** 10 Reasons Why Jesus Isn't God- (Quotes From The Bible) **

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Waterdrop

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if GOD loves his creation, would he not love his son more. How could he then sacrifice him. What was the point of creating hell fire? christians have the belief that they will all enter heaven as long as they remain and die as christians.

I don't recall in School that we are all (Christians) going to die by hell-fire...

Muslims however know that some will enter hell then get out.
PLz tell me y is it so hard to believe that GOD created jesus peace be upon him just by saying be, and he then became, y does he has to be his son.

And i'll ask you, how come he can't be his son? Are you saying that God has human thoughts and would love him more?

What does it mean for Adam peace be upon him? he was created without a mother or father does that not make him more special?
So what is he then?

In God's eyes there is nothing special other than he was the first.
 
ShyHijabi

ShyHijabi

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Waterdrop,

I think both sides aren't getting the point of the other. Many bible verses showing that other members of the bible were considered the "son of God" but for some reason the Christians have decided that Jesus (pbuh) is now worthy of worship or at least the only way to approach God. The Catholics teach that Jesus (pbuh) is God in the flesh. The prostestants teach that only by approcahing God through Jesus (pbuh) can one enter heaven.

The reason a Muslim will not accept this is because it would be assigning a partner with God, in Islam this is called shirk and is considered the highest sin, one which is unforgiveable. Many times the bible (those ten commandments) says to have no other beings of worship, and the trinity is assigning other beings worthy of worship. This paradox among the Christians is truly perplexing, to claim to hold God on the highest level but then to claim there are two other beings that are part of this God. The trinity is polytheism dressed up as monotheism, plain and simple.

I was raised as an Orthodox Jew and thus know the "Old testament" fairly well. On my journey to truth I also read and studied the New Testament at length and was disturbed at how the Christians follow more of Paul's teachings, a man who never met Jesus (pbuh). He was the one who introduced the idea of worshipping or approaching God through Jesus (pbuh). Paul decided to abolish the kosher laws through a "vision" and also permitted all sorts of forbidden behavior. (though I find it humorous that Christian women don't cover their heads as he commanded yet will eat pork)

I challenge you to find the word "trinity" in the bible. Only one verse, a very ambigious verse, is used to justify the worship of the three god-head or trinity as you know it. You should research your history where the Council of Nicea actually VOTED on whether or not Jesus (pbuh) was devine. So the person you call the son of God and WORSHIP as a diety is due to a vote.

~Sarah
 
OsMaN_93

OsMaN_93

Here to help
:salam2:
today i can't b bothered to debate, so maybe next time.
JESUS IS MUSLIM 100%

:salam2:
PS. did u even look at the thread topic? and read the whole thing?
 
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abdelanas

Muslim warrior
:salam2:
as muslim we know that jesus was not god and that he was not crucified PHEW!But thanks for the post nice evidence!
:wasalam:
 
ohhockleng

ohhockleng

Junior Member
Waterdrop said:
He's God. He can do anything. To think otherwise is blashamy. According to the Christian Bible, Jesus is the son of God. It dosn't make sense that he is not.
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So you're saying that god makes love to human mary and mary is carrying the son of god?! Now that's blasphemy. Which is why I chose Islam not christianity, Islam is just pure common sense.
 
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Sister Fatma

Islam my Deen
Waterdrop said:
if GOD loves his creation, would he not love his son more. How could he then sacrifice him. What was the point of creating hell fire? christians have the belief that they will all enter heaven as long as they remain and die as christians.

I don't recall in School that we are all (Christians) going to die by hell-fire...

Muslims however know that some will enter hell then get out.
PLz tell me y is it so hard to believe that GOD created jesus peace be upon him just by saying be, and he then became, y does he has to be his son.

And i'll ask you, how come he can't be his son? Are you saying that God has human thoughts and would love him more?

What does it mean for Adam peace be upon him? he was created without a mother or father does that not make him more special?
So what is he then?

In God's eyes there is nothing special other than he was the first.
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I NEVER SAID THAT CHRISTIANS WERE GOING TO DIE BY HELL FIRE, WHERE THE HELL DID U GET THAT 4M? GET UR FACTS RIGHT!!!!!

Dude if god has a son this means that he has needs , human needs, how can he then be god.
If he has needs this means that he has weaknesses, how can he then be the all powerful. Only that, which was created has needs.

God created the ability to love, how do u think that humans have the ability too, it didn't come out no where. However this does not mean that he has to be human in order to love. humans create computers etc. does that mean that they have to be 1 in order to give it its function etc? i don't think so

You have the choice to believe whatever u wish too.
However don't try to preach when u can't explain the contradiction, and errors 4m ur book.
It's like saying the sky is purple, when ur eyez can clearly see it's blue.
It makes more sense that jesus peace be upon him is a prophet.
The son of god taking insults, being crucified etc. a little too weird.
If u were a boss of a company wouldn't son be treated better then everyone else, would u allow him to be crucified or insulted?
Or especially would u punish him for others?
 
podolski11

podolski11

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Waterdrop said:
In God's eyes there is nothing special other than he was the first.
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u mean jesus was his first son so thats why he was special??....ur saying thats jz the main reason??....i wonder which father enjoyed his son dying on a cross......lol that means he didnt like him at all thats why he died so miserably by some mere illeterate romans:lol::lol:
 
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Waterdrop

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podolski11 said:
u mean jesus was his first son so thats why he was special??....ur saying thats jz the main reason??....i wonder which father enjoyed his son dying on a cross......lol that means he didnt like him at all thats why he died so miserably by some mere illeterate romans:lol::lol:
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Acually I was talking about Adam, not jesus. :rolleyes:
 
justoneofmillion

justoneofmillion

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"If anyone disputes with you in this matter - after what has come to you of knowledge - then say: Come let us call our sons and your sons, our women and your women, our souls and your souls; then let us earnestly pray, and invoke the curse of Allah upon the liars" glorious quran al imran 61

this is a warning for those who deny their lord and are too arrogant to bow down with those who bow down,until the hour find s them by surprise so keep cracking jokes around...

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Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Hello Waterdrop

I think you should ponder upon what sister Shy Hijabi wrote and should read about Council of Nicea (c.325). Interestingly that Council itself did not prove enough for the issue of Trinity. At the Council of Nicaea, the debate was over the nature of Christ (begotten vs unbegotten). The nature of the Spirit was not an issue. It would be another fifty-six years before the institutional church would decree worship of the Holy Spirit. This was later cannonised by the Council of Constantinople (c.381) which decided upon the nature of Holy Spirit.
 
OsMaN_93

OsMaN_93

Here to help
Greetings!!
:salam2:
as you said God loves us so much ....

ok here is the problem!!! WORRY!!!

if he loves us so much, how come he will punish us for iternity if we don't believe???
i mean if a dad punishes his son, he will punish him 4 a short period not lock him up 4 iternity?
same with Christian God he loves everyone ..etc.. but he will burn and punish them 4 eternity!!!

in Islam, Allah does not love those who dont love him....
infact this is in the Quran, and Allah refutes u , by saying that if yr my children why wod i punish u?
:)DEBUNKED!
so ...waiting 4 yr reply:D

:salam2:
 
bloup1000

bloup1000

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salam

i totally agree and (god is born) i mean what in the world
that is totally faque and you shouldent even be able to see your god
 
TheHumbleWun

TheHumbleWun

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Waterdrop,

I want you to look at the following threads and tell me what you think....

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30439

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24043&page=13
http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24043&page=14

Do you know who wrote the Bible?

The Roman Catholic encyclopedia admits the Bible has been altered!

No book of ancient times has come down to us exactly as it left the hands of its author--all have been in some way altered.
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Source: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14530a.htm
 
Muslim-life

Muslim-life

Always Alhamdulilah
Absolutely Amazing!!!

Absolutely amazing!

Beauty of Mathematics !!!!!!!

1 x 8 + 1 = 9
12 x 8 + 2 = 98
123 x 8 + 3 = 987
1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876
12345 x 8 + 5 = 98765
123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654
1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543
12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432
123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321

1 x 9 + 2 = 11
12 x 9 + 3 = 111
123 x 9 + 4 = 1111
1234 x 9 + 5 = 11111
12345 x 9 + 6 = 111111
123456 x 9 + 7 = 1111111
1234567 x 9 + 8 = 11111111
12345678 x 9 + 9 = 111111111
123456789 x 9 +10= 1111111111 9 x 9 + 7 = 88

98 x 9 + 6 = 888
987 x 9 + 5 = 8888
9876 x 9 + 4 = 88888
98765 x 9 + 3 = 888888
987654 x 9 + 2 = 8888888
9876543 x 9 + 1 = 88888888
98765432 x 9 + 0 = 888888888

Brilliant, isn't it?

And look at this symmetry:

1 x 1 = 1
11 x 11 = 121
111 x 111 = 12321
1111 x 1111 = 1234321
11111 x 11111 = 123454321
111111 x 111111 = 12345654321
1111111 x 1111111 = 1234567654321
11111111 x 11111111 = 123456787654321
111111111 x 111111111 = 12345678987654321


Now, take a look at this...

101%



From a strictly mathematical viewpoint:



What Equals 100%?
What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?

We have all been in situations where someone wants you to
GIVE OVER 100%.

How about ACHIEVING 101%?


What equals 100% in life?


Here's a little mathematical formula that might help
answer these questions:


If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
If:


H-A-R-D-W-O- R- K
8+1+18+4+23+ 15+18+11 = 98%


And:

K-N-O-W-L-E- D-G-E
11+14+15+23+ 12+5+4+7+ 5 = 96%


But:

A-T-T-I-T-U- D-E

1+20+20+9+20+ 21+4+5 = 100%



THEN, look how far the love of God will take you:



L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D

12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101%


Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that:

While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will
get you there, It's the Love of God that will put you over the top!

It's up to you if you share this with your friends & loved ones just
the way I did..

Have a nice day & God bless!!







​
 
S

Sister Fatma

Islam my Deen
Muslim-life said:
Absolutely amazing!

Beauty of Mathematics !!!!!!!

1 x 8 + 1 = 9
12 x 8 + 2 = 98
123 x 8 + 3 = 987
1234 x 8 + 4 = 9876
12345 x 8 + 5 = 98765
123456 x 8 + 6 = 987654
1234567 x 8 + 7 = 9876543
12345678 x 8 + 8 = 98765432
123456789 x 8 + 9 = 987654321

1 x 9 + 2 = 11
12 x 9 + 3 = 111
123 x 9 + 4 = 1111
1234 x 9 + 5 = 11111
12345 x 9 + 6 = 111111
123456 x 9 + 7 = 1111111
1234567 x 9 + 8 = 11111111
12345678 x 9 + 9 = 111111111
123456789 x 9 +10= 1111111111 9 x 9 + 7 = 88

98 x 9 + 6 = 888
987 x 9 + 5 = 8888
9876 x 9 + 4 = 88888
98765 x 9 + 3 = 888888
987654 x 9 + 2 = 8888888
9876543 x 9 + 1 = 88888888
98765432 x 9 + 0 = 888888888

Brilliant, isn't it?

And look at this symmetry:

1 x 1 = 1
11 x 11 = 121
111 x 111 = 12321
1111 x 1111 = 1234321
11111 x 11111 = 123454321
111111 x 111111 = 12345654321
1111111 x 1111111 = 1234567654321
11111111 x 11111111 = 123456787654321
111111111 x 111111111 = 12345678987654321


Now, take a look at this...

101%



From a strictly mathematical viewpoint:



What Equals 100%?
What does it mean to give MORE than 100%?

Ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100%?

We have all been in situations where someone wants you to
GIVE OVER 100%.

How about ACHIEVING 101%?


What equals 100% in life?


Here's a little mathematical formula that might help
answer these questions:


If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z Is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.
If:


H-A-R-D-W-O- R- K
8+1+18+4+23+ 15+18+11 = 98%


And:

K-N-O-W-L-E- D-G-E
11+14+15+23+ 12+5+4+7+ 5 = 96%


But:

A-T-T-I-T-U- D-E

1+20+20+9+20+ 21+4+5 = 100%



THEN, look how far the love of God will take you:



L-O-V-E-O-F- G-O-D

12+15+22+5+15+ 6+7+15+4 = 101%


Therefore, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that:

While Hard Work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will
get you there, It's the Love of God that will put you over the top!

It's up to you if you share this with your friends & loved ones just
the way I did..

Have a nice day & God bless!!







​
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MASHA ALLAH is all i can say.
U must be very smart. may ALLAH SWT guard u ameen
 
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