why some iranians...

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
please dont think that brother,,,its your place here too and ur very welcome,,,,dont feel like that
dont leave.....everyone just needs to be more understanding

and we all forget sometimes that this is very imoportant part of Islam...al are equal,,,and no you dont need to change your dress or looks only your actions and manners to be a good muslim

:salam2:

Eh, well, I went home last night and played some video games last night and calmed down a bit. I probably overreacted a bit and that's my fault.

I seem to be too sensitive about stuff lately. I'm not even sure why...
 

esperanza

revert of many years
dont worry were all sensitive in some way....jsut do your best..your still at the beginning don t expect everything to change at once,,,,
 

sachin4islam

Junior Member
Assalamu Alaikum:

I have been to some websites to those of expiate Iranians. They are lured by western life and life style. They feel like Islam is a prison for them. In short they very easily surrender to their lusts,desires and expectations.

To add,more than 50% of Syrians are non-residents and living in west. :) :) :)

Regards.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
Assalamu Alaikum:

I have been to some websites to those of expiate Iranians. They are lured by western life and life style. They feel like Islam is a prison for them. In short they very easily surrender to their lusts,desires and expectations.

To add,more than 50% of Syrians are non-residents and living in west. :) :) :)

Regards.

waht do you mean by 50% of syrians
 

msmoorad

mommys boy
salaams to all

i dont think we should be counting Iranians amongst the muslims as the vast majority of those living in the west are shiahs.
from what i know, the ulama of Ahle sunnah wal Jammah(the ulama from the majority of the muslims) have passed the fatwa that we should not call shiahs muslims.
its like saying a christian muslim- can that be possible?

and,

many muslims who have come to the west from majority muslim countries were apparently not practicing "back home" anyways.
you get a handful who assume that they can do as they please since they are not in an "islamic" country anymore.
this is common amongst those coming from upper-middle class families.
the lower income groups are generally more deendaar(pious)

i dont know about you people but from the more than a year ive spent visiting more than 13 states in the US- this is what ive seen.

the Indo-Pak muslims at least dont justify their wrongs- they acknowledge it but dont stop their evil habits.

when it comes to the arabs- they have a superiority complex & dont accept advice from others-even other arabs.
unless its some big arab sheikh thats famous.
they seem to think that since they are arab & speak arabic- whatever they do is correct & non arabs dont have the right to correct/advise them.

not all the Indo-Pak people & not all arabs are like this- there are exceptions.

when it comes to african muslims- they have their own weird traditions & customs & like to act as if they dont understand that what they are doing is against shariah.
they also seem to think that when it comes to deen, the arabs know everything & are correct always.
many Somalis seem to think they are superior to other Africans cos they speak arabic & have some arab & indian blood in them.

these are my observations- i stand by my words.
you lot may have experienced something other than this.

again, im not saying all the above mentioned peoples are like this- there are exceptions.


and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah
 

Killi_Feyzo

Junior Member
I dient Read the thread but in my Eyes it can Even Be better for deen and dunya if the People there leave Iran
The Muslims there have a Lot of Problems to practise their Religion
I dont Know how exactly though it is there but it might Be thougher than in kuffar countries, because of these "Ayatollah" munafiqs
alot of ahlu sunnah scholars declared their scholars As kafirs
 

zinirah

Junior Member
I know a lot of people from other countries who wanted badly to come to USA...for whatever reason that may be. Maybe they think they will benefit from this country. I understand if they want to study in the University here, but just to simply live here...There is nothing special about living in these countries unless they have some sort of obsession with western society, because they think it will be easy to get money or whatever...Lol...a lot of Americans laugh at this, because a lot of Americans are loosing their jobs, and on top of it we have a bunch of foreign people coming to get work here. There is one woman I know who moved here, and after she lived here for 3 years, she wished her and her husband would have never moved here...lol...but for everyone its a different story. Maybe some people that come here get better opportunities then they did in their own country...who knows.
 

msmoorad

mommys boy
I know a lot of people from other countries who wanted badly to come to USA...for whatever reason that may be. Maybe they think they will benefit from this country. I understand if they want to study in the University here, but just to simply live here...There is nothing special about living in these countries unless they have some sort of obsession with western society, because they think it will be easy to get money or whatever...Lol...a lot of Americans laugh at this, because a lot of Americans are loosing their jobs, and on top of it we have a bunch of foreign people coming to get work here. There is one woman I know who moved here, and after she lived here for 3 years, she wished her and her husband would have never moved here...lol...but for everyone its a different story. Maybe some people that come here get better opportunities then they did in their own country...who knows.


salaams to all

its just for money-thats the reason most people come to the US.

the US Dollar is a strong currency.
1US$= 73 Bangladeshi takas
1US$= 45 Indian Rupees
1US$= 85 Pakistani Rupees

just a few examples to show how much stronger the US$ is compared to the currency of the poorer countries. (of course, anyone with half a brain knows the US$ is actually now useless- its value has been artificially inflated.)

this is why they want to come here.
they live simply while they are in the US & save their $$$ to send home via Western Union or Moneygram. they want to build a big mansion back home & get all their brothers & sisters married.
Weddings are expensive for them due to all the stupid cultural & traditional practices they have.
others who are able to get permanent residence/Green card or citizenship save to open a business & then bring their family members over one after another.

its all about money.

they dont care so much about the "better life" or higher standard of living.
thats just cosmetic.

if tomorrow the US$ fell in value(& it will soon) & was equal to the Pakistani or Indian rupee- youd see all of them going back home-theres no reason to stay anymore.

those who have permanent residence will remain but would be looking out for which other country they can send their sons to, where the currency is stronger.

its just that they are VERY MATERIALISTIC.

if you look closely- youd see that none of them were starving back home. actually, they come from quite wealthy families.
when questioned by immigration, they lie about the suffering etc they are undergoing back home but amonst their friends- you hear the true story of where they come from etc.


and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah
 

yasak80

Junior Member
I only mentioned they are so willing to immigrate rather than other people,
but they should hate. it was my opinion.

But in the replies I saw people are hurting shia people . I didnt mean it.
pls sisters and brothers of course we can say they are wrong or right ,
but pls dont say anybody qafir , Allah knows the best.
:(
 

msmoorad

mommys boy
I only mentioned they are so willing to immigrate rather than other people,
but they should hate. it was my opinion.

But in the replies I saw people are hurting shia people . I didnt mean it.
pls sisters and brothers of course we can say they are wrong or right ,
but pls dont say anybody qafir , Allah knows the best.
:(


salaams to all

respected sister.

please understand that shiahs are NOT muslims.
we dont set the requirements-
there are ayat of the Quran & hadith of Rasullullah(SAW) that provide the basis of the fatwa by ulama that we cannot regard shiahs as muslims..

are you shiah?

why do you people have enmity/hatred for most of the sahaba of Rasullullah(SAW)?
you dont want us to say anything against people who revile the beloved companions of Rasullullah(SAW)?-what kind of of muslims would we be then?

and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah
 

yasak80

Junior Member
salam brother ,

I understand you.

I am not shiah.
In ahli sunnah teaching, never tell someone as qafir unless he says I dont beleive in god and also prophet Mohammad. Because it is too dangerous... you know what I mean ...
I am very dissapointed.

Judge is not slave's business. We can only warn people by giving proofs.


Excuse me, if I hurt you and the other muslims brothers and sister.
this is ramadhan, we should understand each other.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
dear brother..is it possible to write your posts in english or even in french would be easier,,,,shukran,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

msmoorad

mommys boy
:salam2:

Humans they are. In the front of same Allah than we all.

Who is the most mercifull to all of us.

He judge.

salaams to all
why dont you call the christians & jews muslims as well?
we know shiahs are humans- nobody is denying that
but you cant say they are muslims since their fundamental beliefs are different from what a muslims ought to be.

they lie sometimes & say they beleive the same as us but its Taqiyyah- a shiah concept where they believe they get lots of reward for deceiving others regarding their true religious beliefs.

they have hatred & animosity towards most of the Sahaba (companions) of Rasullullah (SAW)

its nice to love everyone & be at peace with everyone but you cant say people with those beliefs are muslims.

and Allah ta'ala knows best
jazakallah
 
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