HIV in muslim Community.

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a_stranger

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:salam2:

Please read this verse with care :

مَن كَانَ يُرِيدُ الْعِزَّةَ فَلِلَّهِ الْعِزَّةُ جَمِيعًا إِلَيْهِ يَصْعَدُ الْكَلِمُ الطَّيِّبُ وَالْعَمَلُ الصَّالِحُ يَرْفَعُهُ وَالَّذِينَ يَمْكُرُونَ السَّيِّئَاتِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَمَكْرُ أُوْلَئِكَ هُوَ يَبُورُ (35:10)

Man kana yureedu alAAizzata falillahi alAAizzatu jameeAAan ilayhi yasAAadu alkalimu alttayyibu waalAAamalu alssalihu yarfaAAuhu waallatheena yamkuroona alssayyiati lahum AAathabun shadeedun wamakru olaika huwa yabooru


35:10 (Asad) He who desires might and glory [ought to know that] all might and glory belong to God [alone]. Unto Him ascend all good words, and the righteous deed does He exalt. But as for those who cunningly devise evil deeds - suffering severe awaits them; and all their devising is bound to come to nought.


If you want respect and dignity start by correcting your relation with the owner of all might and glory : pray with a heart :salah:, repent sincerily .......believe me no body knows who is better .........all of us are sinners to a certain degree ...we are not xure if Allah sobhanahu wa taala accept our prayers oe no but we have a great hope since we know the unlimited mercy and love of our creator ........nothing can stop you from praying and doing good start now ....when you start your way with sincerity you will see the differance in your life, and please pray for us all.
 

Sakeena

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Brave Soldier!!

"AnnaKanadeeyah"

Thank You for your message.

Asalamu alaikum brother,

To be honest, when someone tells me they have HIV....I feel uncomfortable... but really, you're our Muslim brother and despite this disease we are all one nation. I believe we need to open up and have more talks so infected ppl wont feel scorned or outcasted. :girl3: I hope I'm not offending you....I'm so sorry to hear about that.

You simply want to live a normal life like everyone else, correct? Your brave to come out and seek help and we all should support you and not put you down. Your in my duas brother. Always remember, ALLAH (swt) LOVES you and ALLAH's (swt) LOVE is greater than any pain and infections that afflict us. May ALLAH (swt) Protect you and lead you to Jannah-al-Firdaws. Ameen. :ma:
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Thank you A_stranger and Sakeena, I have found quite a support from some people.thank you for your duas.

Sakeena if you feel uncomfortable please get educated on HIV. You seem to be a good muslimah as you mentioned despite the disease we are all one nation and we need to open up and have more talks so that people infected wont feel scorned or outcasted.

Hope you start on your end and not feel uncomfortable with HIV positive people they are as human as you are.
 

kayleigh

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Why would you feel uncomfortable around someone with HIV? I'm sorry, but you obviously don't know very much about it. You're not going to get HIV from coming into normal day to day contact with someone with it.

I don't think it is selfish for someone with HIV to want a family - everyone wants a family, and someone with HIV can just as easily adopt children as well, which is a very honorable thing to do.
 

Sakeena

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Assalaam walaikum,


Now that you have helped us understand what you seek make dua brother. It is the medicine that your soul needs. We are all here. You are not alone in this world. Yes, there are others who have been hurt by the calls of the duyna. It is time to move on. You have to be honest with any prospective spouse. You may get a lot of rejections. However, you may get a yea.
Allah subhana talla grants us forgiveness. And as the brother suggested it is time to become whole again. You have more knowledge of why to walk away from the duyna than most. You are the lucky one. You put on your brakes and came home. Do not dwell on the past. It is over. Now it is time to emulate the characteristics of the Prophet. It is time to walk on the Path. The old life is over. Your soul wanted to be with Believers. Here you are son. Now start the walk, each step in moderation, with your gaze lowered because you know what you have walked away from. Please get rid of anything that you hold on to from the past life and move forward. Go to the masjid and be amongst the men as a man of Allah subhana talla.

Brother, I have to agree with sister Majiramom, I mean when u think about it, you came back. You returned, you did something wrong and unfortunately this happened but you came home. Your in our deen, we all hurt if you hurt. We all share joy and happiness, sadnesss and fears. But stay on the right path. Don't let nobody bring you down!! :ma: Your stronger than most of us!!! May Allah bless you and have Mercy on you ameen!!!

your sister in Islam

-Sakeena :tti_sister:
 

Sakeena

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Thank you A_stranger and Sakeena, I have found quite a support from some people.thank you for your duas.

Sakeena if you feel uncomfortable please get educated on HIV. You seem to be a good muslimah as you mentioned despite the disease we are all one nation and we need to open up and have more talks so that people infected wont feel scorned or outcasted.

Hope you start on your end and not feel uncomfortable with HIV positive people they are as human as you are.

Yes, we are all human. I guess it takes a little time, but inshallah I'm standing up for you because you and so many others deserve to be heard. You have a voice. Stay strong!! So you have HIV. We should hate HIV not ppl who have HIV. :tti_sister: We're all creatures of Allah Almighty. :ma: education is very important. :)
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Some facts and FAQS for people to get soem info on HIV/AIDS

HIV stands for human immunodeficiency virus. HIV destroys certain white blood cells called CD4+ T cells. These cells are critical to the normal function of the human immune system, which defends the body against illness. When HIV weakens the immune system, a person is more susceptible to developing a variety of cancers and becoming infected with viruses, bacteria and parasites.

AIDS stands for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. A person who tests positive for HIV can be diagnosed with AIDS when a laboratory test shows that his or her immune system is severely weakened by the virus or when he or she develops at least one of about 25 different opportunistic infections -- diseases that might not affect a person with a normal immune system but that take advantage of damaged immune systems.

How is HIV detected?

Several different types of laboratory tests can be used to determine whether a person is HIV-positive. It is impossible to look at someone and know whether he or she is HIV-positive. Most tests used to screen for the virus detect HIV antibodies -- proteins the body produces to fight off the infection -- in blood or oral fluid samples.

How does HIV cause AIDS?

HIV destroys CD4+ T cells that are important to the normal function of the human immune system. As the virus destroys these cells, HIV-positive people are susceptible to illnesses that generally do not affect people with healthy immune systems. According to studies including thousands of people, most HIV-positive people are infected with the virus for years before it does enough damage to the immune system to make them susceptible to AIDS-related diseases. Tests are available to measure the amount of HIV in the blood – the viral load – and those with higher viral loads are more likely to develop AIDS-related diseases and to experience a decline in their CD4+ T cells. Reducing the amount of virus in the body with antiretroviral medications can dramatically slow the destruction of a person's immune system and the progression of illness.

How long does it take for HIV to cause AIDS?

The time between HIV infection and progressing to AIDS differs for each person and depends on many factors, including a person's health status and their health-related behaviors. With a healthy lifestyle, the time between HIV infection and developing AIDS-related illnesses can be 10 to 15 years, sometimes longer. Antiretroviral therapy can slow the progression of HIV to AIDS by decreasing the amount of virus in a person's body. There also are other medical treatments that can prevent or cure some of the illnesses associated with AIDS, although the treatments do not cure HIV or AIDS. As with other diseases, early detection of HIV infection allows for more options for treatment and preventive health care.

What are some of the symptoms of HIV infection and AIDS?
Once infected with HIV, a person may or may not experience any symptoms. People who do experience symptoms might have a flu-like illness within one or two months after infection. Symptoms can include fever, headache, tiredness and/or enlarged lymph nodes. These symptoms usually disappear within a week to a month and are often mistaken for the symptoms of more common viral infections, like a cold. More persistent or severe symptoms might not appear for several years after a person is first infected with HIV. This period of "asymptomatic" infection is highly individual. Some people might begin to have symptoms within a few months, while others might be symptom-free for more than 10 years.

As the immune system is weakened by HIV, several complications and symptoms could begin to occur. These symptoms might be made worse if the HIV-positive person is not getting the care and services they need. For many people, the first signs of infection are enlarged lymph nodes or "swollen glands" that may be inflamed for several months. As the immune system is weakened by HIV, several complications and symptoms could begin to occur. These symptoms could be made worse if the HIV-positive person is not getting the care and services they need. For many people, the first signs of infection are enlarged lymph nodes or "swollen glands" that may be inflamed for several months. Other symptoms that HIV-positive people might experience months to years before receiving an AIDS diagnosis include:

•Lack of energy
•Weight loss
•Frequent fevers and sweats (sometimes known as "night sweats")
•Persistent or frequent yeast infections (oral or vaginal)
•Persistent skin rashes or flaky skin
•Pelvic inflammatory disease in women that does not respond to treatment
•Short-term memory loss
•Frequent and severe herpes infections that cause mouth, genital, or anal sores, or a painful nerve disease called shingles.


Both men and women experience many of the same symptoms from HIV infection.
However, women also experience unique complications that are primarily gynecologic. These could include recurrent vaginal yeast infections, severe pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) or human papillomavirus (HPV) infections. Other vaginal infections might occur more frequently and with greater severity in HIV-positive women (compared with HIV-negative women), including bacterial vaginosis and common sexually transmitted infections such as gonorrhea, Chlamydia, and trichomoniasis. HIV-positive women also might experience disruptions or other irregularities in their menstrual cycles.

The signs and symptoms of HIV/AIDS are similar to the symptoms of many other illnesses. The only way to determine HIV infection is to be tested.

Is there a cure for HIV/AIDS?

There is no known cure for HIV/AIDS. There are medical treatments that can slow down the rate at which HIV weakens the immune system. There are other treatments that can prevent or cure some of the illnesses associated with AIDS. Researchers are testing a variety of preventive and curative vaccine candidates, but a successful vaccine likely is years away.

How is HIV transmitted?

HIV transmission can occur when blood, semen, pre-seminal fluid, vaginal fluid or breast milk from an HIV-positive person enters the body of an HIV-negative person. HIV can enter the body through a vein, the lining of the anus or rectum, the lining of the vagina and/or cervix, the opening to the penis, the mouth, other mucous membranes -- such as the eyes or inside of the nose -- or cuts and sores. Intact, healthy skin is an excellent barrier against HIV and other viruses and bacteria.

Worldwide, the most common way that HIV is transmitted is through sexual transmission, including anal, vaginal or oral sex with an HIV-positive person. HIV also can be transmitted by sharing needles or injection equipment with an injection drug user who is HIV-positive, or from an HIV-positive woman to her infant before or during birth or through breastfeeding after birth. HIV also can be transmitted through receipt of infected blood or blood clotting factors.

How is HIV not transmitted?

HIV is not easily passed from one person to another. The virus does not survive well outside of the body. HIV cannot be transmitted through casual or everyday contact such as shaking hands or hugging. Sweat, tears, vomit, feces and urine do contain small amounts of HIV, but they have not been reported to transmit the disease. Mosquitoes and other insects do not transmit HIV.

Why are young women at a higher risk of HIV infection than young men?

Many young women lack information about sexual and reproductive health and disease prevention. In countries with generalized epidemics, the majority of women ages 15 to 24 do not have access to information or resources about reproductive health and HIV/AIDS. Young women may also lack access to health care and education. In addition, young women are among the most vulnerable because their genital tracts have less mature tissue, which may be more easily torn, and they are often victims of coercive or forced sex.
 

HIVpozmuslim

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I think lots of Muslims think that you only get HIV/AIDS if you're gay, or doing other bad things like using unclean needles (drugs) or having unprotected sex with multiple partners, etc. and they like to think that Muslims don't do that, which is untrue and unrealistic. In general, the Muslim community likes to pretend that lots of issues or illnesses don't effect Muslims, and it ends up hurting a lot of people. I hope that someday you'll find the right person who is willing to be with you regardless of your health status.
Thanks for your replies and support.
 

ya allah madad

0mm3afnan
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brother may Allah have mercy upon you.
First of all brother,change your user name as it discriminates yourself.
In Islam,when you commit any sin you are not suppose to make it public so loudly that people especially muslims start thinking about it as a normal thing.
for example we are not suppose to pray our qada of salat in mosque because the more the sin is public, the more it is normal.
May Allah give you what you deserve the best.
 

HIVpozmuslim

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:salam2:
brother may Allah have mercy upon you.
First of all brother,change your user name as it discriminates yourself.
In Islam,when you commit any sin you are not suppose to make it public so loudly that people especially muslims start thinking about it as a normal thing.
for example we are not suppose to pray our qada of salat in mosque because the more the sin is public, the more it is normal.
May Allah give you what you deserve the best.
I think you are interpretings things on your own about me committing sins and so are some others.
Well the reason I have this name is to be identified coz, for I think this is one of the way for the muslim world to know that, Muslims are not immune to HIV. Muslim leaders should adress this issue in public congregations, i.e friday prayers.
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Yes, we are all human. I guess it takes a little time, but inshallah I'm standing up for you because you and so many others deserve to be heard. You have a voice. Stay strong!! So you have HIV. We should hate HIV not ppl who have HIV. :tti_sister: We're all creatures of Allah Almighty. :ma: education is very important. :)
Don't Hate a person whose actions are not acceptable or permitted, hate his actions. Coz you dont know what Allah has in mind for this person.
Dont Judge a person for his actions tooo, coz you are not GOD, it is Allah to decide and judge a person on the day of judgement.
 

Sakeena

Junior Member
I have a GREAT IDEA!!

Your absolutely right Brother!! Hey, um, do you have a nickname or something we can call you? Because I'll just give you a nickname of Teđdy Bear lol. Oh man. That's true we're not invincable to anything. We have to bring this to the attention of our Imams and leaders. We can't cover it up. That wont help. SubhanAllah. You say that you've tried to talk to the Islamic leaders about this Teđdy? What a world we live in. We should help one another. We all suffer from some kind of condition or ailment. Hmm... :girl3: nêed to think of a way to let everyone know about this inshallah!

ƠOHHH I HAVE A GREAT IDEA!!!!!

Teđdy, I've bên planning on creating a new documentary series, titled:

MUSLIM IN AMERICA

It's amazing, and I want to cover many topics and issues that affect the American-Muslim community inshallah. These nêd to be discussed as well. What do you think, Teđdy? :hijabi:

may Allah bless you, amên!!!

your sister in Islam,

-Sakêena :ma:
 

Sakeena

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Don't Hate a person whose actions are not acceptable or permitted, hate his actions. Coz you dont know what Allah has in mind for this person.
Dont Judge a person for his actions tooo, coz you are not GOD, it is Allah to decide and judge a person on the day of judgement.

Sorry....I meant that the disease is bad not the person infected...sorry Ted, please forgive me... :( subhanăllah...
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Sorry....I meant that the disease is bad not the person infected...sorry Ted, please forgive me... :( subhanăllah...
Ted I prefer my muslim name ... I am proud of my name as I was named after one of the Caliphas by my parents. Am not reqady yet to come out with my name in public but when I am ready, I will. Inshallah soon.
Documentry sounds great!!!! Wish you good luck in your endeavour..
There is a group in south africa that is educating and has work shops for leader in muslim community.
http://www.safaids.net/?q=node/1175
http://www.positivemuslims.org.za
 

Aisya al-Humaira

الحمدلله على كل حال
Assalamualaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh akhi,

If I may add. Take whatever that has happened as something that Allah has fated for you whether it is good or not. There may be a "secret" of what had happened that only Allaah knows and we know not.

Like Brother Danyal has said, you might get a lot of negatives impressions from the people around you along the journey. But do forgive them if whatsoever that they say may hurt you. Could be that the person is ignorant of what HIV really is. And as you have mentioned it a few times, what counts most is what Allaah's impression of you.

Im sure, InshaAllaah that all of us including you - is that our main goal in this life is to please Allaah with our best abilities. This might be a trial and a test for you in this temporary world, but remember that in spite of the sufferings that you feel here, it might come to an end someday.

Hold on strongly to His Rope. Remember that Allaah is always there at times when you feel low or maybe sad of what has happened. Allaah The All-Knower knows every single of your pain. Let out your feelings to Him and inshaAllaah you'll feel much better afterwards.

If you find that some of our words here might hurt your feeling, forgive us first and foremost.

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allaah (i.e the Quran), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allaah's favour on you, for you were enemies one to another, but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islamic faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allaah makes His Ayat clear to you, that you may be guided." Al-Imran, 3: 103

Waalaykummusalam wa rahmatullah.
 

Sakeena

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Ted I prefer my muslim name ... I am proud of my name as I was named after one of the Caliphas by my parents. Am not reqady yet to come out with my name in public but when I am ready, I will. Inshallah soon.
Documentry sounds great!!!! Wish you good luck in your endeavour..
There is a group in south africa that is educating and has work shops for leader in muslim community.
http://www.safaids.net/?q=node/1175
http://www.positivemuslims.org.za

Coơl don't worry, we'll call you Ted for right now if that's okay lol. Hmmm...yes this is what we nêd to discuss. Cơol thanks for the links. Alhamdulilah. :SMILY206: by the way, welcome to TTI!!! A great place to learn and socialize tơo! :ma: Ugh, man I should have gone to lunch, now I fêel a little hungry... aughh!! :SMILY335: oh well. Hey, so I guess you don't fast during the month of Ramadan or no? If so, it's very hard?
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Assalamualaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh akhi,

If I may add. Take whatever that has happened as something that Allah has fated for you whether it is good or not. There may be a "secret" of what had happened that only Allaah knows and we know not.

Like Brother Danyal has said, you might get a lot of negatives impressions from the people around you along the journey. But do forgive them if whatsoever that they say may hurt you. Could be that the person is ignorant of what HIV really is. And as you have mentioned it a few times, what counts most is what Allaah's impression of you.

Im sure, InshaAllaah that all of us including you - is that our main goal in this life is to please Allaah with our best abilities. This might be a trial and a test for you in this temporary world, but remember that in spite of the sufferings that you feel here, it might come to an end someday.

Hold on strongly to His Rope. Remember that Allaah is always there at times when you feel low or maybe sad of what has happened. Allaah The All-Knower knows every single of your pain. Let out your feelings to Him and inshaAllaah you'll feel much better afterwards.

If you find that some of our words here might hurt your feeling, forgive us first and foremost.

"And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allaah (i.e the Quran), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allaah's favour on you, for you were enemies one to another, but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islamic faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allaah makes His Ayat clear to you, that you may be guided." Al-Imran, 3: 103

Waalaykummusalam wa rahmatullah.
Thank you asiya humaira... as I have mentioned that there has been a lot of good response and then there have been some that have been saying mean things its ok.. I know they are ignorant and dont have any knowledge of HIV. It hurts but I dont have anything against them and they are forgiven.
 

Sakeena

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You dont have to ask for forgiveness.... Its ok .... You have been more respectfull than some of the others...

Well, I was always taught to treat ppl with respect. I mean you deserve it. We all do. You came to us for assistance and advice, so it's up to us as you brothers and sisters in Islam to help you. It's our duty to support one another despite the difficulties. This has happened to you, yet through it all your strong and it even shames me, a convert. Allah truly loves you. your in my duas Ted. :tti_sister: amên!

-Sakeena :hijabi:
 

HIVpozmuslim

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Coơl don't worry, we'll call you Ted for right now if that's okay lol. Hmmm...yes this is what we nêd to discuss. Cơol thanks for the links. Alhamdulilah. :SMILY206: by the way, welcome to TTI!!! A great place to learn and socialize tơo! :ma: Ugh, man I should have gone to lunch, now I fêel a little hungry... aughh!! :SMILY335: oh well. Hey, so I guess you don't fast during the month of Ramadan or no? If so, it's very hard?
I am sorry I dont mean to teach coz I am no scholar. But as of what i know I will share. Fasting is something a person does for Allah. only Allah truly knows if the person is fasting or not. There might be people that like to fast but cannot fast. They might find it difficult to answer this question, coz of the fear what people will think of them. They feel uncomfortable and it may also make them feel they are less worthy.
For the longest time I never ask a person if they are fasting or not. Not my buisiness. between the person and Allah. Food for thought!!!! Ponder over this
I hope I havent come across rude...
 
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