has been answered many times but they still refuse to listen. Your mom has to accept who you are or else you'll have to keep away from her as brother Ayman said.

Allah hafiz, may Allah make you successful in this world and the hereafter!

:salam2:
 

ammu

New Member
Be Patient

Salaamualaikum dear sister,

I would like to tell you that you need to be patient and steadfast. Try to visit her after she cool down a bit or when other family members are also present so that you can talk with other family members normally as you used to do before your conversion and your mother may realize that her daughter is the same old one and she may approach you first and talk with you. And inshaallah if you follow what Allah says sincerely then she will soon realize that you have become more calm, peaceful, and more wonderful as a human being. Then your mother may also be curious to know that what is there in Islam that has made her such a good human being.

I pray that may Allah SWT bring more ease in your life.

Dear sister please always remember that we are in this world to be tested. And Allah SWT tests his beloved muslims to see how much steadfastness they show in the situation of trials.

Fiamaanillah.... If i had said something wrong please forgive me.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
You have to be patient. Obeying parents (muslim or kaafir, rich or poor) is obligatory unless they tell you to do something unislamic.
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
Salaam alakium,
Hope everyone is doing well and families are in the best of health.

I have an issue about my mother. (btw, I'm a new convert) We are on the verge of "war"... I don't want to fight with her, nor do even bring up the subject of religion when I'm with her.. But, every time I go by her house to visit (I don't even wear my hijab to her house because I don't want her to get mad), she keeps bashing me and keeps telling false things about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). I'm not even going mention them on here. But you probably heard them from the insults of non-muslims b4.

==================
She then emailed me this link and with a note attached saying:



I find Muslims to be extremely violent and brainwashed religious culture......they remind me of Jim Jones but on a much larger scale.
I am extremely unhappy you chose this religion......I had only hoped it was one of your I want to be a Nun phases......ha.......I was better off with you being a nun, then this piece of third world *!*!*!*!.""
============

(yes, it is true- when I was a teen, I wanted to be a nun and join a convent lol)

I tried to respond the best way I could. I know Islam but not well enough to debate on issues. I can answer simple "yes" or "no" questions pretty good lol.

But, it's getting to where I don't want to be around her. I love her very much. And I don't want to hurt her in anyway. I don't know how to go about this situation. Any advise is welcome. Thanks. :girl3:

Waalakium asalaam
:salam2:Be respectful to your mother and prove her wrong by example and good manner.From time to time tough you could tease her a little with some uncontroversial fact exchange trough email,links..etc little by little.

Remember that she is the one who saw you as a baby not the other way around,keep in mind that switching things the other way around is not gonna have that much of a positive feedback.

So although it is quite apparent that she lacks knowledge in the subject and simplistically repeats what she heard,read from antagonist sources,do not adopt a fathering attitude with her,beauty simply stands out,it does not need to speak ,it is simply there to enchant the discerning eye.

And yes just as the prophets,Abraham,Moses,Jesus,Mohammad peace be upon them all were marginalized ,rejected,insulted , demonized and deemed as backward,so are their followers till this day,this is an honour rather than a curse!!

May Allah swt give your mother more understanding and grant you a positive surrounding inshallah.

Here is some info ,this is an opportunity for you to get informed,inshallah.

About Aicha R.A the mother of believers,amplify your arguments and get a healthy understanding yourself,for you to remain steadfast and strong.Follow the sub links posted by the other brothers and sisters aswell,and get your own cocktail together according to your way of understanding.

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75538

And here below are some quotations from a couple of non Muslim intellectuals,this should refute any attempt to perceive their assertions as being biased .We have more,ask whatever you wish,do not hesitate,we will all offer you some good material to stand firm on your journey,Bi Idnillah(With gods permission).

During the centuries of the crusades, all sorts of slanders were invented against Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). But with the birth of the modern age, marked with religious tolerance and freedom of thought, there has been a great change in the approach of Western authors in their delineation of his life and character. The views of some non-Muslim scholars regarding Prophet Muhammad, given at the end, justify this opinion.

But the West has still to go a step forward to discover the greatest reality about Muhammad and that is his being the true and the last Prophet of God for the whole humanity. In spite of all its objectivity and enlightenment there has been no sincere and objective attempt by the West to understand the Prophethood of Muhammad (pbuh). It is so strange that very glowing tributes are paid to him for his integrity and achievement but his claim of being the Prophet of God has been rejected explicitly or implicitly. It is here that a searching of the heart is required, and a review of the so-called objectivity is needed. The following glaring facts from the life of Muhammad (pbuh) have been furnished to facilitate an unbiased, logical and objective decision regarding his Prophethood.

Up to the age of forty, Muhammad was not known as a statesman, a preacher or an orator. He was never seen discussing the principles of metaphysics, ethics, law, politics, economics or sociology. No doubt he possessed an excellent character, charming manners and was highly cultured. Yet there was nothing so deeply striking and so radically extraordinary in him that would make men expect something great and revolutionary from him in the future. But when he came out of the Cave (HIRA) with a new message, he was completely transformed. Is it possible for such a person of the above qualities to turn all of a sudden into 'an impostor' and claim to be the Prophet of Allah and invite all the rage of his people? One might ask: for what reason did he suffer all those hardships? His people offered to accept him as their King and he would leave the preaching of his religion. But he chose to refuse their tempting offers and go on preaching his religion single-handedly in face of all kinds of insults, social boycott and even physical assault by his own people. Was it not only God's support and his firm will to disseminate the message of Allah and his deep-rooted belief that ultimately Islam would emerge as the only way of life for humanity, that he stood like a mountain in the face of all opposition and conspiracies to eliminate him? Furthermore, had he come with a design of rivalry with the Christians and the Jews, why should he have made belief in Jesus Christ and Moses and other Prophets of God (peace be upon them), a basic requirement of faith without which no one could be a Muslim?

Is it not an incontrovertible proof of his Prophethood that in spite of being unlettered and having led a very normal and quiet life for forty years, when he began preaching his message, all of Arabia stood in awe and wonder and was bewitched by his wonderful eloquence and oratory? It was so matchless that the whole legion of Arab poets, preachers and orators of the highest calibre failed to bring forth its equivalent. And above all, how could he then pronounce truths of a scientific nature contained in the Qur'an that no other human being could possible have developed at that time?

Last but not least, why did he lead a hard life even after gaining power and authority? Just ponder over the words he uttered while dying: "We the community of the Prophets are not inherited. Whatever we leave is for charity."

As a matter of fact, Muhammad (pbuh) is the last link of the chain of Prophets sent in different lands and times since the very beginning of the human life on this planet. Read the following writings of the Western authors:

"If greatness of purpose, smallness of means, and astounding results are the three criteria of human genius, who could dare to compare any great man in modern history with Muhammad? The most famous men created arms, laws and empires only. They founded, if anything at all, no more than material powers which often crumbled away before their eyes. This man moved not only armies, legislations, empires, peoples and dynasties, but millions of men in one-third of the then inhabited world; and more than that, he moved the altars, the gods, the religions, the ideas, the beliefs and souls. . . his forbearance in victory, his ambition, which was entirely devoted to one idea and in no manner striving for an empire; his endless prayers, his mystic conversations with God, his death and his triumph after death; all these attest not to an imposture but to a firm conviction which gave him the power to restore a dogma. This dogma was twofold, the unity of God and the immateriality of God; the former telling what God is, the latter telling what God is not; the one overthrowing false gods with the sword, the other starting an idea with words."

"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"

Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.

"It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran. . . The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. 'I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God' is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."

Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870, p. 54.

"He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports."

Bosworth Smith, MOHAMMAD AND MOHAMMADANISM, London, 1874, p. 92.

"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."

Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras,1932, p. 4.

"His readiness to undergo persecutions for his beliefs, the high moral character of the men who believed in him and looked up to him as leader, and the greatness of his ultimate achievement - all argue his fundamental integrity. To suppose Muhammad an impostor raises more problems than it solves. Moreover, none of the great figures of history is so poorly appreciated in the West as Muhammad."

W. Montgomery Watt, MOHAMMAD AT MECCA, Oxford, 1953, p. 52.

"Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty, he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband.

"Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God's word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded "Read." So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth: "There is one God."

"In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumours of God's personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced, "An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being." "At Muhammad's own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history: "If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever."

James A. Michener, "ISLAM: THE MISUNDERSTOOD RELIGION," in READER'S DIGEST (American edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70.

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."

Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.

http://www.islam101.com/dawah/what_muhammad.html
 

salahdin

Junior Member
Wa aleikum musalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu , i say pray for her so that ALLAH AZA WAJALLAH guide her and show her the light for indeed you are an ambassador . What you do and say will represent ISLAM and at the same time make a positive impact on her .

He was single, without wife or child. With him however was his mother who was still a mushrik. He longed, and prayed, for her to become a Muslim but she adamantly refused. One day, he invited her to have faith in God alone and follow His Prophet but she uttered some words about the Prophet which saddened him greatly. With tears in his eyes, he went to the noble Prophet who said to him: "What makes you cry, O Abu Hurayrah?" "I have not let up in inviting my mother to Islam but she has always rebuffed me. Today, I invited her again and I heard words from her which I do not like. Do make supplication to God Almighty to make the heart of Abu Hurayrah's mother incline to Islam."

The Prophet responded to Abu Hurayrah's request and prayed for his mother. Abu Hurayrah said: "I went home and found the door closed. I heard the splashing of water and when I tried to enter my mother said: "Stay where you are, O Abu Hurayrah." And after putting on her clothes, she said, "Enter!" I entered and she said: "I testify that there is no god but Allah and I testify that Muhammad is His Servant and His Messenger."

"I returned to the Prophet, peace be on him, weeping with joy just as an hour before I had gone weeping from sadness and said: "I have good news, O Messenger of Allah. God has responded to your prayer and guided the mother of Abu Hurayrah to Islam."
 

sister herb

Official TTI Chef
:salam2:

If your mother doesn´t want to listen you at all, maybe you could write her a letter and tell how you feel when she starts to insult those matters what are important and holy to you. Tell you love her very much but listening again and again hers bad words makes you sad.

Many of us here (as reverts) have had to listening same things from our parents (or friends or from other people around us). Try to explain her by letter what is right in Islam, what are simply lies. And don´t hesitate ask from us if you need some more information about islam. We are big family here just helping you.

:hearts:

your sister in islam,
reverted 16 years ago
 

BrotherMatthew

Land of the free
:wasalam:

As salaamu aleykom wa ramatullah Wa Barakatuh Sister

I know how it feels. The best thing you can do is pray to Allah (swt) for guidence and InshaAllah He will guide your mother into the Truth. Try and talk to her and show her what Islam is really all about.

Jazaka Allahu Khaira I wish peace and blessings upon you and your family.
 

MohammedMaksudul

May Allah Forgive us
:salam2:

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The believer who mixes with people and bears their annoyance with patience will have a greater reward than the one who does not mix with people and does not put up with their annoyance.” {Narrated by al-Tirmidhi 5207 and Ibn Maajah,4032}
 

Brandi

Junior Member
Salaam,

I would like to thank everyone once again! Everyone is so helpful... after reading everyone's post, y'all gave me confidence, and I'm sure things will work out inshallah... May Allah bless each and everyone of you! :hijabi:

(btw, I just noticed I left out the 'N' in convert in the title of the thread ooopps lol)
 

samiha

---------
Staff member
Salaam,

(btw, I just noticed I left out the 'N' in convert in the title of the thread ooopps lol)

wa `alaykum salaam

Not anymore =) ... I'm afraid I don't have much time to post, but I see you've gotten some good advice already mashaAllaah. I can only offer my dua to that, May Allaah ease your affairs, soften your mother's heart towards the truth, and bring about understanding between you both.

Stay strong; if you read some of the lives of the Sahaabah, you will see some had mothers who truly exceeded their bounds in their hatred of Islaam, and of their children accepting it. Mus`ab ibn `Umayr radiAllaahu anhu is a classic example, but do always treat her kindly, keep the door open if she approaches you, and keep her in your du`aa. Oft we undermine the effect of such an act, the story of Abu Hurayrah radiAllaahu anhu reminds of this as well (which was posted above!).

Although we may not have the same opportunity here, our du`aa to Allaah is never without benefit. If you get a chance do check out both of the full stories, the lives of the Sahaabah are always an inspiration. =)

Take care, and I hope for the best in your situation.

wasalaamu `alaykum
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
wa `alaykum salaam

Not anymore =) ... I'm afraid I don't have much time to post, but I see you've gotten some good advice already mashaAllaah. I can only offer my dua to that, May Allaah ease your affairs, soften your mother's heart towards the truth, and bring about understanding between you both.

Stay strong; if you read some of the lives of the Sahaabah, you will see some had mothers who truly exceeded their bounds in their hatred of Islaam, and of their children accepting it. Mus`ab ibn `Umayr radiAllaahu anhu is a classic example, but do always treat her kindly, keep the door open if she approaches you, and keep her in your du`aa. Oft we undermine the effect of such an act, the story of Abu Hurayrah radiAllaahu anhu reminds of this as well (which was posted above!).

Although we may not have the same opportunity here, our du`aa to Allaah is never without benefit. If you get a chance do check out both of the full stories, the lives of the Sahaabah are always an inspiration. =)

Take care, and I hope for the best in your situation.

wasalaamu `alaykum

Even Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas (Radhiyallahu Anhu) http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2683

These were the true heroes of Islaam May Allaah bless them all
Assalamu`alaykum
 
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