Lower garments above ankles

-Marwan-

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18. Men should wear their lower garments above the ankles (Tirmidhi)
19. Those who wear their lower garments below their ankles will on the day of judgement
have fire on their ankles and will not be looked upon with mercy by Allah (Mishkaat)

Can anyone explain why the people who have their lower garments below their ankles will have fire on the day of judgement?

:wasalam:
 

Precious Star

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AT the time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), it was common practice amongst the (male) non-muslim nobility to wear their garments to their feet. As Islam was envisioned to be the great equalizer and has no such hierarchy, the Prophet PBUH wanted the muslims to distinguish themselves from the non-muslim nonbelievers.

Obvioiusly, this distinction does not apply anymore as in modern times it is not just the "upper classes" who wear their trousers to their feet.
 

Musalmaan

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AT the time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), it was common practice amongst the (male) non-muslim nobility to wear their garments to their feet. As Islam was envisioned to be the great equalizer and has no such hierarchy, the Prophet PBUH wanted the muslims to distinguish themselves from the non-muslim nonbelievers.

Obvioiusly, this distinction does not apply anymore as in modern times it is not just the "upper classes" who wear their trousers to their feet.

Cannot confirm what you've said regarding how the nobility of the Prophets SAW time used to wear their garments. I know this much though that the prohibition of wearing your lower garment below the ankle for men still exists and cannot be ignored just because of the times we live in.
 

Precious Star

Junior Member
Cannot confirm what you've said regarding how the nobility of the Prophets SAW time used to wear their garments. I know this much though that the prohibition of wearing your lower garment below the ankle for men still exists and cannot be ignored just because of the times we live in.

What was the rationale behind it, then? Every Islamic rule that is of a practical nature has a logic behind it; what is the logic behind the "above the ankles" rule? I am not arguing with you; I am truly interested.
 

Um Ibrahim

Alhamdulilah :)
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18. Men should wear their lower garments above the ankles (Tirmidhi)
19. Those who wear their lower garments below their ankles will on the day of judgement
have fire on their ankles and will not be looked upon with mercy by Allah (Mishkaat)

Can anyone explain why the people who have their lower garments below their ankles will have fire on the day of judgement?

:wasalam:

:salam2:

Because the Prophet said so...isn't that enough reason? Some things should just be left at that.
 

muslimshabs

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AT the time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH), it was common practice amongst the (male) non-muslim nobility to wear their garments to their feet. As Islam was envisioned to be the great equalizer and has no such hierarchy, the Prophet PBUH wanted the muslims to distinguish themselves from the non-muslim nonbelievers.

Obvioiusly, this distinction does not apply anymore as in modern times it is not just the "upper classes" who wear their trousers to their feet.

Asalamu alaikum...

please have a look at this... it should be very beneficial inshallah...:)

The Issue of Isbaal According to the Qur'an & Sunnah by Dr Saleh-as-Saleh
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
What was the rationale behind it, then? Every Islamic rule that is of a practical nature has a logic behind it; what is the logic behind the "above the ankles" rule? I am not arguing with you; I am truly interested.

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Dear sister, Allah SWT has given the rule, why do we need to look for the logic behind it? As muslims, we hear and we obey, right?

I once heard a lecture from Brother Abu Musab where he says that when he was young his mother used to dress him like that where his garment was above his ankle, and he would not feel in the least bit proud or arrogant. But if he wore his clothes below the ankle, sweeping to the feet, a feeling of pride would enter his heart.

But sister, even when we can't fathom the reasoning behind a ruling, we still do it regardless, but true faith is when you follow something because you believe Allah SWT can never be wrong.
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
Assalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

Whenever we get sick, we go to doctors. However, when we have a matter related to Deen, we just do what our LOGIC says.

Can anybody tell me why do we have to renew Wudoo (Ablution) after answering the call of nature? Why not just wash the part which got dirty? Or if someone may say its to get more clean, why don't Islam tell to have a full bath after that? ANY LOGIC from our weak minds?

Wassalam 'ALaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
 

Precious Star

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Dear sister, Allah SWT has given the rule, why do we need to look for the logic behind it? As muslims, we hear and we obey, right?

I once heard a lecture from Brother Abu Musab where he says that when he was young his mother used to dress him like that where his garment was above his ankle, and he would not feel in the least bit proud or arrogant. But if he wore his clothes below the ankle, sweeping to the feet, a feeling of pride would enter his heart.

But sister, even when we can't fathom the reasoning behind a ruling, we still do it regardless, but true faith is when you follow something because you believe Allah SWT can never be wrong.

The issue is not do we NEED to look for the logic.

As i indicated quite clearly in my comment, I am interested in the logic behind it.

Do you understand the difference?

And, logic also promotes understanding and enhances the desire to follow the particular rule. It is NOT up to you or I or IbnAdam77 or anyone else on this forum to be making assertions about who has true faith and who doesn't -- which is what I find members on this forum do quite unabashadly Astaghfirrullah. We all know that men disregard this rule. If understanding the reasoning behind it will promote adherence, then where is the harm? Will it cause fitnah throughout the ummah?
 

Precious Star

Junior Member
Assalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

Whenever we get sick, we go to doctors. However, when we have a matter related to Deen, we just do what our LOGIC says.

Can anybody tell me why do we have to renew Wudoo (Ablution) after answering the call of nature? Why not just wash the part which got dirty? Or if someone may say its to get more clean, why don't Islam tell to have a full bath after that? ANY LOGIC from our weak minds?

Wassalam 'ALaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

Dear IbnAdam77,

This thread is not about the call of nature and understanding such matters. Your email was sarcastic and, in my view, the comparison you drew to toilet matters was incredibly immature.

See my response to TAbassum above. I understand that English might not be your first language, so perhaps my response to her has made things a bit clearer to you.

I disagree with you that "we just do what our LOGIC says". If that is what you do, that's fine, but don't ascribe that comment to every single muslim walking on this earth.

Please, mere mortals, let Allah SWT be the judge. Not you. On the day of judgment, your opinion as to why someone does or doesn't do wuduu after the call of nature is not going to matter. What matters will be Allah's opinion.

Anyway, I'm not a man so at the end of the day the subject of this thread is useless to me!
 

Tabassum07

Smile for Allah
The issue is not do we NEED to look for the logic.

As i indicated quite clearly in my comment, I am interested in the logic behind it.

Do you understand the difference?

And, logic also promotes understanding and enhances the desire to follow the particular rule. It is NOT up to you or I or IbnAdam77 or anyone else on this forum to be making assertions about who has true faith and who doesn't -- which is what I find members on this forum do quite unabashadly Astaghfirrullah. We all know that men disregard this rule. If understanding the reasoning behind it will promote adherence, then where is the harm? Will it cause fitnah throughout the ummah?

Sorry sis, I didn't mean to rile you up. I also tried to give you the logic as best I know and have heard. But please understand that I wasn't bashing you or pointing fingers at you specifically. My statement was general.
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
Assalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

1) The above response of me to this thread was not dedicated to any special person or group, but it was general.

2) If any brother or sister is offended by it, please forgive me because it is not my intention at all.

3) My mother tongue is not english, so for sure my english does have limitations.

4) Dear sister Precious Star! I never mentioned your name above, however you have replied to my thread in an angry tone, naming me. I in no way will ever say I am the Judge, for indeed I can never be.

5) If my post contains any unacceptable words, please notify it to a moderator and it will be edited or deleted inshaAllah. I ask a moderator to do it.

6) Islam is the Deen of Fact and LOGIC. However, it does not give permission to us to give Fatwa on our own opinion. The Fact and LOGIC in Islam always comes with Daleel from Quran and Sunnah.

7) My dear sister Precious Star has said, "Obvioiusly, this distinction does not apply anymore as in modern times it is not just the "upper classes" who wear their trousers to their feet." I kindly ask to provide appropriate Daleel for that, and scholarly opinion.

8) I have seen the same topic has been discussed here often, and almost always there has been posts about "LOGIC" of Isbal. My previous post was made just for that, because I have heard from scholars that refutation and nobody could carryon anymore. (In the meantime I strongly accept my english limitations, and that my explanation or questions might have some difficulties. It was written to the best of my ability.

Please forgive me.

Wassalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
 

Musalmaan

Junior Member
What was the rationale behind it, then? Every Islamic rule that is of a practical nature has a logic behind it; what is the logic behind the "above the ankles" rule? I am not arguing with you; I am truly interested.

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I will try and answer with what littel knowledge I have acquired.

Not everything in Islam has a logical reason to it. Yes, Islam is a very logical and reasonable religion. But there are somethings which Allah and his Prophet SAW have commanded us to do and we do. We have faith in what has been prescribed to us and we try to to follow these instructions.

For example, why do we pray 5 times a day and not 6 or 7? I personally don't see any apparent logic or reason behind praying 5 and not 6, 7 or 8 obligatory prayers. But I know that Allah has commanded us to pray 5 times a day and Allah willing I do so.

I think its good to ask questions so I'm not criticising you for asking. Islam encourages us to do so. But in this case I would quote the Noble Quran, Surah Al-Ahzab Verse 36:

''It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error.''

:wasalam:
 

MohammedMaksudul

May Allah Forgive us
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Exactly, this is what I find. Today we have to go on and on explaining the logic behind every single thing Islam has asked us to do. Rather than thinking that this is from Allah, the Almighty and we follow no questions asked. Today we see so many documentaries, lectures being made to explain the importance of hijab (its benefits). However, do we find any such thing at the time of the Prophet :saw:. I mean to say that we do not see that it was the way of the Salafs to do dawah in this method (trying to explain the materialistic benefit of each everything in Islam to others). Rather the first thing they would go and talk to people about would be Tawheed. They would call people to the worship of only one Ilah and the rejection of all other false deities (idols, human beings, etc). Because if one is certain about the existence and the worship of the one true Lord, then everything else becomes easier to accept.

Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala says in the Quran (interpretation of the meaning of which is):

"The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination." [2:285]

Here is a beautiful response to a similar question:

Is it really prohibited for a man to wear clothes that hang below his ankles? Does this apply to pants as well? I heard a hadîth where Abû Bakr wore his clothes below his ankles and the Prophet (peace be upon him) excused him because he did not do so out of pride. Does this hadîth show that it is not the length of the clothes themselves that matters but the intention of the wearer?

Answered by
Sheikh `Abd al-Rahmân al-`Ajlân, lecturer at the Grand Mosque in Mecca

It is not permissible for a man to allow his clothing to fall below his ankles. It does not matter what kind of clothing it is. The evidence prohibiting allowing clothes to hang below the ankles is all quite general, so the prohibition applies to all types of clothing.

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will not look at the one who dragged his garment out of pride.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî and Sahih Muslim]

He also said: “What is below the ankles is in the fire.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî]

“Whatever falls below ankles is in Hell” [Sunan al-Bayhaqî]

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “There are three whom Allah, will not look nor purify, and they shall have a grievous chastisement”

The Companions asked: “Who are they, O Messenger of Allah? May they lose and be dishonored.”

He said: “The one who reminds others of his generosity, the one who wears clothes below his ankles, and the one who sells his wares with false oaths.” [Sunan al-Tirmidhî]

This is not a matter of custom. It is a matter of worship and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him). It is obligatory upon us as Muslims to obey him in his commands and prohibitions, even if we cannot understand the reason why certain things are commanded or prohibited.

However, one reason for the prohibition of dragging clothes below the ankles is because it can lead to ostentation and pride.

To further elaborate on your question, we need to keep in mind that there is a difference between the reason we do these things and the wisdom behind why we have do them. This is an important concept that must be properly understood. There is only one reason why we do all of the things we are commanded to do and abstain from all of the things we are prohibited from – that reason is because Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) say so. Allah says: “Obey Allah and obey the Messenger.”

There are various aspects to the wisdom why these things are incumbent upon us. Sometimes we have knowledge of a few aspects of this wisdom and sometimes we do not. In either case, we still have to obey.

For instance, one aspect of the wisdom for growing the beard was mentioned by the Prophet (peace be upon him) and that is to be different than the unbelievers. However, even in places where unbelievers grow beards, Muslims still have to grow them, because the reason for growing a beard remains. The reason is that the Prophet (peace be upon him) commanded us to do so. Another aspect of the wisdom for allowing the beard to grow is so men can show their manhood and be different from women. Islamic Law also commands this of us.

Likewise, there are many aspects to the wisdom of women wearing proper hijâb. It is a sign of respect for women. It is a statement that women are not to be viewed as sex objects. It promotes moral decency and discourages extramarital sex. However, none of these are the reason women have to wear hijâb. Women have to wear hijâb because Allah orders them to do so in the Qur’ân.

As for the hadîth about Abû Bakr mentioned by the questioner, it does not indicate the permissibility of wearing clothes below the ankles for a person who does so without pride. The hadîth is as follows:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever allows his lower garment to drag out of pride, Allah will not look at Him on the Day of Judgment.”

Because of this, Abû Bakr said: “O Messenger of Allah. My waistcloth keeps sliding down, though I take care to wrap it properly.”

Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “You are not one of those who do so out of pride.” [Sahîh al-Bukhârî]

Abû Bakr did not wear his clothes below the ankles. His waistcloth would slip unintentionally until its lower end would fall below his ankles from no fault of his own. Furthermore, he would not leave it dragging in that manner. However, on account of his acute fear of Allah, he expressed his concern to the Prophet (peace be upon him). Therefore, the Prophet (peace be upon him) reassured him that there was no sin upon him for that.

And Allah knows best.

http://en.islamtoday.net/quesshow-26-1120.htm
 

ximkoyra

Junior Member
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18. Men should wear their lower garments above the ankles (Tirmidhi)
19. Those who wear their lower garments below their ankles will on the day of judgement
have fire on their ankles and will not be looked upon with mercy by Allah (Mishkaat)

Can anyone explain why the people who have their lower garments below their ankles will have fire on the day of judgement?

:wasalam:

I have to agree with Precious Star and say it was an arrogant and prideful thing to do. Here's a hadith from Bukhari supporting that view:

Volume 7, Book 72, Number 675:

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

The Prophet said Allah will not look, on the Day of Resurrection at the person who drags his garment (behind him) out of conceit. On that Abu Bakr said, "O Allah's Apostle! One side of my Izar hangs low if I do not take care of it." The Prophet said, 'You are not one of those who do that out of conceit."
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
Assalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

JazakAllahu Khairan dear brother MuhammadMaksudul for the very beneficial post. InshaAllah that will benefit us all.

:)

Wassalam 'Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh
 

Musalmaan

Junior Member
I have to agree with Precious Star and say it was an arrogant and prideful thing to do. Here's a hadith from Bukhari supporting that view:

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A few Fridays ago the Imam at my masjid was talking about this very issue. He quouted a hadith from a Sahabi of the Prophet SAW. Unfortunately I've forgotten the name of the Sahabi, it may well have been Abdullah ibn Umar (RA), but I do remember the Imam saying arrogance or conceit is not mentioned in the hadith.

Either way the point I'm trying to make is that the ruling of wearing your garments above the ankles for men still applies even today. Islam's rulings are for all people and for all time.

I read something interesting on Islam q and a, that those individuals that say they don't feel pride when wearing their lower garment below their ankles can they be completely sure of that? Isn't that pride in itself to say that you're not doing it out of pride?

Also this was the practice of the Prophet SAW. Was he someone who was arrogant or concieted? Of course not and yet he still wore his lower garment above his ankles.

:wasalam:
 

Ayyub

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Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem, wa salaatu wa salaamu ala arasoolullahi wa ala alihe wa sahbihe ajma'een

The Ruling Concerning Al-Isbal in Clothing

The Noble Scholar Muhammad As-Saalih Al-'Uthaymeen said:
If someone lets his Izar (waist wrap) drop lower than his ankles from vanity or haughtiness, then Allaah Almighty will neither look at him on the Day of Judgement, nor speak to him, nor purify him; and for him is a painful punishment. If he does so, but not from haughtiness, then his punishment will be the fire on whatever is below his ankles. This is because the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said,

"There are three people that Allaah will not speak to on the Day of Judgement, will not look at them, will not purify them; and for them is a painful punishment: one who lets his garment hang below his ankles, the Mannan and the Munffiq who does his business with false oaths." (Muslim no. 106)

And because he (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said,

"Whoever drags his garment out of arrogance, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement." (Al-Bukhari no. 5784 and Muslim no. 2085)

These address one who drags his garment out of arrogance. As for the one whose objective is not arrogance, in Sahih Al-Bukhari it is recorded that Abu Hurayrah, may Allaah be pleased with him reported that the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said:

"Whatever is below the ankles is in the fire." (Al-Bukhari no. 5787)

The Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) did not confine this to arrogance, and it is not correct to do so based on Hadeeth before it because Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri, may Allaah be pleased with him, said that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said,

The Izar of the believer is at the middle of his shin, and there is no harm — or he said — no sin upon someone if it is anywhere between that and the ankles. What is lower than that is in the Fire. And whoever drags his Izar arrogantly, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement." (Abu Dawud no. 4093, Ibn Majah no. 3573, An-Nasa'i 5/490, no 9716 and Al-Mawatta' 2/914, 915)


Because the two actions are different, the punishment for each is different. Whenever the ruling and the reason for that differ, it is not possible to restrict a general ruling, this is because that would lead to a contradiction.

As for those who use Abu Bakr's Hadeeth to argue the contrary, we say that there is no proof in that because of two reasons:

1. Abu Bakr, may Allaah be pleased with him, said that one side of his garment would fall down if he didn't constantly hold it up to make sure it didn't. In his case, may Allaah be pleased with him, he did not let his garments fall out of arrogance but it would fall even though he was trying to keep it up. We say to those who let their garment hang low, claiming that they do not intend to do so out of arrogance, but still do so on purpose, that by them letting their garments hang below their ankles on purpose even without arrogance, only what is below their ankles will be punished in the Fire. And if they do so out of arrogance, they will be punished with what is worse than that: Allaah will not speak to them on the day of Resurrection, nor look at them, nor purify them, and they will receive a painful punishment.

2. The Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) attested and witnessed to the fact that Abu Bakr, may Allaah be pleased with him, did not do so from haughtiness. Does any of these people have this commendation or witness? Rather the Shaytan has enticed some people to follow texts that are not so clear to them in the Qur'aan and Sunnah, thus making an excuse for their actions. Allaah guides whomever he pleases to the straight path, so we ask Allaah to guide all of us to it.


Shaykh Muhammad bin Saalih al-`Uthaymeen

Fatawa Islamiyah, Vol. 7, Pages 365-367, DARUSSALAM


The Ruling on Isbal Without Conceit, and if one is Forced to do it

Question:

What is the ruling for letting the garment fall below the ankles out of arrogance or without arrogance? What if one is forced to this by one's family or by custom?

Answer

The ruling is that it is unlawful in the case of a man due to the saying of the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam):

"Whatever is below the ankles of the Izar is in the Fire." (Al-Bukhari no. 5787)

And in his Sahih, Muslim recorded that Abu Tharr, may Allaah be pleased with him, said that Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said:

"There are three people that Allaah will not speak to on the Day of Judgement, will not look at them, will not purify them; and for them is a painful punishment: one who lets his Izar hang below his ankles, the Mannan with what he gives, and the Munffiq who does his business with false oaths." (Muslim no. 106)

These are two Hadeeths, and their meanings are general, applying to one who drags the garment out of arrogance as well as the one who does it without arrogance. This is because the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) stated it in a general manner without qualification. When the Isbal is done with arrogance then it results in a sin greater and a threat more severe, due to his (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) saying:


"Whoever drags his garment out of conceit, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of judgement." (Al-Bukhari no. 5784 and Muslim no. 2085)

It is not possible to think that the prohibition is limited to someone who does it out of arrogance, because the Messenger (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) didn't qualify the prohibition in the previous two Hadeeth.

He (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) also did not restrict that in another Hadeeth, where he (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said to some of his Companions:

"Beware of Isbal, for it is from conceit." (Abu Dawud no. 4084)

So he made all cases of Isbal arrogance, because it is normally not done without that. As for one who does not do it for that reason, then it is a means that leads to that. And a "means" holds the same ruling as an "end."

Furthermore, this is a form of waste, and letting one's garment drag on the ground makes that garment susceptible to impurities on the ground. This is why, when 'Umar, may Allaah be pleased with him, saw a young man letting his garment touch the ground, he said, "Raise your garment, for it is more pious to your Lord and cleaner for your garment."

As for the case when Abu Bakr As-Siddiq, may Allaah be pleased with him, said: "O Messenger of Allaah! "My Izar falls unless I take care (to hold it up)." The Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said to him:

"You are not one of those who do so out of conceit." (Al-Bukhari no. 5784 and Abu Dawud no. 4085)

So his (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) point is that whoever tries to raise his garment when it is loose, then he is not dragging his garment out of arrogance, he merely cannot prevent it. It is just because it is hanging down while he takes care to raise it. So there is no doubt that this is a valid excuse. As for one who purposefully lets it hang, be it a Bushta, pants, Izar, shirt, then this falls under the threat, and he is not excused from dragging his garment. This is because the authentic Hadeeths that prohibit Isbal are general in wording, meaning, and objective. So it is obligatory for every Muslim (male) to beware of Isbal and to have Taqwa of Allaah in this matter, not allowing his garments to hang below his ankles in accordance with the authentic Hadeeths that warn him of Allaah's anger and punishment.

And with Allaah is the facilitation to do what is right.

Shaykh `Abdul-`Azeez Bin Baaz (Rahimahullaah)
Fatawa Islamiyah, Vol. 7, Pages 373-375, DARUSSALAM

Question:

What is the limit for dragging one's garment?

Answer

Dragging one's Izar is unlawful for men, and whoever continues to do so after having been warned should be censured. The place for a believer's garment is the middle of his shin, and any point between that and the ankle is permissible. Whatever goes below the ankles is unlawful, and the one who does so is punished in the Hereafter, and censured in this life. This is because of what was recorded by Al-Bukhari and Muslim, that the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said,

"What is below the ankles from the Izar is in the Fire" (Al-Bukhari no. 5787)

There are other authentic Hadeeths in this regard.

Permanent Committee for Research and Verdicts

Fatawa Islamiyah, Vol. 7, Page 367, DARUSSALAM

Does Isbal Apply to Sleeves?

Question

Is it unlawful for a man to let his garment drag without doing it out of arrogance or pride, and does Isbal apply to the sleeves as well?


Isbal is not allowed for clothing in general, due to the saying of the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam):
"What is below the ankles from the Izar is in the Fire." (Al-Bukhari no. 5787)

And in the Hadeeth of Jabir bin Sulaym, the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said:

"Beware of Isbal, for indeed it is done out of conceit." (Abu Dawud no. 4084)

And in what is recorded by Muslim from the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam), that he said:

"There are three people that Allaah will not speak to on the Day of Judgement, will not look at them, will not purify them; and for them is a painful punishment: one who lets his Izar hang below his ankles, the Mannan with what he gives, and the Munaffiq who does his business with false oaths." (Muslim no. 106)

There is no difference, in this regard, whether one does that out of conceit or not due to the generality of the Hadeeths, and because in most cases Isbal only occurs out of pride and conceit. So even if that is not the objective then doing so leads to pride and arrogance. Additionally it resembles the dress of women, and is harmful to the garment because of the impurities that it may encounter. It involves waste as well.

When one does it out of conceit then his sin is greater due to tin saying of the Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam):

"Whoever drags his garment out of conceit, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Judgement." (Al-Bukhari no. 5784 and Muslim no. 2085)

As for when Abu Bakr As-Siddiq, may Allaah be pleased with him, said: "O Messenger of Allaah! My Izar falls unless I take care (to hold it up)." The Prophet (sallAllaahu `alayhi wa sallam) said to him:

"You are not one of those who do so out of conceit." (Al-Bukhari no. 5784 and Abu Dawud no. 4085)

This is proof for the one whose case is the same as that of As-Siddiq, so there is no harm on him when he tries to keep it up and doesn't let it fall on purpose.

As for the sleeves, the Sunnah is that they should not extend beyond the wrist and with Allaah is the facilitation to do what is right.

Shaykh `Abdul-`Azeez Bin Baaz (Rahimahullaah)

Fatawa Islamiyah, Vol. 7, Pages 377-379, DARUSSALAM

Allaahe Barak Feekum
 

Precious Star

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A few Fridays ago the Imam at my masjid was talking about this very issue. He quouted a hadith from a Sahabi of the Prophet SAW. Unfortunately I've forgotten the name of the Sahabi, it may well have been Abdullah ibn Umar (RA), but I do remember the Imam saying arrogance or conceit is not mentioned in the hadith.

Either way the point I'm trying to make is that the ruling of wearing your garments above the ankles for men still applies even today. Islam's rulings are for all people and for all time.

I read something interesting on Islam q and a, that those individuals that say they don't feel pride when wearing their lower garment below their ankles can they be completely sure of that? Isn't that pride in itself to say that you're not doing it out of pride?

Also this was the practice of the Prophet SAW. Was he someone who was arrogant or concieted? Of course not and yet he still wore his lower garment above his ankles.

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Hmmm. I live in a climate where it is easily -20 degrees for 4 months out of the year. Another 2 months it is still below zero. Snow, ice, sleet....all of that is par for the course in my neck of the woods.

According to this Hadith, a man must wear his trousers above the ankle. I can only imagine what that can lead to in such a climate. Frostbite being one.
 
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