Superiority of Araba Race - Did Shaykh Ul Islam Ibn Taymiyya say this?

Ibn Uthaymin

Junior member
I found this online and i find it troubling, can someone please explain this?

Did Shaykh Ul Islam IT actually say this?

وجمهور العلماء على أن جنس العرب خير من غيرهم، كما أن جنس قريش خير من غيرهم، وجنس بني هاشم خـير مــن غيرهــم‏.‏

"And majority of the scholars believe that the arab race is better than the others, likewise race of Quraish is better than others. And race of Banu Hashim is better than others."

“…This was the position of Imam Ahmed (rahimahulla) and the majority of Ahlul ‘Ilm.”

Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/421
 

Kakorot

Junior Member
Hmm... He was human and made mistakes too. There is no proof from either qur'aan or sunnah that arabs are better. Besides, the above statement of Ibn Taymiyya doesn't have any backup evidence from either of these sources, so we can just throw it away because it has no link with our religion.
 

ilyas_eh

Used to be active here!
was
i read it in a book that shaykh albani (or may be ibn taymiyah, cannot recall now.)said that based on the hadith of rasool Allah salallahu alayhi wa salaam. but dont have the source now.

but he salallahu alayhi wa sallam said in his Last sermon, that there is no difference between an arab on a non arab.
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
:salam2:Thank you Sheikh.Altough I believe this has no basis in Islam,are you sure of this affirmation,I personally never heard of such concept before,allahu aalam.Wait a second if this is true it means am contradicting Shaykhul Islam Himself!Bidaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa run Forest run I mean run jamil before the bidaa police, the self ascribed followers of the salaaf catches me,as a partisan of the non alligned movement.Altough they will never catch an Ex Thai boxer,because am still ready to fight back.(joking relax brothers,am just happy today,Alhamdulillah)

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dunno

Junior Member
As I did study in the Saudi education system which is very religious ( rich with religious subjects ) I never recalled any teacher saying that Arabs are better but as mentioned above that there is no difference between an Arab and a non-Arab the statement has no backing. It also could mean that allah CHOSE to have his messenger from the Arabs which is indeed a blessing but that doesn't mean they are better as many quranic and hadeeths suggest that they are not.

Please dont post such things about sheikh al islam or anything on his behalf without sources.
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
I found this online and i find it troubling, can someone please explain this?

Did Shaykh Ul Islam IT actually say this?

وجمهور العلماء على أن جنس العرب خير من غيرهم، كما أن جنس قريش خير من غيرهم، وجنس بني هاشم خـير مــن غيرهــم‏.‏

"And majority of the scholars believe that the arab race is better than the others, likewise race of Quraish is better than others. And race of Banu Hashim is better than others."

“…This was the position of Imam Ahmed (rahimahulla) and the majority of Ahlul ‘Ilm.”

Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/421

Here is what i found.

The fact that Allah Most High has chosen the Arabs over other nations is affirmed in rigorously authenticated hadiths of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and give him peace; related by Bukhari and Muslim in their "Sahih" in the beginning of the chapter of merits, # 5897, on the authority of Wathilah ibn al-Asqa` who said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, 'Verily Allah has chosen Kinanah from the son of Isma`il, and He has chosen Quraysh from among Kinanah and He has chosen Hashim from among Quraysh and He has chosen me from the Bani Hashim.'"

So this hadith is a primary text about the preference of Arabs over others and the preference of some Arabs over other Arabs. And this is what the Imams have chosen from the.........of their books, and even in individual books such as the book of Qurb about the merit of Arabs, authored by the great Imam al-Hafiz Zayn al-din al-`Iraqi. And it was summarized by Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami and others.

Therefore the preference of Arabs over other nations, and the preference of some Arabs over other Arabs is affirmed in the Sacred Law. Allah has even preferred some months over other months and some days and nights of over others, as well as places. So in the same way, Allah Glorious and Exalted is He, has chosen some men over others, such as the prophets over others and even some prophets over other prophets. Muslims should not have any objection to this, because all of this returns to the wisdom of the Most Wise, Glorious is He, who is not asked about what He does, but rather, they are the ones who are asked. So after a Muslim has believed in Allah as his Lord, the Truth, and that there is no God but Him, then he should know that this is from among His matters, Blessed and High is He, and there is nothing but magnificent wisdom in it that we might see or that we might not see. Either way, we are only responsible for submitting to His rule, Glorious is He. And among His rulings is that Arabs are preferred over others and that some Arabs are better than other Arabs, as the above hadith clearly explained. So it is not appropriate for anyone to disagree in this when the proof is perfectly valid.

And there should be no disagreement in what has just preceded nor any disagreement in what appears in the Magnificent Book and in the sunna where we find that the real source of Allah's preference is God-fearingness (taqwa) which result in the good deeds that people earn and that they are accounted for. So whoever sends forth good for himself, Allah has preferred him over those who have sent forth evil. As for the preference of an Arab over a non-Arab, and the preference of some Arabs over others, this is not a deed that one can earn. Rather, it is a bounty that Allah gives to whom He wills. So he may will something for these people, and there is no objection to your Lord's rule. This is like the preference of some days over others, because the mind reasons that all days are the same in and of themselves, and there is no distinction that might appear between them. However, the mind can understand why something is better if there is not ........... So the Sacred law came and affirmed the preference of some over others, and for some of those things there were reasons and wisdoms, such as the preference of the night of Power over others because the Majestic Qur'an was revealed during it. And in some of these things, the wisdom is not apparent to us and so this falls into the chapter of absolute obedience, such as the number of cycles (rak`ahs) in the prayer.

It is obligatory on a Muslim to believe that Arabs are preferred over other nations because there is a proof for it. However, this is not one of the pillars of our religion such that if someone rejected this, they would be considered outside of Islam. But if one does reject this, one has sinned for not believing in it because it is an affirmed matter according to a clear rigorously authenticated hadith. Also, this issue is not something that is commonly known among most Muslims, so for this, one should not hasten to blame one who disagrees with it. It is necessary, rather, to tell him about the issue.

And the fact that Arabs are preferred over others does not mean that a non-Arab can not have a higher merit in the religion than an Arab, because a person earns the good deeds that Allah has recommended we compete for. This is the highest merit of God-fearingness and this will be the basis upon which things are decided in the hereafter. However, the merit of the Arabs will still remain, in terms of their respect and exaltation being higher than others. And from this some hadiths have come to us about the Quraysh being put first for the caliphate before others, such as the hadith in Bukhari (#3500) on the authority of Mu`awiyah, may Allah be well pleased with him who said, " I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, 'This matter of government belongs to the Quraysh. Anyone who takes a hostile attitude to them will be thrown on his face, as long as they are true to the faith." And Bukhari also related (#3501) on the authority of Ibn `Umar from the Prophet, may Allah bless him and give him peace, that he said, "Government continues to belong to the Quraysh, even if they are (no more than) two."

So I say that the merit of God-fearingness is what counts, according to the rigorously authenticated hadith, "And he who is slow in doing good deeds, his noble lineage will not quicken him (into entering Paradise).

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And here is another one with Al Albanis explanation,allahu aalam.

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Alhamdulillah, I am certain that students of knowledge realize that racism in all of its forms is unacceptable.

However, many students of knowledge fall into another Bid’ah due to ignorance. We see manifestations of this Bid’ah in many writings, speeches and general discussions. In fact, many Arabs fall into it in an attempt to emphasize that racism towards non Arabs is unacceptable in Islam.

This Bid’ah is that of Shu’oobism (الشعوبية).

Where did the term Shu’oobism come from:
The term Shu’oobism was first used by one of the greatest Arab linguist, Amr bin Bahr alKinani alBasri, famously known as alJahith.

He developed this term based on the Quranic verse: O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full Knowledge and is well-acquainted (with all things).

The word nations is the translation of the word Shu’ooban (شعوباً). Allah SWT generally categorized mankind into tribes and nations. Tribes is a reference to Arabs, and nations is a reference to non Arabs.

An Analogy:

Let us start with something which we all know and accept …

The essence of the offspring of the Prophet ASWS is of a higher status than the essence of any other offspring.

This is with respect to the essence. So it does not mean that someone who is from the offspring of the Prophet ASWS could not be less pious and, therefore, less loved by Allah SWT than someone who is.

Nevertheless, we have to believe that the essence of the offspring of the Prophet ASWS is of higher status.

Another analogy is: gold vs. silver. Gold in essence is more valuable than silver. But this does not mean that there cannot be a silver piece that is of more precious that a gold piece.

The Arab Essence vs. Non-Arab Essence:
In the same manner, it is the ‘Aqeedah of Ahlussunnah that the Arab essence is of a higher status than non-Arab essence.

Prophet ASWS said: Allah SWT has chosen Kinanah from among the son’s of Adam, and has chosen Quraish from Kinanah, and chose Bani Hashim from Quraish, and chose me from Bani Hashim.

Once again, this does not mean that Arabs are more beloved to Allah SWT than non-Arabs just because of their race. It is Taqwaa which counts. But just as the offspring of the Prophet ASWS has an essence which is of a higher status than everyone else, we are to believe that the Arab essence is of higher status than other races.

What is Shu’oobism?

Shu’oobism has two levels:

1) The first level is to believe that the Arab essence is not different than any other essence. Many people, including some Arabs, propagate this idea in an attempt to refute racism.

2) The second level is to believe that the Arab essence is inferior.

in the above, the word "essence" is used for the arabic word 'jinz". The term essence means (in nature), or (intrinsically) and does not mean "spiritual".

to understand the matter better here is a question and a response to it

question:

If you have an arab and a non-arab who are equally pious and do the same deeds as each other. Is the arab better than the non-arab ?

Answer:

If you replace the word Arab in your question with "bani Hashim" then I hope the answer will become clear.

If you have a person who is from Bani Hashim and another who is not, both are equally pious and do the same deeds as each other. Is the former better than the latter?

The answer is:
If you mean by "better": more likely to enter Jannah, then the answer is no.

But if you mean that being from Bani Hashim constitutes an added virtue in itself, then the answer is: yes.

The same applies to being an Arab.

the words of Imaam Shaykhul-Islam Muhamamd Naasiru-Deen al-Albanee

He said in Assilsilah Adda’eefah 163:

“The (جنس) of Arabs is better than the (جنس) of the rest of nations. This is what I believe, adopt as creed and consider as part of religion.
Even though I am Albanian, I am a Muslim, praise to Allah.
The virtue of the (جنس) of Arabs is the position of Ahlussunnah Waljamaa’ah. It is proven by many Hadeeths.”

Then he added RA:

“But this should not make an Arab proud of his (جنس). Because it is from the matters of Jahiliyyah which our Prophet Muhammad ASWS abolished.
We should not forget the reason why Arabs deserved this virtue. It is because of their intellect, speech ability, manners and deeds, which made them eligible to carry the Islamic Dawah to other nations.”

and additional tip to keep in mind is this case.

Muslim BORN ----> Christian revert to Islam
the two do EXACTLY the same deeds, yet we are informed that the revert (or convert: take ur pick) is rewarded double over that of the "muslim born"

the "revert" in this case acts as the "added virtue in and of itself"

just as the mere fact that being an arab is the "added virtue in and of itself"

that is the extent of that virtue, no where does it even remotely or implicitly imply anything or racism.

some proofs

Rabi'e narrated the prophet said: O' people, Allah created his creation and made them into two groups. He placed me in the best group then he made this group into tribes and placed me in the best tribe" [ Al-Mustadrak: 5077] This has been authenticiated by Al-hakim, adh-Dhahabi who was silent about it and shaykh. Shae'b Arna'ooti.

There is another athar that wa narrated by Suliman Al-Faresi ( رضي الله عنه ) when he said: O' Arabs Allah has favored you over us...." [ Musnad Al-bazar and Sunan Abi sa'ed] This Hadith has been authentciated by Al-Bazzar and Ibn taymmya

in tirmidhee 2/201

he says

"Allah created mankind and chose me from the best whereof, He chose the tribes and selected me from the best whereof, and He chose families and selected me from the best whereof. I am the very best in person and family"

thus of all mankind, the first best were the arabs as the statement is "the best of all of them or "whereof" i.e. mankind were the arabs.
the second best were the tribe of quraish
the third best was the family of hashim
and he was the best of hashim.

Shaikhul Islaam ibn Taymiyyah said in Iqtidaa’ As-siraatal-Mustaqeem:

The belief of Ahlussunnati waJamaa’ah is that the essence of Arabs is better than that of ‘Ajam, whether the ‘Ajam are Hebrew, Assyrians, Romans, Persians or others.

Quraish is the best of Arabs, Bani Hashim are the best of Quaish, and Muhammad ASWS is the best of Bani Hashim. Therefore, Muhammad ASWS is the best of humanity, both in person and in lineage.

The virtue of Arabs, Quraish and then Bani Hashim is not just because the Prophet ASWS was from them, even though this is a part of virtue. Arabs are in themselves better. This is how it is proven that the Prophet ASWS is the best in person and lineage. Otherwise, a revolving argument will generate.
(and this comes from two shaykhul-silaams whoare themselves non arabs)

Shaikhul Islaam continues to say:

A group of people said that there is no virtue for the Arab essence over the non-Arab essence. Those are called: Shu’oobis, because they wanted to bring victory to the Shu’oob, the opposite of tribes. Tribes are for Arabs, and Shu’oob are for ‘Ajam.

Some people might claim that some non-Arab nations are better than Arabs.

Usually, such talk is produced due to hypocrisy, either in belief or in actions resulting from self desires and some doubts.

This is why it was narrated in a hadeeth: loving Arabs is Imaan and disliking them in hypocrisy.”

Final Words from ibn Taymiyyah’s Iqtidaa’:

“This is proof that disliking Arab’s and taking them as enemies is Kufur, or a reason for Kufur. Arabs are better than others, loving them is a reason for increasing Imaan. Had the prohibition of disliking Arabs been just like that of disliking other nations then disliking Arabs would not have been characterized as a reason to depart religion and dislike the Prophet ASWS. This proves that disliking them is worse than disliking others ...

What a Muslim should do when contemplating or discussing such virtues is to act like a wise religious person, whose goal is to know what is good, and to stick to it. His objective should not to be proud over anyone. Imam Muslim narrated in his Saheeh that the Prophet ASWS said: It has been revealed to me that you should be humble so that none of you becomes proud over another, or oppress another.

So Allah SWT prohibited, by means of His Prophet, both types of transgression: Pride and oppression … so if someone is from a virtuous group, such as being a Hashimite, a Quraishen or an Arab, let him not feel that he is virtuous. If he did, then he would be wrong. Because virtue of essence does not necessitate virtue of the individual … there could be an Abyssinian who is better in the eyes of Allah than most of Quraish. Just having this believe (believing that you are virtuous because you belong to a virtuous group) necessitates that you exit the status of virtue.

If a person is a non Arab, non Quraishi or non Hashimite, let him know that his belief in what the Prophet ASWS said, following Him in what he ordered, loving that which Allah SWT loves, imitating those whom Allah made virtues and establishing the true religion with which Muhammad was sent, all of this commands that he is better than the majority of the virtues groups, and this is true virtue." [end quote]


Abu Muhammad Harb bin Ismail al-Kirmaani, the companion of Imam Ahmad, described his book of Sunnah by saying:

"This is the belief of Imaams of knowledge, those of Athar and well known people of Sunnah, which have been taken as examples. It is the belief of scholars of Iraq, Hijaaz, Sham and others.

Whomever goes against any of these Madhaahib, attacks them or despises those adopting them is a person of Bid’ah, he would be out side of Jamaa’ah, and inconsistent with the way of Sunnah and path of truth.

It is the Madhab of Ahmad, Ishaaq bin Ibrahim bin Makhlad, Abdullah bin Azzubair alHumaidee, Sa’eed bin Mansoor, and others with whom we have sat and from whom we have acquired knowledge.

Among their sayings were: Imaan is to say, do and believe …

We are to realize for Arabs their right, virtue and early acceptance of Islam. We are to love them because the Prophet ASWS said: loving Arabs is Imaan, and disliking them is hypocrisy. Shu’oobis and low Mawaale dislike Arabs and do not admit to their virtue. This is a Bid’ah and an inconsistency with the correct way. We do not say that which they say."

This was also narrated by Ahmad himself, in the book of Ahmad bin Sa’eed alIstakhree –if it is authentic-. It is the opinion of the general group of scholars.

al-Imaam al-Haafidh Mar’ee alKarmee’s (مرعي الكرمي) wonderful book:


مسبوك الذهب في فضل العرب وشرف العلم على شرف النسب

Translation of the title: (Blocks of Gold in Demonstrating the Virtue of Arabs, and that the Nobility of Knowledge is Higher than that of Lineage):


Although the title says it all … here are excerpts from the book:

He said after establishing the virtue of the Arabs in (جنس) essence:

“There were non-Arabs who were better than thousands of Arabs. Suhaib the Rumi, Bilaal the Abyssinian, and others were each better than thousands of Arabs. In fact they were better than thousands from Quraish, Bani AlAbbaass and the family f the Prophet ASWS.”

“The virtue of the essence (جنس) does not mean the virtue of the individual in religion, which is the main objective. This is an area where feet slip. Many wrongly assume that the virtue of lineage is better than the virtue of having knowledge.”

“The honor which should be relied on is the earned honor, such as knowledge and Taqwa. This is true virtue. Not the inherit virtue which is the virtue due to lineage. The Quran, Sunnah and intelligent people have attested to this”.

“It is clear ignorance, and an embarrassing stupidity for an Arab to feel proud over a non-Arab because of lineage. Whomever does this is ignorant, arrogant and wrong.”

“Yes, if an Arab fears Allah then he will attain the virtue of Taqwaa and that of lineage. And if he does not fear Allah, then he is closer to animals … true virtue is in adhering to that which Allah SWT sent Muhammad ASWS with, not in being Arab, ‘Ajam, black, white, Bidwyn or a villager.”


so basically, the reader, after reading the above should come out with the result or conclusion that the virtue of the Arabs does not benefit them in this dunya nor the akhirah unless they have taqwa.

It does not save them from hell fire, nor does it give them any benefits in worldly matters nor is it permissable for them to feel pride over non Arabs because of it.

But just like the hadeeth of the reward of the convert over the muslim born, we accept the athaar, the narrations o the prophet without distortion. It is for no reason that the prophet made loving them a pillar of emaa nadn made hating them a pillar of nifaaq. No other nationaloity has thiseffect on emaan at all.

Manifestations of Shu’oobism:

A) Rafidah:
The less extreme sects of Shi’a denounce Shu’oobism. In fact they make a distinction between ‘Alawee Shiasm and Safawee (Rafidy) Shiasm.

Rafidah, on the other hand, incorporate Shu’oobism as a strong element in promoting their religion. They are strong believers in the virtue of the Persian blood over all other blood, including Arab blood.

This lead them to consider the killing of Omar RAA at the hands of Abu Lu’luah as the first holy act by a Persian person against forces of evil.

Dr. Ali Sharee’ati (who is an Iranian Shee’ah) said:

“For the purpose of affirming its thoughts and goals in the consciousness of people, and mixing them with their beliefs, Safawis attempted to give a religious flavor to their main personalities. They “dragged” them into the Prophetic household in order to increase in deviation. The result was a Shiaite Shu’oobi movement. It used Shiasm to give Shu’oobism a hot spiritual flavor and a touch of religious holiness. This smart goal was only attainable by converting Islam and the personality of Muhammad and Ali into a racist cult and fascist personalities, who believe in the virtue of the Persian sand and blood.”

Dr. Moosa alMoosawee, another Shiee intellect, referred in his excellent book “alThawrah alBaisah” to Khumainy’s promotion of the degradation of Arabs. Arabs were portrayed by Khomanism as a backward nation which does not keep promises and treaties.

In addition, let us not forget that Rafidah assisted the army of the Mugul to invade Baghdad. This lead to ending the ‘Abbassee Khilafah

B) Extremist Sufis:

AlJazeerah Channel made a documentary on Sufism. It revealed the degree of hearted which extreme Sufis have towards Arabs. Listen to part 6 of the documentary:

The documentary is in Arabic, but you can barely hear an English translator in the back ground.

http://www.alsoufia.com/articles.asp..._size=15&links =False&gate_id=0

C) Wallace (Waruthuddeen) Muhammad group:

- Over emphasize Arabs’ mixing of culture with religion.

- Condemn African Americans who attempt to wear Thoubs and Kufi as: blacks who are trying to be too Arab.

- Exaggerate promoting that you can be a Muslim without being an Arab. This is a fact, however, if you listen/read the way in which they present this idea, you will see clearly that they have a problem with Arabs!

- Reduce the significance of the “type of Islam” which has arrived to the West from the East. Whether by Arabs or by Muslims from the ISC.

- Promote the idea that African Americans are the ones who have the correct understanding of Islam.

so inshallah I finish with these hoping foremostly seeking the Face of Allah and in fulfilling the right of by brothers and sistrs in correcting what can be something errornous or what has already been stated as errornous.

asalamu alaikum warahmatullah


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arzafar

Junior Member
hmm...
actually i think it has to do with the fact that Arabs are blessed or chosen. it doesnt mean that arabs or any other one race is superior than the other.
I mean somebody had to be chosen right! It could have been Chinese or somebody else. Bus as it happens to be Ibrahim's (as) offspring, the chosen/blessed people are arabs!

The thread title is therefore wrong!

even today arabs are blessed in that they have it all; Makkah, Madina, the correct beliefs, language of the quran and off course oil! they also had the holy lands but they lost it to jews. They haven't exactly done anything to 'earn' these things, they were just blessed by Allah (swt).

But with blessings comes a lot of responsibility. i think today, many arabs have become arrogant and misguided. i fear there could be a severe punishment waiting. (there are many hadith which speak about muslims being punished, deformed etc)
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
:salam2: I don't believe in race superiority of any kind In fact I think that the Highlighted word here should be preferred in the past tense,and this carries with it more of a responsibility, a burden than anything else,this is how The Arabs should understand it !
Furthermore,it is an uncontroversial historical reality.

However,it is deeply my conviction that The Arabic language is without doubt superior in it's essence.And this is by personal experience that I can attest to this.

The hikma and usloob that are expressed By the Arabic tongue, It's eloquence ,It's deep connection to Islam ,and universal intellectual wisdom is so powerful and touching that who ever find himself in a comparative position will very quickly notice it's uniqueness.

What am talking about is very unlikely to be grasped for a non Arabic speaking person .Listen to this very powerful speech by Sheikh Yusuf al Quaradawi and those who speak Arabic will know what am trying to convey here.Because I wouldn't know how else I could explain it.

Wallahu Allam, Wa Aalaa Wa Ahkam.

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Sister Kalena

Junior Member
No such thing!

I hate to break it to all you smart gentlemen, but there is no such thing as the "Araba race"...Arabs are an ethnic group, not a race of people.

You are either caucasian, negroid, or mongoloid, regardless of what country you're born in.

Even though I'm a late in life, caucasian, American woman revert, I will be judged by Allah (swt) just the same as any other Muslim.

The Hellfire I touch for my sins won't be any hotter because of the above stated facts...

:blackhijab:
 

besmiralalbani

Think for yourself
I agree with,

He said after establishing the virtue of the Arabs in (جنس) essence:

“There were non-Arabs who were better than thousands of Arabs. Suhaib the Rumi, Bilaal the Abyssinian, and others were each better than thousands of Arabs. In fact they were better than thousands from Quraish, Bani AlAbbaass and the family f the Prophet ASWS.”

“The virtue of the essence (جنس) does not mean the virtue of the individual in religion, which is the main objective. This is an area where feet slip. Many wrongly assume that the virtue of lineage is better than the virtue of having knowledge.”

“The honor which should be relied on is the earned honor, such as knowledge and Taqwa. This is true virtue. Not the inherit virtue which is the virtue due to lineage. The Quran, Sunnah and intelligent people have attested to this”.

“It is clear ignorance, and an embarrassing stupidity for an Arab to feel proud over a non-Arab because of lineage. Whomever does this is ignorant, arrogant and wrong.”

“Yes, if an Arab fears Allah then he will attain the virtue of Taqwaa and that of lineage. And if he does not fear Allah, then he is closer to animals … true virtue is in adhering to that which Allah SWT sent Muhammad ASWS with, not in being Arab, ‘Ajam, black, white, Bidwyn or a villager.”


so basically, the reader, after reading the above should come out with the result or conclusion that the virtue of the Arabs does not benefit them in this dunya nor the akhirah unless they have taqwa.

It does not save them from hell fire, nor does it give them any benefits in worldly matters nor is it permissable for them to feel pride over non Arabs because of it.

I would like to see the explanation of this hadith too, that is a key for this matter - I think so!:

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“O people! Verily your Lord is One and your father [Adam] is one. An Arab is no better than a non-Arab, and a non-Arab is no better than an Arab; a red man is no better than a black man and a black man is no better than a red man – except if it is in terms of taqwa (piety)…”
(Reported by Imaam Ahmad, 22391; al-Silsilat al-Saheeh, 2700).
 

Ibn Uthaymin

Junior member
Jazakakumulla khayran.

I was under the impression that the kafir Arab is more preferred than the Ajaami Muwwahid since loving Arabs is Imaan (faith) and hating them is Nifaaq (Hypocrisy)


I understand now. Thanks for clearing it out everyone.
 

dunno

Junior Member
truth seeker if you are talking about sheik ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah i suggest you take that back and ask forgiveness from Allah Ibn Taymiyyah was without a doubt one of the best scholars in the Islamic history by Allah i have much love and respect for him he has done great things for Islam and he didn't "go crazy"
i have never seen except the people of bid'ah criticize iIbn Taymiyyah
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
There is one race...the human race. Race is an artificial idea (the whole catagorization of "caucasiod/negroid/mongaloid" is an outmoded and scientifically rejected classification now).
 

Seeker-of-truth

Junior Member
truth seeker if you are talking about sheik ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah i suggest you take that back and ask forgiveness from Allah Ibn Taymiyyah was without a doubt one of the best scholars in the Islamic history by Allah i have much love and respect for him he has done great things for Islam and he didn't "go crazy"
i have never seen except the people of bid'ah criticize iIbn Taymiyyah

Wow im very very sorry I didnt mean to slander him I do take that back im very sorry just some brother told me that now ill never trust him again im very very sorry, I will carry out my own research into the life of Sheikh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah I knew it sounded incorrect. wow I really feel bad for even saying something so disgusting about him, now I will pray for forgiveness from him and allah. Wastaghfirullah im so sorry
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
As salamu 'alikum

From last sermon of Muhammad pbuh

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Allah knows the best
As salamu 'alaikum
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
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I heard he went a bit crazy in his old age and started saying lots of other wrong stuff too

That is one of the statements of people who try to ridicule and downplay his contributions to sciences of Islam.

Even if you put aside the contributions of Ibn Tayyimiyyah rahimullah itself and just enumerate what his students and later followers contributed to various fields of knowledge in Islam. Monumental, if you ask any impartial and well informed person.

Wasalaamalaykum
 
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