Assalaam walaikum,
Sister, it is this simple..you have taken the words of the kufr as the truth.
I have asked you did the Taliban take responsibility for the bombing of the diplomatic mission..you did not provide proof.
What kind of diplomatic mission was this..you did not provide proof. What does her parents have to do with me being Muslim? Or anyone else on TTI.
If anything, sister, I always feel inadequate about my faith; I feel shame for the little I know, I Believe sister and in that I can not judge how Muslim someone is; I just work on Loving Allah.
Sister, slow down now...the Allah you know...I am not ready to go down that path at this moment. That is a very serious discussion. We can not compartmentalize Allah to fit our needs..it is the other way around...I seek to please Allah and make adjustments to my little ego to Please Him.
Well, sister since you asked I am sure there are members who will provide you with what is being done.
You said the Saudi's hate the Taliban; you did not say Muslims sister. You are getting so political. Where is the proof?
What is the agenda of those you hate sister. Please educate me as to why there is so much hate for a group of Muslims?
Sister Alf2; no we know women are stoned to death; women in the US are killed by guns..that is not the essence of this discussion. In the US we have a little catch phrase...it is called Domestic Violence..when we refer to anyone else we call them Taliban savages...Do you know the number of women who are beaten and killed here and the attackers get a slap on the wrist.
The key phrase that caught my eye was..The Taliban were blamed...and I wanted to know why. So far no one has answered me.
Its your judgement, Aapa.
I blame the Taliban and your response is "you are following the kufr". Examine your responses carefully. There is judgement embedded in them, and that is wrong, pure and simple.
I am now going to shatter your world. The Taliban are a political group, with a political agenda. They say they are muslims but who really knows what their level of faith is - do you know Aapa if they give zakaat, if they pray 5 times a day, if they help orphans. They are not spiritual mentors nor do they claim to be. Yet you say with certitude in your post tha they are a "group of muslims". Look, they are a political group, and hardly "friendly dictators". When the Soviets swooped in, they happily accepted the combat training that the USA offered them. So who is following the kuffr?????
Aapa, muslims have to behave in a morally superior way. Islam is about transparency. Adultery? Provide two witnesses. Marriage? Make sure there are at least two witnesses. Salaat? Say adhan, encourage everyone to pray together. A child is born? Anounce it in the mosque, perform a zabiha.
What are the Taliban doing to make their intentions and actions transparent? You are assuming that their actions are laced with spiritual benevolance. I maintain my position that when there are reports of children or women being harmed, there is no room for the benefit of the doubt. We have gone through brutal periods of history in the past, and we can no longer afford to re-live them. We have to look at these reports with a critical eye, and all true muslims have a duty to rise to the task of seeking the truth. Transparency sister. If the Taliban are being accused of such horrific brutality, why are they not stepping forward? In the Prophet's time, He wanted muslims to be
obvious: the little rules about men wearing their dress about their ankles, women wearing covering, adhaan, congregation...the Prophet wanted muslims to stand out so they were a distinct group as against the pre-dominantly non-muslim population. As muslims in the 21st century, we must do the same. If the political party that calls themselves the Taliban are being accused of injuring innocents, then the Taliban must come to the surface and fight those accusations. As with all things, actions speak louder than words.
And Aapa, how is domestic violence in the US relevant to the issue of stoning women in Iran and Afghanistan. Are you suggesting that as long as women are killed by their boyfriends in the US, it is ok for women to be stoned in Iran? I'm not following your logic. Women should not be stoned. Period. Women should not be killed by their boyfriends. Period. Muslims. Moral examples. Period. But here is the thing. If a man pulls out his gun and shoots me, that man is going to jail, and probably for the rest of his life. If a woman is raped, her perpretrator is arrested and jailed, and, she will receive compensation along with counselling and medical attention -- in some jurisdictions, for free. When a woman is stoned, burned, beaten etc in Afghanistan, is the outcome the same? Are her perpetrators jailed for life? Does the Taliban provide free counselling?
We are grown ups and our thinking must go beyond "two wrongs make a right." We are not speaking of the crimes against women that occurr in the western world, we are speaking of crimes and human rights abuses against women that are occuring in muslim societies where peace and justice must prevail as every woman's Islamic prerogative.
I have a huge problem with religious people accusing me or others of following the kuffr. Because it is a sin to do. On the day of Judgement, Allah will issue his opinion. But for you or anyone else to say I am following the kuffr - just because I disagree with your point of view....No one has the right to say that. There is pride and judgement and embedded in that attitude.
I find that when people on this forum disagree with each other, they judge. No one is better than the other.
