Bye TTI

[revert2007]

i am leaving TTI because i find that some of the things being discuss here kinda confuse me such as people prefer what imam hanafi said rather than what our prophet said.i don't want to be here and keep on wondering what i am doing is right or wrong.the main reason i am on TTI is because of doing dawah to others.it is ok.i can find my own way to dawah to others.IT was really nice being here and i really enjoyed my time.it is just that i cant accept anything without the reference from Quran and prophets sunnah.salam.may Allah blesses u all.

 

[allah is with me]

i am leaving TTI because i find that some of the things being discuss here kinda confuse me such as people prefer what imam hanafi said rather than what our prophet said.i don't want to be here and keep on wondering what i am doing is right or wrong.the main reason i am on TTI is because of doing dawah to others.it is ok.i can find my own way to dawah to others.IT was really nice being here and i really enjoyed my time.it is just that i cant accept anything without the reference from Quran and prophets sunnah.salam.may Allah blesses u all.

sister if you feel anything wrong , then plz tell us .... dont leave the forum..... at least give us a warning , before leaving.... ' that you dont like these kind of stuffs, so plz stop such things.' oh sis.. plz dont leave the forum...

 

[Mabsoot]

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

Our Islaam is based purely upon the Qur'aan and Sunnah with the understanding of the early Muslims.

It is important to stick to the original sources, just as you have said.

Many Muslims, especially Revert Muslims, choose to teach themselves Islaam through books, lectures, videos, the internet. There are many problems to doing this that should be avoided. Without a proper teacher or a guide, one who has the combination of true knowledge and experience, the problems of the ego and desires can confuse and lead us all astray quite easily.

The one with "true knowledge" is the one who is dedicated to the original teachings of Islaam, that is purely from the Qur'aan and the authentic Sunnah. On top of that, it is important that they have the correct understanding. - We do not give our own understanding or "feelings" to what we think the Qur'an or the Sunnah means. We need to understand it exactly how the early Muslims understood it, for they were the ones who were closest to the Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wa salam) and his time.

Therefore, we should look to see what the noble scholars of our time say on issues,

The Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wa salam) said>>

Allaah subahaana wa ta'alaa said:

“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]So ask the people of Knowledge if you do not know”[/FONT]​

[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif][Soorah An-Nahl (16): 43][/FONT]

and..

“…[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]The superiority of the knowledgeable man over the worshipper in Islam, is like the superiority of the full moon over the rest of the planets. And the scholars are the inheritors of the Prophets, but the Prophets did not leave behind wealth but they left behind knowledge. And whoever takes firm hold of this is a very fortunate man." [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif][Abu Dawood, Ibn Majah, [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]Tirmidhi # 2835 Sahih hadeeth][/FONT]​

I suggest that as a sister, you make friends with good righteous sisters who are able to help you towards that right understanding inshaAllah. - The TTI team, the moderators are carefully chosen, a lot of them are reverts like yourself. InshaAllaah, they will present you with the right information and make things easier for you. I hope that you can be close in contact with them. Send them a PM, add them to your MSN, inshaAllah they will be very willing to help you.

You should not leave like so, we are all here to help each other.

The Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wa salam) said:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"You should not be envious of one another, you should not turn your backs on one another, and boycott one another. Instead you should be Brethren; Servants ofAllaah... and helping one another towards that cause.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]" [Sahih Muslim][/FONT]

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[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Here we try to follow the `aqeedah of the salaf us-saalih. We don't give preference to the sayings of one Imaam over another, except that it is closer to the truth. And we do not give preference to the statement of any Imaam, if it is in contradiction with what has been reported and understood, from the Prophet sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam. So what you have seen on a few occassions, is not what we propagate overall.

Also, there are cases where people don't reference their posts, and we try to advise or remove whenever this is the case. Perhaps you could pm me or another mod with the thread URLs you are talking about. Also, if you don't do so already you can always reply to these threads asking for the reference inshaa' Allaah.

Allaah knows best.

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

Sister, pls don't make me appealing to you. You have been contributing a lot since you joined. I agree what you have said, I follow figh of Imam Shafee but I'm not so pious to argue what Imam Abu Hanifah's view about aurat. I do agree foot is aurat for women...if I'm the one hurt you pls forgive me.

 

[IbnAdam77]

assalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh my dear sister

You have joined the family in this month and have been really really active here. I always liked to dead your posts as they are very informative and TO THE POINT always.

You are truly a teacher to me. We need your help my sister.

As per the real problem, Allah (subuhaanahu wata'aala) says in Holy Quran. "O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Apostle and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Apostle, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end."[4.59]

So the issue here is very clear. We all respect our four Madhabi Imams. All of them have said to take the word of Allah and Rasoolullah (sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam) if we see any difference between their words and the words of Quran and Sunnah. Imam Shafi'i said, " If I say something, then compare it to the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His messenger and if it agrees to them, then accept it and that which goes against them, then reject it and throw my saying against the wall." See Al-Majmoo’ of an-Nawawee (1/63).

So my sister, we know the 'aurat of men and women with the mercy of Allah very clearly from Quran and Sunnah. You said it correct in your post. What I believe is that other brothers and sisters also said it not from their mind but referring to a famous book of an 'Ulama. So let us all try together to Promote al-Haqq. Let us leave small problems between us and focus on the Big Picture.

Remember I am not an 'Ulama so I cannot issue Fatwa on issues. I can only say what I have learnt from 'Ulama.

Please do not make this a reason for leaving us my sister. Together we can do it inshaAllah.

Hope you will wait with us and contribute more, helping people like me to learn.

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

Our sister is not leaving us, I managed to persuade her. I've a humble request to the moderator, pls close this thread.

 

[um muhammad al-mahdi]

:salam2:

if you really want to do "dawah" you need lots of patience, not just turning away from the people you are talking to

 

[slaveofAllah88]

aslam o alikum
sister Dont go, there are many times you might come across things in life that will cause confusion the best thing to do is follow the right way which goes according to quran and sunnah.
YOu have been posting mashallah really beneficial topics and discussion it would be sad if u left
walaikum salam
I Hope u decide to stay

 

[ahmed_indian]

:salam2:,

why do our brothers and sisters runn away frm this forum?

in basic matters, we are same. in secondary matters, if some muslims prefer opinion of imam hanafi or imam shafi, we should not worry much.

those scholars did not speak of their desires or wishes. they were far above from it. they took their knowledge and guidance from Quran and sunnah.

in these times, we should unite under banner of Islam and not divide over petty matters

agree?

 

[Muslimah16]

Sister... please dont go.
Im back aswell For you guyz .. please please please do not go.
Like a brother posted on another thread.. u can just pop in every now and then. No need to leave inshaAllah.
Hope you change your mind inshaAllah.

 

[AyeshaL]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

I think we all (including myself) need to remember that we are all still learning and that the forum allows us to compare our opinions, discussing them until we can educate ourselves and others and reach a conclusion - even if that is 'And Allah knows best'. If there is a difference of opinion surely it is better to ask why? If it is Hanifi fiqh that says we can uncover our feet, surely it is interesting if nothing else, to find out why! Everyone is right to question why - otherwise we cannot learn and develop ourselves. Perhaps a sister who uncovers her feet and believes this is correct could tell us why she does so in order that we can all learn and be allowed to decide for ourselves? Allah gave us our intellects so we can do this!

I think it's difficult to understand why there are discrepancies between Muslims over issues like this but, even if you don't want to follow a school of thought (I dont because I havent learnt enough to know which / if any I should follow yet), it is interesting to know the differences. People don't just follow blindly (well, not all!) so there must be reasons. I'm glad you've decided to stay so we can all continue to learn together.

Wasalaam, Ayesha

Wasalaam,

Ayesha

 

[massi]

:salam2:
where are you leaving ???
do you think we don't know there are doctrines here !!! so when you go out ....
will you not find other people with other stuff ??? how you know it's right or wrong if you don't have a trust guide or rights basic !!! :astag::astag::astag:
اhere you go
Our attitude towards differences among the scholars
If there is some issue and there is more than one shar’i fatwa concerning it, and a fatwa that says it is halaal (permissible) and a fatwa that says it is haraam (forbidden), and a fatwa that is in between, then which should the Muslim choose, especially with regard to modern issues in which qiyaas (analogy) and ijtihaad (studying an issue within the framework of the Qur’aan and Sunnah) may play a part, and concerning which there is no shar’i text, such as bank interest, or what we call investments or returns on investment, or any other new names that are given to it?
What do you say about people who say that this is the fatwa of a scholar, and that he is responsible for it, and that it is hung around his neck?
What is your view on one who follows the dispensations granted by the scholars or the easier options that they grant? They say that these are the people of knowledge and these are their fatwas, and they know better than we do about that? But their fatwa may go against the fatwas of other shaykhs and scholars in the same country or in other countries, so which of them should we follow? How can we know what is right and what is not? Please note that most people do not have sufficient knowledge to decide whether the fatwa issued by a scholar or mufti differs from those issued by other scholars.

Praise be to Allaah.

Before answering this important question, we must first describe the conditions that must be met by the mufti so that he may be regarded as one of the people of knowledge whose words count and if he expresses a different view we may then say that there is indeed a difference of opinion among the scholars. There are many such conditions, which ultimately boil down to two:

1 – Knowledge, because the mufti will be telling people about the rulings of Allaah, and he cannot speak of the rulings of Allaah if he is ignorant of them.

2 – Soundness of character, i.e., he is righteous in all his affairs, he fears Allaah and he keeps away from anything that may undermine his credibility. The scholars are agreed that a fatwa cannot be accepted from one who is immoral, even if he is knowledgeable. This was clearly stated by al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadi.

Whoever meets these two conditions is a scholar whose words may be accepted, but whoever does not meet these conditions is not one of the people of knowledge whose words may be accepted. The words of one who is known to be ignorant or who is known not to be of good character cannot be accepted.

Al-Khilaaf bayna al-‘Ulama’ Asbaabuhu wa Mawqifuna minhu, by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, p. 23

What is the Muslim’s attitude towards the differences of the scholars described above?

If the Muslim has enough knowledge to enable him to compare the views of the scholars based on the evidence and to decide which is more likely to be correct, and he can tell what is more correct and more likely to be correct, then he must do that, because Allaah has commanded us to refer disputed matters to the Qur’aan and Sunnah, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allaah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allaah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination”[al-Nisa’ 4:59]

So he should refer the disputed matter to the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and whatever appears to him to be more correct, based on the evidence, is what he should follow, because what is obligatory is to follow the evidence, and he may refer to the words of the scholars to help him understand the evidence.

But if the Muslim does not have sufficient knowledge to enable him to decide which of the scholarly opinions is more likely to be correct, then he should ask the people of knowledge whose knowledge and religious commitment he trusts and then follow the advice or fatwas they give. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“So ask the people of the Reminder if you do not know”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:43]

The scholars have stated that the madhhab of the common man is the madhhab of his mufti.

If their opinions differ, then he should follow the one who is most trustworthy and most knowledgeable. This is like when a person falls sick – may Allaah give us all good health – and he looks for the most trustworthy and knowledgeable doctor so that he can go to him, because he is most likely to give him the right treatment than anyone else. It is more important to be on the safe side in religious matters than in worldly ones.

It is not permissible for the Muslim to follow whatever scholarly opinion suits his desires if it goes against the evidence, or to seek fatwas from those who he thinks are going to be lenient in their fatwas.

Rather he has to be on the safe side when it comes to his religion, and ask the scholars who have the most knowledge and are most fearing of Allaah.

Al-Khilaaf bayna al-‘Ulama’ by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 26; Liqa’ Munawwa’ ma’a Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, p. 25, 26

Is it befitting for a wise man to take precautions for his physical health and go to the most skilled doctors no matter how far away they are, and spend a great deal of money on that, then take the matter of his religion lightly and not to care about it unless it coincides with his whims and desires, and to take the easiest fatwa even if it is contrary to the truth? Indeed, there are even people who – Allaah forbid – ask a scholar a question, and if his fatwa does not suit their whims and desires, they will ask another, and another, until they find a person who will give them the fatwa they want!

There is no scholar who does not have some issues in which he strove to make a decision on the basis of ijtihaad but failed to reach the right answer, but he is excused for that and he will have a reward for his ijtihaad, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “If a judge passes a ruling to the best of his ability and knowledge and gets it right, he will have two rewards. If he passes a ruling to the best of his ability and knowledge but gets it wrong, he will have one reward.” (al-Bukhaari, 7352; Muslim, 1716).

It is not permissible for the Muslim to follow the errors and mistakes of the scholars, for that combines all kinds of evil. Hence the scholars said: whoever follows that concerning which the scholars differed, and takes the easiest of their fatwas, becomes a heretic, or close enough. Ighaathat al-Lahfaan, 1/228. Heresy means hypocrisy.

We ask Allaah to give us understanding and to help us to acquire beneficial knowledge and to do righteous deeds.

With regard to what you mention about bank profits, this has already been answered. Please see Questions no. 181 and 12823.

And Allaah knows best. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and grant him peace.
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
From Here ​

 

[fada_all]

:salam2:

if you really want to do "dawah" you need lots of patience, not just turning away from the people you are talking to

salam alikom


i do agree with you sister ,this is life like it is full of good times it is fulm od bad ones , and should be wise before taking a quick decision please sister , re-think again don't leave because of some ideas ,try to discuss them with us all we will insha allah find a logical and the right answer, no one is perfect except allah swt , so we are here to correct each other's mistake and guide each other so please if you would mind no leaving us and JAZAKI ALLAH KHIR KATIR ..

may allah guide us all to the right path

ur sis