Freedom of Religion?
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Ershad
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Islam came into being to remove the false practices and falsehood. So, it doesn't make sense if people say Islam allows those false practices to exist.
If America had such a law, then it would be an obligation upon the muslims to perform hijrah.
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I don't think you have understood the thread
So define 'freedom of religion'. You say imagine if America had a law saying everyone must be a Christian. But who said everyone must be a Muslim? ... Be Christian, Jew or whatever, yes... but leave Islam then no.
Hajjerr
He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
wa aleikum salam wa rahmatulahy wa barakatuh,
No, i dont belive in freedom of religions, i dont belive in shaking hands between religions and respecting humans right to choose religion by wrong motives.
I cant pretend is ok that someone thinks in many saints like i dont belive someone may belive that worshiping a stone is corect and so on......
This only leeds to bad things, i am revert so i lived it, i know that without limits, the humans can cross any boundry. I belive in islam, we need islam to be followed in the right way, inchallah.
May Allah guide us :tti_sister:
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No, i dont belive in freedom of religions, i dont belive in shaking hands between religions and respecting humans right to choose religion by wrong motives.
I cant pretend is ok that someone thinks in many saints like i dont belive someone may belive that worshiping a stone is corect and so on......
This only leeds to bad things, i am revert so i lived it, i know that without limits, the humans can cross any boundry. I belive in islam, we need islam to be followed in the right way, inchallah.
May Allah guide us :tti_sister:
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a_stranger
Junior Member
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I think every human has the right to hear the call of truth, to do so their must be some force to guard the truth. No one can force nonmuslems to be muslems , islam is faith and conviction of hearts. But nowadays their are many obstacles to prevent truth to reach human minds . A few people who contol the media are directing masses of people in the way they like.......it is a shame on human mind to be dragged by material desires and whims ignoring the spiritual needs within.
I think every human has the right to hear the call of truth, to do so their must be some force to guard the truth. No one can force nonmuslems to be muslems , islam is faith and conviction of hearts. But nowadays their are many obstacles to prevent truth to reach human minds . A few people who contol the media are directing masses of people in the way they like.......it is a shame on human mind to be dragged by material desires and whims ignoring the spiritual needs within.
saifkhan
abd-Allah
as salam 'alaykum warahamtu-llah
BarakAllahu feekum ya ukht
the issue is understanding in the tawheed, thats why Allah subhanahu wa ta'la said, He will forgive any sins, if He wishes, or even passing a certain time in Hell and then will be rewarded Jannah, except associating partner with Him.
Shirk is the Biggest Sin, only this which Allah will not tolerate, but of course Allah is As-sabur, the most Patient One.
hamdu li Allah you understood it well, masha Allah.
one of my closest brother is from where i live now, he is also revert,I asked him and he replied so beautifully masha Allah, he replied, would not you be going to save someone who is blind and going to get into a busy road to cross the road(and he placed some other similitude) then if I can see someone definitely going to Hellfire forever, for eternity, why we don't tend to save him.but what can we do, even now, if I go to someone, he will reply, mind your own business.
indeed Islam came to diminish the false practice and false ideology, it is our fault that we failed to maintain ours. however, he also replied, but for an atheist he can leave this matter, may be he will not even look what is going on there.
like the bitter cough syrup, the child will never get it, no matter how you make him understand that this is good for him, he seems it is not
however, of course hidayah is on the hands of Allah azza wa jal
but if people surrounding us, even family members, if we dont give them dawah, if we cant be a good example for them that Yes, actually we are in right way, then it is our failure. and if we fell that it is not our responsibilty and if making dawah is interfering someones personal matter, then we are the biggest looser.
it is the portray of the media, that made the religion as personal, because the media is ran by shaytan, and they know, dawah can make the change, so they quote from our kitab, Kalamullah , the Quran and making us stop.
and people fall into traps
may Allah help us to understand His religion, so that we can benefit ourselves in this Dunya and the Akhirah
JazakAllah khair
wassalam
Hatty
Junior Member
What I understood from the video is that Freedom of Religion is not something instructed by Allah. Allah did not send the messengers to tell people you have freedom of religion, chose anyone you like and you will go to heaven. According to Allah there is only one religion.
However, at the same time, this message must be embraced willingly without any compulsion. If someone rejects to embrace Allah's message and religion is their own business but the other way of life chosen by this person is not accepted by Allah.
Here in UK we do not have the English law and the Chinese law being implemented in this country at the same. That would be chaos and we would say this country is a mess. You can not go to court and demand that you want to be judged in accordance with the Chinese law in the UK. It is the same with the earth which Allah has created. He also revealed a law for the people He created to follow this law and this way of life.
Allah knows best....
However, at the same time, this message must be embraced willingly without any compulsion. If someone rejects to embrace Allah's message and religion is their own business but the other way of life chosen by this person is not accepted by Allah.
Here in UK we do not have the English law and the Chinese law being implemented in this country at the same. That would be chaos and we would say this country is a mess. You can not go to court and demand that you want to be judged in accordance with the Chinese law in the UK. It is the same with the earth which Allah has created. He also revealed a law for the people He created to follow this law and this way of life.
Allah knows best....
saifkhan
abd-Allah
wa 'alaykum salam warahmatu-llah
barakAllahu feekum for clarifying.
accroding to Dhimmi contract, the Shariah in the time of the second Caliph of Islam, the second best human being lived in the face of the Earth after Rasul Allah salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam, Umar radhi Allahu anhu, non muslims can have their own court and law for their trails and hearings. this is how Islam allows the religious freedom.
but at the time of Rasul Allah salla Allahu 'alayhi wa sallam and the sahaba radhi Allahu anhum wa ajma'een, people used to come to them and would ask, how can we become like you, how can we be honored like you.
it is our fault that we couldn't be such example for the kuffar, rather our people following them.
Allahu 'alam
wassalam
Hatty
Junior Member
the video was not meant to convey this message sister....I am sure in America, I am not allowed to be tried in accordance with the French law? do you have an option in the state to follow any law - be it transportation law, or property law? Whereas Allah is not forcing His religion and law upon people. He gives them few years to live and decide what way of life to chose before they die - and Allah says in the Quran that this should be done without any compulsion and it should be embraced willingly. Then He brings them to account...
Assalaam walaikum,
There is no compulsion in religion. Once we submit, it is not partial. It is not that we take this and omit that.
What it is saying is Muslims must first build trust and faith amongst ourselves. We need to stop and think. What does submission to the Word of Allah really break down into.
How does following the Sunna give us strenght. What are the components of faith that make us stick like white on rice to Islam.
How important is Sharia to us.
We have been given knowledge..now what are we going to do with it.
There is no compulsion in religion. Once we submit, it is not partial. It is not that we take this and omit that.
What it is saying is Muslims must first build trust and faith amongst ourselves. We need to stop and think. What does submission to the Word of Allah really break down into.
How does following the Sunna give us strenght. What are the components of faith that make us stick like white on rice to Islam.
How important is Sharia to us.
We have been given knowledge..now what are we going to do with it.