help me plz! things to say to convert a kafir to islam

[WithAllahsPowers]

:shymuslima1::salam2:

what are important things / proofs / facts of islam and attributes of Allah that we can tell to a 'kafir' (non muslim) to make them fear Allah or help them to convert?

the person i am dealing with knows and has witnessed signs from Allah including punishments, but says its not good enough to continue in belief. this being needs something stronger and powerful facts about islam and attributes of Allah.

i have recited allah's 99 names and read the english meanings which subhan allah was so strong for me and very beautiful, but still, this being says they need something stronger. strong powerful facts.

remember, this will help me with my illness.

if everyone wrote a strong sentence or few, this will help and i make dua for allah to increase all our knowledge and for Allah to open up your hearts with faith and allow each person to reply and put strength in their hearts and i further ask Allah to put what im looking for in all your hearts so when i read the message, its from you but Allah helped you to say it or find this fact. amin, inshallah

i know some might think, well if all the signs and punishments and allahs 99 names are not good enough for this kafir, then he doesnt deserve islam and should go to hell fire. i said this too. but if each person could come up with just one positive sentence or few sentences / facts, this will help me with my illness because to be honest, its not all about this kafir being.

if i can proof this kafir is wrong and show facts and evidence, and answer this beings questions, then im looking at a early cure inshallah. the kafir asked me for stronger facts, so i want to do everything i can to bet it and answer the questions the kafir has about islam.

salam to all.

:tti_sister:

 

[Amina 1]

Dear sister You can not make the blind see nor the deaf hear. Sometimes it does not matter what signs or proofs, Allah(SWT) is the only one who can open someone's heart. Pray to Allah(SWT) to guide this person and tell them that if they need more proof then they can pray to Allah(SWT) for guidance.
Why do you refer to people as beings?
Anyway I hope Allah(SWT) eases your illness.:tti_sister::tti_sister:

 

[ShyHijabi]

Asalaam aleakum,

Sorry but I am a bit confused here. You think if you can convince a non-Muslim about the truth of Islam it will cure you of an illness? I don't think that the two are related. Every illness is a test of Allah and not a punishment for someone else's belief.

 

[Janaan]

Wa'leykum Salaam Warahmatullaahi Wabarakatuh,

UKhty, like sis ShyHijabi said, I'm not really getting how your ilness will be cured, if the kaafir person reverts. Sis, Ilnesses can NEVER be cured by people unless The Knower of All Wills it subhanallah. But as for the Non-muslim person wanting stronger proof, yu can always give him A Mushaf with an English translation(I'd recommend that He should read surahs, Maryam and Yusuf first), along with deeny books, like hadiths or ones that talk about the Prophets' Lives. And In the End, If he's looking for 'more Proofs', even like you said, he has seen signs with his own eyes, then, leave Him to be whatever he wants.

I remember an Ayah on the 21st page, i believe, in surah Al-nisaa' where Allah SwT says, "Whoever contradicts the Messenger, after guidance has clearly been conveyed to him N chooses a path other than that of the Faithful Believers, We shall leave him In the path he has chosen and land him In hell"..Or something very close to that.

May Allah,The Helper, remove your ilness and guide the brother Insha'allah

 

[ahmed_indian]

:salam2:,

Quran is the greatest sign. prophet :saw2: being illiterate, brought Quran with such a beautiful message and wonderful style having the knowledge of nature and events of future.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

brothers and sisters, i am refering to jinns.

a jinn wont leave me unless i can prove islam to him.

i've tried and i left the rest to allah. when doing this, allah sent prophets and messengers, angels and aw'liya salihin people to me in dreams to fight the jinn away and they hurt him and burn him with quran. i feel allahs guidance around me. alhumdulilah.

this jinn said whats his seen and witnessed regarding the above, he feels allah does exist but is confused with the whole religion. he feels its not strong enough for him to convert over. he told me if i help him and prove islams strength and give facts of islam and attributes of allah, he will convert. once he converts, its proof my i will be cured from the possession. he will leave me alone.

but for now, he will stay in me for as long as i live and doesnt care who tries to hurt him or burn him with quran. this is a sign, the fact that quran burns him it means its real, but he says 'where is your lord who is a helper, why doesnt he help you and take me away if its so easy for him to do, why is he making you suffer'???

i told him, allah is testing my faith and patiance, my faith is stronger than ever alhumdulilah. this is also a test for you, for allah to see how far you go with kifar and since your a kafir, allah is giving you a chance to turn to islam and is testing you by burning you and allowing you inside me for the time been, until he see's if you will convert and believe in all the punishments and signs he sends you.
so either way, its a test for me and for you.

this is what i tell him, he says 'allah knows all things as you say, he will know if im going to convert and he will know when im going to leave, he wrote it, so i will rest and see what he wrote and wait for all to happen'

his crazy, a very crazy old jinn who i really am loosing control so i want to fight him and show the strength of islam to him.

my illness is a test for me, the fact that this jinn is asking and wanting more facts about islam in order to convert, this is a test for me too. so i want to pass this test and since his willing to convert, why not try helping him. afterall, i will benifit from this inshallah.

i want to show allah that i passed the test, i put up with the symptons and all the things the jinn did to me and my children adn husband, and i was strong enough by your will, to convert him to islam and prove him wrong and show him the strength of our religion and quran. i want to aim at this goal.

this jinn harrassed me, tried to break up my marriage, took my love for my kids away from me, i have speech problems, and physically ill. i feel his presence and he speaks through me and says all the above to my sheikh who reads on me to help my cure. my sheikh is busy right now and isnt able to help with my request. so i ask all brothers and sisters for there help.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

Wa'leykum Salaam Warahmatullaahi Wabarakatuh,

UKhty, like sis ShyHijabi said, I'm not really getting how your ilness will be cured, if the kaafir person reverts. Sis, Ilnesses can NEVER be cured by people unless The Knower of All Wills it subhanallah. But as for the Non-muslim person wanting stronger proof, yu can always give him A Mushaf with an English translation(I'd recommend that He should read surahs, Maryam and Yusuf first), along with deeny books, like hadiths or ones that talk about the Prophets' Lives. And In the End, If he's looking for 'more Proofs', even like you said, he has seen signs with his own eyes, then, leave Him to be whatever he wants.

I remember an Ayah on the 21st page, i believe, in surah Al-nisaa' where Allah SwT says, "Whoever contradicts the Messenger, after guidance has clearly been conveyed to him N chooses a path other than that of the Faithful Believers, We shall leave him In the path he has chosen and land him In hell"..Or something very close to that.

May Allah,The Helper, remove your ilness and guide the brother Insha'allah

thank you, i will listen to surah maryama and yusuf and read the translations.
i will look up where this quote about whoever contradicts the messenger etc. it sounds helpful. thank you again.

please read below, i mention who this being is and why / how this will help with my cure inshallah. if youu suggest anything else similar to this, let me know coz the above was very helpful inshallah.

 

[arzafar]

Ask him what he believes; i.e. whether he is muslim, hindu, crhistian, jew or athiest etc.

if he is jew, read to him surah baqrah especially the verses concerning the chidren of israel
eg. O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me. 2:40

for a christian read surah marium

for a hindu/athiest read verses of tawheed and others that show Allah's infinite power
eg surah ikhlas and ayatul kursi

and obviously to a jinn you have to read surah jinn. Also you can ask him to find muslim jinn who may help him learn more about Islam directly from a creation like himself.

for all of the above read surah al-fatiha

if he doesnt comply then the jinn must be burned.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

It's all in your head, sister. You believe you are possessed and that's why you feel what you feel. Jinn can do a lot of things but they do not possess people. It's a widespread myth. Recite the Quran often and pray for yourself and your friend. Do many good deeds and God will answer your prayers and remove your affliction and may guide your friend.
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yeah, your right, im probably crazy, its all in my head. i wish it was true, i would be able to control it with medications and all.

its not easy what i go through. its not easy at all.

maybe you should listen to surah al zalzalah 3 times through ear phones and play it loud. i hope you dont end up screaming or shaking from it or faint. coz if so, it means your possessed or sorry, its all in your head too.

this is a test i go through, and many people go through it too not just me. its a blessing to go through a test from allah because we get good deeds from fighting it and only allah knows what we go through, allah will reward us based on how we handle the test. lets see what test allah brings on you, thats only if allah chooses to test you.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

Ask him what he believes; i.e. whether he is muslim, hindu, crhistian, jew or athiest etc.

if he is jew, read to him surah baqrah especially the verses concerning the chidren of israel
eg. O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me. 2:40

for a christian read surah marium

for a hindu/athiest read verses of tawheed and others that show Allah's infinite power
eg surah ikhlas and ayatul kursi

and obviously to a jinn you have to read surah jinn. Also you can ask him to find muslim jinn who may help him learn more about Islam directly from a creation like himself.

for all of the above read surah al-fatiha

if he doesnt comply then the jinn must be burned.

this is so helpful. thank you and may allah give you reward for your possitive advice.
im dealing with a crazy hindu jinn

 

[arzafar]

salam
here is a link to the books about jinn that you may want to read.

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showpost.php?p=443918&postcount=30

 

[ShyHijabi]

yeah, your right, im probably crazy, its all in my head. i wish it was true, i would be able to control it with medications and all.

I am asking this question with all respect and honesty. Have you ever taken psych drugs such as anti-psychotics? If so, which ones?

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

I am asking this question with all respect and honesty. Have you ever taken psych drugs such as anti-psychotics? If so, which ones?

with all do respect and honesty, i kindly asked if each brother / sister could come up with just one positive sentence or few sentences / strong islamic facts, that would help me to convert someone to islam. so lets just stick to the topic and disregard everything else i've said in my messages. i wasnt going to say anything but i thought people here will understand and help but i guess i was wrong, they all judge and dont believe in what allah told us to believe in. subhan allah, may allah open your eyes to what is really hidden from us.

 

[ahmed_indian]

:salam2: sister *WithAllahsPowers*,

here we have few brothers and sisters who dont believe that jinns can possess humans or you have been possessed by one of those jinns. hope you'll overlook their mistake and forgive them sister.

may Allah help you.

PS: as you said that the jinn is hindu, is it possible if you could prove Islam to him thru hindu scriptures? eg. prophet Muhammed being mentioned, kalki avatar. i can send the info to you inshallah.

 

[saif]

medicines against spiritual disorders

:salam2:

I have not read all the posts but I want to draw everybody's attention towards a very simple conclusion from hadith.

It is well known, and I don't have time to search for the exact reference, that Prophet has said, that whoever eats 7 'ajwah dates no majic will harm him/her on that day. The simple conclusion, which I want to draw is, that physical things like dates or other medicines can also be a cure to spiritual disorders. This is why I always think, it is a good idea to go to a doctor, even if you think you are possessed by a jinn or affected by some majic.

What is your opinion on that conclusion, sister Dr. Shyhijabi?

 

[krackpot]

sister WithAllahsPowers please change your username. how can you have allah's powers???
no disrespect but please change it if you believe allah is alone with his sifa'at
ie: Asma ul husna. it is blashphemous to claim or say something like that.

if any non-muslim were to come across your name it would give a bad impression about islamic belief.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

sister WithAllahsPowers please change your username. how can you have allah's powers???
no disrespect but please change it if you believe allah is alone with his sifa'at
ie: Asma ul husna. it is blashphemous to claim or say something like that.

if any non-muslim were to come across your name it would give a bad impression about islamic belief.

yes your right, i didnt look at it like that. im sorry, i do have a speech problem and i find it hard to express myself.

the reason why i say withallahspowers, is because with the whole possession im going through, the jinns do have powers allah gave them, they take advantage of it and threat us, but i say 'allah has more powers over all creations and beings and all things, he created the jinn and gave them powers but he has more powers then them. we dont have powers to bet them but our faith in allah and WithAllahsPowers, inshallah we are stronger than these beings because allah is with us inshallah.'

it makes me feel so much stonger knowing with allahs powers, i will be cured, with allahs powers, he will burn the jinns, with allahs powers - allah has control over all things, with allahs powers - proves creation of this world, with allahs powers - allah created us and all creations and allah is so powerful no one can bet or try to bet him.

we can say all the above with other things like with allahs will, with allahs trust, with allahs blessings, with allahs love etc. but i want to be reminded everyday of the powers allah has and this helps me not to fear anyone or being except allah and it draws me to rely on allah more and more. not just coz allah is powerful but because of what allah has given us, created, deserves to be worshiped, etc.:tti_sister:

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

:salam2:

I have not read all the posts but I want to draw everybody's attention towards a very simple conclusion from hadith.

It is well known, and I don't have time to search for the exact reference, that Prophet has said, that whoever eats 7 'ajwah dates no majic will harm him/her on that day. The simple conclusion, which I want to draw is, that physical things like dates or other medicines can also be a cure to spiritual disorders. This is why I always think, it is a good idea to go to a doctor, even if you think you are possessed by a jinn or affected by some majic.

What is your opinion on that conclusion, sister Dr. Shyhijabi?

quran is more stronger and far more powerful cure than dates and medicines, the prophets confirm this and allah in the quran too. quran burns the jinns, i've seen it and witnessed it and feel it. allah is my hakim, my medicine is quran. its working but jinns are very stubborn.

why you call it spiritual disorders? its really possession and not spiritual. its the unseen world allah mentions in the quran. we therefore must believe and follow the quran and what allah warns us about. you think its a good idea to go to doctor, well the only place i havent been to is the mental institution, i've been to hospitals, doctors, specialist, phsycology etc, everyone says im normal. so thats more than enough to suggest im possessed. the medications i took, nothing worked, so they all said im normal. so that is enough again to suggest im possessed.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

sister WithAllahsPowers please change your username. how can you have allah's powers???
no disrespect but please change it if you believe allah is alone with his sifa'at
ie: Asma ul husna. it is blashphemous to claim or say something like that.

if any non-muslim were to come across your name it would give a bad impression about islamic belief.

i have tried to change the username but i dont know how.

i can see i can edit avatar, edit signature, edit email & password, edit options, edit ignore list which are all located under the 'your control panel'. i also looked under 'edit details' but cant find anything or any way to show how i can change username.

i can see 'custom user title' and i added 'we are protected' so my username is like this 'WithAllahsPowers, we are protected'. so it sounds better for the time been.

but i still want to change it since you said it gibes a bad impression about islamic belief and thats the last thing i want to cause or do.

please help me change my username, i am very slow so you have to give me easy baby steps. lol.

thank you.

 

[WithAllahsPowers]

:salam2: sister *WithAllahsPowers*,

here we have few brothers and sisters who dont believe that jinns can possess humans or you have been possessed by one of those jinns. hope you'll overlook their mistake and forgive them sister.

may Allah help you.

PS: as you said that the jinn is hindu, is it possible if you could prove Islam to him thru hindu scriptures? eg. prophet Muhammed being mentioned, kalki avatar. i can send the info to you inshallah.

yes you are right, i can see their disapproval of possession. but i dont understand why. they say coz its not in the quran or hadith, so if so, then should i just assume im crazy or something?

i forgive them and forgive everyone, but wish i knew / understood what is really going on.

i also think your right, i can try to prove islam to the jinn thru hindu scriptures. i did some research and hindu's believe in Abraham being their god and they follow him. i dont know who abraham is to them, either a person or they made up the name. so i will research more. in hindu, the religion is based on a not harming anyone and to stop your desires in order to stop doing harm. i did read a few things so im trying to make sense of things. anyway, i dont really understand what im suppose to expect or know regarding my illness. i will do what my heart feels right about and leave the rest to allah.