question about multiple wives

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q8penpals

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Salam

Most of the questions/discussions posed on the topic of multiple wives have had to do with whether the women would want their husbands to TAKE a second (or more) wife. So, I was thinking about it the other day and wanted to post a couple different types of questions.


For the women:

1. Would you ladies be willing to be a second wife?

2. If yes, would you continue to marry the man as a second wife if you KNEW the first wife was against him marrying you?

And for the men:

If you KNEW your first wife is against you having a second wife, would you still marry a second (given the opportunity)?

Just some thoughts - and NO I am not trying to change any rulings that God has put forth, I am just interested in what actual human beings would do in the situations.

Lana
 

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asalamualayklum,

from a brothers point of view

i wouldnt marry a second wife if the first wife was REALLY agaisnt the idea but if she was like 'ok do want you wan but im not feeling it' il be like
'trust me i know what im doing'.
 

wantobeMumin

Junior Member
salamu alaykum

so the story goes like this. My father who lives in pakistan married a women and couldnt have any baby with her. he waited 20 years with her. it was in 70's when there was very less advancment in medical feild. So he asked her to let him marry again, she allowed him and he did got married again. now he had two wivies he was equally taking care of them. he then had five babies with his new wife. I am the 4rth one. when i was born i was given to his first wife. she brought me up. moral of the story is that both of my mothers sacrificed for each other's happiness. have a nice day
 

danial

Junior Member
also, the thing is, muslim men are only allowed to have multiple wives if he can treat them equally..

but the thing is, I MY VIEW, there can actually never be such as thing as equal.(mayb onli the prophet since he was close to perfection). but i dont think any other mere men can ever treat his wives equally. 49% on the first wife to 51% on the second wife. close, but not equal.

maybe my views are very strong, i hope it doesnt offend anyone. but i think the role of women in the past 100 years have changed. from the time of muhammad, to the victorian ages, to the elizabethan ages, to the modern era, to now, women were once seen as mere objects. Now they are not.(im happy women have risen)

so, id like to state my stand again, that i dont think men show marry more than one as as mere human beings we can NEVER treat 2 wives equally. some way or another we may favor the other ever by 0.000000000000000001% more than the other.
 
Salaamalikum,

As a man, I can barely take care of myself let alone a 2nd wife. One wife is enough headache for me haha :fighta:
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
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salam aleikum


For the women:

1. Would you ladies be willing to be a second wife?

2. If yes, would you continue to marry the man as a second wife if you KNEW the first wife was against him marrying you?

NO

waaleikum salam
 

Libinette

Umm Zubayr
I can't answer the first one, it all depends on soo many things, so many that i can't answer and anyway that is NOT something i think about everyday :D haha on a serious note, everyone is different so choices are different too :)
 

mali1

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also, the thing is, muslim men are only allowed to have multiple wives if he can treat them equally..

but the thing is, I MY VIEW, there can actually never be such as thing as equal.(mayb onli the prophet since he was close to perfection). but i dont think any other mere men can ever treat his wives equally. 49% on the first wife to 51% on the second wife. close, but not equal.

maybe my views are very strong, i hope it doesnt offend anyone. but i think the role of women in the past 100 years have changed. from the time of muhammad, to the victorian ages, to the elizabethan ages, to the modern era, to now, women were once seen as mere objects. Now they are not.(im happy women have risen)

so, id like to state my stand again, that i dont think men show marry more than one as as mere human beings we can NEVER treat 2 wives equally. some way or another we may favor the other ever by 0.000000000000000001% more than the other.

Daniel,

I agree with you that its difficult to maintain equality to the decimel point. However, this is not a science and nor is it maths. Its striving to give equality to both the wives.

As far as I am concerned, I am against having more than one wife .. no matter what..Allahuakbar
 

Munaqaba23

Junior Member
Difficult question!

Salam

For the women:

1. Would you ladies be willing to be a second wife?

2. If yes, would you continue to marry the man as a second wife if you KNEW the first wife was against him marrying you?

Lana

Assalamu alaikum

It seems all sisters have given the same answers, so I hope my answer doesn't shock anyone :shymuslima1:

First I want to let you know, that I am already married, and I am the first wife. And my husband has made it very clear that he doesn't want other wives.

1. BUT before the time I got married, the idea about being a second/third/fourth wife didn't feel strange to me. Of course such man, who takes many wives, must be a strong Muslim and able to take care of all the wives in the way Qur'an describes. And this kind of man is not so easy to find...

2. First of all, the first wife is not allowed to forbid something from her husband, for which Allah has given a permission.
BUT, I don't think the husband would be able to be equal to the wives, if one of them is not happy with the situation...
Difficult question, I can't give a clear answer. Alhamdulillaah I am not in that kind of situation... :hijabi:


:wasalam:
 
As I understand it, Inshallah, it is Bida to make Haram what almighty Allah has made Halal. If Allah makes a thing Halal and you deny a Muslim the right to enjoy that Mercy, you are in grave error.
Further, if you allow another person to make laws for you that contradict Allah's Laws, you are guilty of Shirk.
My Mother, may Allah bless her, has very recently married a man who is already married and they are very happy indeed. His first wife has made my Mum a suit and they have each bought one another gifts.
His children are really happy about it, though they are quite young and seem to just enjoy the novelty of the situation at the moment.
The only people who are objecting are the usual suspects, the local Pakistanis who put culture before Islam. May Allah forgive them and guide them to the straight path.
Do you think you know better than Him that created the Heavens and the Earth and made you from naught?
 

proud of islam

ISLAM FOREVER
thanks brother

thanks brother i am lady who is willing to get marry if my hausband like's to have second wife i will let him have it because God will be happy
 

Munawar

Striving for Paradise
Assalam-o-alikum wa ramatallah-e Wabarakatu

:mashallah: brother "AbdrRahim al Haq" and sister "proud of islam" great answers ... you got A+. I have the same feeling that we creation should not forbid something which is allowed by our creator. I am married and I have no intension of having another wife, but I would not forbid it either. Because men are only allowed to have more than one wife, it is not compulsary.

I think this was just a TEST to see who prefer their own feeling over Allah's command. Life is nothing but a Test and an illusion.
:wasalam:
 

Sophie

Junior Member
Salam

Most of the questions/discussions posed on the topic of multiple wives have had to do with whether the women would want their husbands to TAKE a second (or more) wife. So, I was thinking about it the other day and wanted to post a couple different types of questions.


For the women:

1. Would you ladies be willing to be a second wife?

2. If yes, would you continue to marry the man as a second wife if you KNEW the first wife was against him marrying you?

And for the men:

If you KNEW your first wife is against you having a second wife, would you still marry a second (given the opportunity)?

Just some thoughts - and NO I am not trying to change any rulings that God has put forth, I am just interested in what actual human beings would do in the situations.

Lana

:salam2: I can't talk about second wife because I am first wife who is seriously considering a second wife for us. I can not bear children and I want very much for my love,my husband,to have children.Right now he and I are talking about this seriously. Honestly I am thinking very hard about it. I am considering all sides to this. Such as, I want this now..but how will I feel should we actually marry a second wife. Will I find myself jealous of her? I dont know. So I am giving this much thought. My husband say's he will never take a second wife if I say no to it.:wasalam: :hijabi:
 

muharram23

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Im sure that all the sisters here would love to be the wife of resulullulah s.v.s. And if yes, then definitelly they wouldnt be 2nd, 3rd, nor 4th, but how about 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th and so on. And besides that having many slave women. This was all the practice during the time of resulullullah s.v.s and the sahaba, and the generations after. Only now, when khilafah is gone, and no shariah is practiced except saudi arabia is when the west has to much effect on our muslim brothers and sisters. Allah s.v.a mentions in the quran to marry 2,3,4 and then saying if we are wouried of injustice then to marry one. But c how Allah s.v.a started with the plural first and then 1. He s.v.a could have started with marry 1,2,3,or 4, but he didnt. So, there is great wisdom behind it. It was not a problem throughout centuries, only nowdays when the kuffar are telling us how bad and mistreating to the women that is. To them is not ok to mary more than one wife, but it's ok to have one and cheat with dozen others. Sulayman a.s had 1000 women, davood a.s had 100 women. So, who is better, us or the prophets? When sisters can't except this, this tells how strong their iman is. Sisters should accept this as it is and know that ALlah s.va wouldnt prescribe something without knowing that it is good for us. Plus we all know that there is way more women then man in the world, especially after so many wars. Who is going to marry all the widows from iraq/bosnia,afghanistan and so on. Are they going to go to prostituiton to make money? One of the signs of day of judgment is that there will be 50women to one man ration 50:1. So, if this one man marries one out of the 50. Who will marry the rest 49? Or if there are 200 women and 100 men. So if 100 men marry 100 women who will mary the other 100? Anyways this is the sunnah of Alllah s.v.a and resulullullah that was practiced for 1400 yrs and even before. Only now days sisters believe that if a man maries another, he will totally neglect the other. May Allah guide us all to the right path and accept everthing from quran and sunnah and not bits and pieces. ameen. Down below you can read further.


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I was really into becoming a Muslim. I came to this site to find out how to become Muslim, on doing so I found out alot about the religion I never knew before, and it's kind of disturbing and almost a let down. I'm sorry I feel like that but it's true. One of the things that bother me is the polygamy thing, I would like to know where it addresses that in the Holy Qu'ran, please try to give me tips on how to live like that and remain sane?

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Praise be to Allaah.

Allaah concluded His Message to mankind with the religion of Islam, and He tells us that He will not accept any religion other than that. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

Your backing away from the religion of Islam is considered to be a loss for you, and a loss of the happiness that awaited you, had you entered Islam. You should hasten to enter Islam, and beware of delaying, for that delay may lead to regrettable consequences.

With regard to what you mention about the reason for your backing off being the idea of plural marriage [polygamy or polygyny], we will present to you the ruling on plural marriage in Islam, and then the wisdom and noble purposes behind it.

1 – The ruling on plural marriage in Islam:

The shar’i text which permits plural marriage is:

Allaah says in His Holy Book (interpretation of the meaning):

“And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice”

[al-Nisa’ 4:3]

This is a Qur’aanic text which shows that plural marriage is allowed. According to Islamic sharee’ah, a man is permitted to marry one, two, three or four wives, in the sense that he may have this number of wives at one time. It is not permissible for him to have more than four. This was stated by the mufassireen (commentators on the Qur’aan) and fuqaha’ (jurists), and there is consensus among the Muslims on this point, with no differing opinions.

It should be noted that there are conditions attached to plural marriage:

1 – Justice or fairness.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one”

[al-Nisa’ 4:3]

This aayah is indicates that just treatment is a condition for plural marriage to be permitted. If a man is afraid that he will not be able to treat his wives justly if he marries more than one, then it is forbidden for him to marry more than one. What is meant by the justice that is required in order for a man to be permitted to have more than one wife is that he should treat his wives equally in terms of spending, clothing, spending the night with them and other material things that are under his control.

With regard to justice or fairness in terms of love, he is not held accountable for that, and that is not required of him because he has no control over that. This is what is meant by the verse,

“You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire”

[al-Nisa’ 4:129 – interpretation of the meaning].

2 – The ability to spend on one’s wives:

The evidence for this condition is the verse:

“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allaah enriches them of His Bounty”

[al-Noor 24:33 – interpretation of the meaning]

In this verse Allaah commands those who are able to get married but cannot find the financial means, to remain chaste. One such example is not having enough money to pay the mahr (dowry) and not being able to spend on one’s wife. (al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, part 6, p. 286).

2 – The wisdom behind permitting plural marriage

1 – Plural marriage helps to increase the numbers of the ummah (nation, Muslim community). It is known that the numbers can only be increased through marriage, and the number of offspring gained through plural marriage will be greater than that achieved through marriage to one wife.

Wise people know that increasing the number of offspring will strengthen the ummah and increase the number of workers in it, which will raise its economic standard – if the leaders run the affairs of state well and make use of its resources in a proper manner. Ignore the claims of those who say that increasing the numbers of human beings poses a danger to the earth’s resources which are insufficient, for Allaah the Most Wise Who has prescribed plural marriage has guaranteed to provide provision for His slaves and has created on earth what is more than sufficient for them. Whatever shortfall exists is due to the injustice of administrations, governments and individuals, and due to bad management. Look at China, for example, the greatest nation on earth as far as number of inhabitants is concerned, and it is regarded as one of the strongest nations in the world, and other nations would think twice before upsetting China; it is also one of the great industrialized nations. Who would dare think of attacking China, I wonder? And why?

2 – Statistics show that the number of women is greater than the number of men; if each man were to marry just one woman, this would mean that some women would be left without a husband, which would have a harmful effect on her and on society:

The harmful effect is that she would never find a husband to take care of her interests, to give her a place to live, to spend on her, to protect her from haraam desires, and to give her children to bring her joy. This may lead to deviance and going astray, except for those on whom Allaah has mercy.

With regard to the harmful effects on society, it is well known that this woman who is left without a husband may deviate from the straight path and follow the ways of promiscuity, so she may fall into the swamp of adultery and prostitution – may Allaah keep us safe and sound – which leads to the spread of immorality and the emergence of fatal diseases such as AIDS and other contagious diseases for which there is no cure. It also leads to family breakdown and the birth of children whose identity is unknown, and who do not know who their fathers are.

Those children do not find anyone to show compassion towards them or any mature man to raise them properly. When they go out into the world and find out the truth, that they are illegitimate, that is reflected in their behaviour, and they become exposed to deviance and going astray. They may even bear grudges against society, and who knows? They may become the means of their country’s destruction, leaders of deviant gangs, as is the case in many nations in the world.

3 – Men are exposed to incidents that may end their lives, for they work in dangerous professions. They are the soldiers who fight in battle, and more men may die than women. This is one of the things that raise the percentage of husbandless women, and the only solution to this problem is plural marriage.

4 – There are some men who may have strong physical desires, for whom one wife is not enough. If the door is closed to such a man and he is told, you are not allowed more than one wife, this will cause great hardship to him, and his desire may find outlets in forbidden ways.

In addition to that, a woman menstruates each month, and when she gives birth, she bleeds for forty days (this post-partum bleeding is called nifaas in Arabic), at which time a man cannot have intercourse with his wife, because intercourse at the time of menstruation or nifaas is forbidden, and the harm that it causes has been proven medically. So plural marriage is permitted when one is able to be fair and just.

5 – Plural marriage does not exist only in the Islamic religion, rather it was known among the previous nations. Some of the Prophets were married to more than one woman. The Prophet of Allaah Sulaymaan (Solomon) had ninety wives. At the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), there were some men who became Muslims who had eight or five wives. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to keep four wives and to divorce the rest.

6 – A wife may be barren, or she may not meet her husband’s needs, or he may be unable to have intercourse with her because she is sick. A husband may long to have children, which is a legitimate desire, and he may want to have a sex life within marriage, which is something permissible, and the only way is to marry another wife. It is only fair for the wife to agree to remain his wife and to allow him to marry another.

7 – A woman may be one of the man’s relatives and have no one to look after her, and she is unmarried or a widow whose husband has died, and the man may think that the best thing to do for her is to include her in his household as a wife along with his first wife, so that he will both keep her chaste and spend on her. This is better for her than leaving her alone and being content only to spend on her.

8 – There are other shar’i interests that call for plural marriages, such as strengthening the bonds between families, or strengthening the bonds between a leader and some of his people or group, and he may think that one of the ways of achieving this aim is to become related to them through marriage, even if that is through plural marriage.

Objection:

Some people may object and say that plural marriage means having co-wives in one house, and that the disputes and enmity that may arise between co-wives will have an effect on the husband, children and others, and this is harmful and should be avoided, and the only way to prevent that is to ban plural marriage.

Response to the objection:

The response to that is that family arguments may occur even when there is only one wife, and they may not even happen when there is more than one wife, as we see in real life. Even if we assume that there may be more arguments than in a marriage to one wife, even if we accept that they may be harmful and bad, the harm is outweighed by the many good things in a plural marriage. Life is not entirely bad or entirely good, but what everyone hopes is that the good will outweigh the bad, and this principle is what applies in the permission for plural marriage.

Moreover, each wife has the right to her own, separate accommodation as prescribed in Islam. It is not permissible for the husband to force his wives to live together in one house.

Another objection:

If we allow men to have plural wives, why are women not allowed to have multiple husbands, why does a woman not have the right to marry more than one man?

Response to this objection:

There is no point in giving a woman the right to marry multiple husbands, rather that is beneath her dignity and she would not know the lineage of her children, because she is the one who bears the offspring, and it is not permissible for the offspring to be formed from the sperm of a number of men lest the lineage of the child be lost and no one will know who is responsible for bringing up the child; this will lead to breakdown of families, loss of ties between fathers and children, which is not permitted in Islam as it is not in the interests of the woman or of the child or of society as a whole.

Al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, part 6, p. 290

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ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Salaam,

I do not believe the sisters have anything about making it haram, since that's not within any human's ability. Nor are we forbidding the halaal. It's quite simple...my future husband is free to marry a second wife, as it is his right in Islam. Versely I am free to divorce him as is my halaal right in Islam.

~Sarah
 

shahidah123

Junior Member
MasyaAllah. What a topic ! Anyway, who are we to argue with Allah s.w.t., our Creator ? If your husband meet the requirements & wants to take 1,2 or 3 more, MasyaAllah. This probationary life on earth is only a test & trial to see who amongst us are best in amal. MasyaAllah, there are many more women in Hell than men. MasyaALLAH.:hijabi: Astarghfirullahalazim.
 
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