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IHearIslam

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Assalamu Alaikum beloved TTI family:D

hope this reaches you in the best of health/imaan:D

got a question again.........

ok let's see, is your fasting valid if you eat few minutes before fajr.......like five to three minutes away??

jazakaAllah khairan for the asnwer,
Allah bless you with jannah,
your sister in Islam:D
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
Wa 'alaikkumus salam wa rahmathullah sister, its fine as long as you finish eating before fajr kicks in. In the west its kinda dodgy (i mean the time tables), so I finish eating atleast 10 minutes before the actual fajr time starts. May Allah make it easy for you sister, ameen
 

IHearIslam

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Assalamu Alaikum brothers:D:D:D:D:D

aaaaahhh, I love TTI memebers, you guys always come to the rescue!!!
you know brother Ahmed, aint no Adhan here so we're stuck with time tables as brother Thariq mentioned:( and it's hard sometimes.....but phewwwwwwwww! I was freaking out ! and how meciful Allah is and how easy our religion is !subhanaAllah, waliAllahul hamd!:D:D:D:D
again, jazakumuAllah khairan!!!:D:D:D:D
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
yea!!

Wa 'alaikkumus salam wa rahmathullah sister, its fine as long as you finish eating before fajr kicks in. In the west its kinda dodgy (i mean the time tables), so I finish eating atleast 10 minutes before the actual fajr time starts. May Allah make it easy for you sister, ameen

aha, tell me about it! I used to do that toooo, but you know today LOL.....I woke up late, lol
so i rushed my sahuur and stuff and I was counting the minutes!! ya Allah, it was a scene there with me....lol
but Alhamduliallah our deen is easy :D:D::D
ameen to your dua brother!:D:D:D
I ask Allah the same for you and much more!
salamu Alaikum:SMILY139:
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
if u cant hear the adhan and u do not hv the timetable..u can eat till u see the read line on sky which determines the sun is gonna rise...
 

IHearIslam

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better practice is to end eating 10 to 15 minutues.

I know, I know brother:D, but you know.......I woke up late thats why:shymuslima1: I used to do that before tooo, but today was messed up for me LOL
so jazakaAllah khairan for the reminder!:D
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
if u cant hear the adhan and u do not hv the timetable..u can eat till u see the read line on sky which determines the sun is gonna rise...

o0h yea...NO sun these days since it's almost winter:(:(
and yea, it's getting chiilllly too LOL
but I have the computer to Adhaan and I have a line to call that serves as a time table for me....:D:D:D:D:D
so I use those AlhamduliAllah..:D:D:D:D:D
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
aha, tell me about it! I used to do that toooo, but you know today LOL.....I woke up late, lol
so i rushed my sahuur and stuff and I was counting the minutes!! ya Allah, it was a scene there with me....lol
but Alhamduliallah our deen is easy :D:D::D
ameen to your dua brother!:D:D:D
I ask Allah the same for you and much more!
salamu Alaikum:SMILY139:

Since its not a obligatory fast you could have either skipped it, if you did not feel right about it :) But oh well the point is that you done before a good amount of time in shaAllah. Ameen for your duas, and May Allah accept from you your ibadah, ameen.
 

island muslim

Junior Member
As Salaam Alaiykum Warahmatallah,

I just want to post what Sheikh Albani said on this matter for you brothers and sisters. Hope its helpful Inshaallah.

From :Sunnahs Neglected in Ramadhan By Imaam al-Albaani
Source: Silsilah al-Hudaa wan-Noor, Tape No. 590


Then the other matter which I want to remind of is what occurs in the previous hadeeth, "And they delay the pre-dawn meal" Meaning: what is required here is the opposite to the case of the Iftaar. So he, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, commanded us to hasten to perform the Iftaar. But as for the Suhoor, then it should be delayed. But what happens today is totally contrary to this, since many people eat their Suhoor before the appearance of Fajr by perhaps an hour. This is not befitting. This is contrary to the Sunnah shown by the saying of the Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, and by his practice. So the Companions of the Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, used to leave the Suhoor so late, that one of them would almost hear the Adhaan and he would still be eating. He delayed the Suhoor. Indeed there is an authentic hadeeth reported from the Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, which shows the ease afforded by Islaam, which is to be counted as one of the principles of Islaam, which the Muslims are proud of, especially with regard to the matter of Fasting, since Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, concluded the aayahs concerning Fasting with His Saying:
Allah desires ease for you, and He does not desire to make things difficult for you.
So from this ease is his, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, saying, "If one of you hears the call to Prayer and the vessel is in the hand of one of you, then let him not put it down until he fulfils his need from it."
"If one of you hears the call to Prayer,"and he has had his fill of whatever he was eating, then it is not allowed for him to then have any more, whether it be a drink, or some fruit."
But as for the one who hears the Adhaan and he has not yet taken what he needs from the food and the drink, then the Messenger, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, made that lawful for him. So he clearly said, in the clear and eloquent Arabic language, "If one of you hears the call to Prayer, and the vessel is in his hand, then let him not put it down until he fulfils his need from it."
And what is meant here by the call is the second call, the second Adhaan. It is not the first Adhaan, which they wrongly call the Adhaan for withholding (al-Imsaak). We must know that there is no basis for calling the first Adhaan the Adhaan for withholding (imsaak).
The second Adhaan is when we are to withhold, and this is clearly stated in the Quraan, since Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, says: And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes clear to you from the black thread of the night.
So eating becomes forbidden at the start of the time of the Fajr Prayer. There is no separation between these two things. There is no withholding from food and drink for a quarter of an hour, or less than that, or more than that, before the start of the time for the Fajr Prayer. Not at all. Because the Prayer becomes due when the true dawn appears, and food becomes forbidden for the Fasting person when the true dawn appears. So there is no separation between these two matters at all.
So therefore there occurs in the hadeeth agreed upon by al-Bukharee and Muslim, from the hadeeth of ¹Abdullaah ibn ¹Umar ibn al-Khattaab, radiyAllahu ¹anhumaa, that the Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, said, "Let not the Adhaan of Bilaal deceive you," meaning, the first Adhaan, "because he gives the Adhaan in order to awaken the person who is sleeping, and so that the person who wishes to eat the pre-dawn meal can do so. So eat and drink until Ibn Umm Maktoon gives the Adhaan."
Ibn Umm Maktoon, and his name was 'Amr, he was a blind man, and he was the one about whom the Saying of Allah, the Exalted and Most High, came down: He frowned and turned away, that the blind man came to him." to the end of the Aayahs.
So he used to give the second Adhaan, the Adhaan which means that eating becomes prohibited, and that it is now time for the Fajr Prayer.
How had he used to give the adhaan when he was blind? This is a question which naturally occurs to some people. So 'Amr ibn Umm Maktoom used to climb upon the roof of the mosque, and he could not see the dawn, but he would wait until someone passing by saw the dawn. So when someone saw that the dawn had appeared and spread across the horizon, then they would say to him, It is morning. It is morning. Then he would give the Adhaan.
So you will notice here that the Adhaan of 'Amr ibn Umm Maktoom was after the Fajr had appeared, and had been seen by the people whilst they were walking in the streets. So the when it was said to him, "It is morning. It is morning," he would give the Adhaan.
So therefore there is latitude in the affair, since the muadhdhin would be delayed in giving the Adhaan until he heard the people telling him, "It is morning, it is morning." And then Allah¹s Messenger, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, said, "If one of you hears the call to Prayer and the vessel is in his hand, then let him not put it down until he has fulfilled his need from it."
So Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, spoke truly when He said at the end of those Aayahs relating to Fasting: Allah desires to make things easy for you, and He does not desire to make things difficult for you.
and,
And that you should complete the number of days, and that you should glorify Allah by mentioningtakbeer for His having guided you, and that you should be thankful.
So therefore from the Fiqh that is to be criticised, and which runs contrary to this Sunnah, is that a person says, "If someone hears the Adhaan and has some food in his mouth, then he must spit it out." So this is over-strictness, and (ghuluww) exceeding the limits in the Religion, and the Lord of all of the creation admonished us, and reminded us, in His Book and in the Sunnah of His Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, that we should not exceed the due limits in our Religion. So He said, in the Noble Quraan:
O people of the Book! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not say anything about Allah except the truth.
And our Messenger sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam said, "Beware of (ghuluww) exceeding the limits in the Religion. Because those who came before you were destroyed by their exceeding the limits in their Religion."
So when Allah¹s Messenger, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, has made it clear to us that there is in the matter of a persons taking suhoor, latitude and a margin of ease, to the extent that he said, "If one of you hears the call to Prayer whilst the vessel is in his hand, then let him not put it down until he has completed his need from it."
So it is opposition to Allah and to the Messenger that a person says that one who hears the adhaan whilst he has food in his mouth must spit it out upon the ground. This is not from the Sunnah. Rather this is contrary to the Sunnah, and is contrary to the clear command of the Messenger, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam. And I have been asked many times, so I will not leave the need for such a question, but rather I will precede you in it, by stating that this hadeeth is to be found in some of the most famous books of the Sunnah. From them being the Sunan of Aboo Daawood, and it is the third book from the well-known six books. The first of which is Saheehul-Bukhaaree, the second being Saheeh Muslim, and the third being the Sunan of Aboo Daawood.
This hadeeth is to be found in it, and it is likewise reported by Aboo Abdullaah al-Haakim in his Mustadrak, and it is likewise reported by the Imaam, the Imaam of the Sunnah Ahmad ibn Hanbal, rahimahullaah, in his tremendous book known as the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad. So the hadeth is not a strange hadeeth, rather it is a well-known hadeeth, and was reported by the Imaams of the sunnah in the early times, and with an authentic chain of narration.
So here I say, to conclude this talk, since perhaps some of you have questions, which we will answer if Allah wills, so I conclude it with his, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, saying "Allah loves that His allowances be acted upon just as He loves that His prescribed duties be carried out," and in one narration, "Just as He hates that disobedience to Him be committed."
So there are two narrations, "Allah loves that His allowances be acted upon just as He loves that His prescribed duties be carried out", and the second narration is, "as He hates that disobedience to Him be committed."
So therefore the Muslim should not practice false piety, and (as a result) refrain from obeying the Prophet, sallAllahu alaihi wa sallam, in that which he encouraged us upon and clarified to us.
And what has been said is sufficient, and all praise is for Allah, the Lord of all of the creation."
 

IHearIslam

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Assalmu Alaikum brother Island Muslim:D

jazakaAllah khairan for the post:D it's really nice reading and benefits alot!:D
subhanaAllah:D how easy is our religion!:D
may Allah always make us those who turn to Him!ameeeen
thanks for sharing again Island Muslim:D
 
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