I want to end the confusion, inshaAllah.

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
:salam2:

Few days ago I got into a dispute which I would rather describe better as confusion or not understanding properly what some other members wanted to say. So to end that confusion and to express my way of understanding I am providing this excerpt from MUTTAQUN.COM which I believe is a reliable source, inshaAllah. It includes quotes from Shaykh al Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (RA) and the likes.

One think that I want to emphasise is that please, all the readers who are willing to read this, read the portions of the article related to naming oneself and the Fatwas of Shaikh Salih al Uthaymeen (RA) at the end of the article as the first Fatwa is exactly what I wanted to convey earlier to my fellow members.


I hope this will not be seen as a counter action but just as an expression and clarification of my point of view, inshaAllah.
I also want to apologise to those brothers and sisters whom, I feel, I have hurt or have said something wrong or harsh to. Forgive me for the sake of Allah and pray that Allah guide us all to the truth and unite us all upon it.
Salaf - literally means "those (from history) who precede, have gone before".

As-Salaf as-Saalih - The people of the past, namely the first three generations of pious muslims during and after the revelation of the Qur'an, i.e.the Sahabah (companions) of the Prophet, [FONT=Helvetica, Arial]saaws[/FONT] , the Taabi'een (followers) and the Taabi Taabi'een (followers of the followers).
Islam teaches that As-Salaf as-Saalih are superior in their understanding of the Revelation of Al-Qu'ran. Generally speaking, the people present during any event (such as the revelation of the Quran) will understand it better than those who read about it later.​
  • The Prophet, [FONT=Helvetica, Arial]saaws[/FONT], said: "I am leaving you two things and you will never go astray as long as you cling to them -- they are the Book of Allah and my Sunnah." [Reported by Al- Haakim - Sahih].
  • "The best of people is my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them (i.e. the first three generations of Muslims)." [Reported by Bukhari and Muslim- Mutawaatir. Muslim, Narrated 'Aisha - Shaykh Al Albaanee declares it Hasan in Saheeh Al Jaami' no.3288].
  • "The best of people are my generation, then the second, then the third, then there will come a people, having no good in them." [[related by Ibn Mas'ood] [Tabaraanee in Al-Kabeer] Shaykh Al Albaanee declares it to be Hasan. See Silsilatul Ahaadeeth ad-Da'eefah no.3569, and Saheeh Al Jaami' no. 3293.]
  • "My Ummah will not unite upon error." [Reported by at-Tirmidhee and Haakim - Sahih]
  • The best of people are my generation, then those who follow after them, then those who follow after them, then there will come after them a people who will be fat, and they will love obesity, bearing witness before being asked to."[related by the Umars, sons of Husayn(r)] [Tirmidthee, authenticated by Imaam Al Haakim] Shaykh Al Albaanee declares it to be Saheeh. See Silsilatul Ahaadeeth As-Saheehah no. 699, and Saheeh Al Jaami' no. 3294.​

Salafi - means "of the salaf". The "i" (sounds like "ee") on the end of the word means "of the", "of" and/or "are". Using correct arabic grammar, the word "salafi" can only be used in association with words that are of that which is truly from the far past.

In order to be a salaf, you had to exist generations prior to the current one. Referring to oneself as a salafi* is permissible in Islam so long as the intention is for identification with the salafi minhaj and this identification does not replace your identification as being MUSLIM, as this is what Allah swt has commanded us in The Qur'an to call ourselves.


While it is important, as many scholars have said, to distinguish ourselves from the innovators, we first do this in our actions (i.e. do not sit with the people of innovation, engage the sunnah in our daily lives, etc.), and to do so in speech, we can best do so by clearly stating that we are followers of the pious predecessors ("Ana a-taaba as-salaf as-saalih").
Those Muslims whose intentions are to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet [FONT=Helvetica, Arial]saaws[/FONT] and the salaf, know better than to divide themselves into a sect (a dissenting or schismatic religious body; especially one regarded as extreme or heretical) that parts from following clear proof in Quran and Sunnah.
  • "And this Ummah will divide into seventy-three sects all of which except one will go to Hell and they (i.e. the Saved Sect) are those who are upon what I and My Companions are upon (i.e. those who follow My Way and the Way of my Companions.)" [Reported by at-Tirmidhee - Hasan]
  • "Verily those before you from among the People of the Book split into seventy-two sects and verily this religion . . . ", and in another narration, " . . . this Ummah will split into seventy-three sects: seventy-two will be in the Fire and one in Paradise and that is the Jamaa'ah." [Reported by Abu Daawood - Sahih]
  • When questioned by his Companions about those who will be saved from the Fire, the Messenger (sallallaahu 'alaihi wasallam) replied: "They are those who are upon what I and my companions are upon." [Reported by at-Tirmidhee from Amr ibn al-Aas - classified as Hasan.]
A muslim may announce his intentions to adhere to the Dawat-us-Salafiyyah, which is identical to saying the dawah of Islam with mere emphasis on rejecting innovation in implementing and understanding the Qur'an and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad [FONT=Helvetica, Arial]saaws[/FONT] and accepting the guidance of the Salaf-as-Saalih (as instructed by Muhammad [FONT=Helvetica, Arial]saaws[/FONT] to do so). Because not one ounce of arrogance will make it into the gates of Paradise, no muslim would want to be so bold as to declare himself as a member of Firqatun-Naajiyyah (the saved group of Muslims), for only Allah swt knows who that truly is, but instead would speak of his intentions to be of the saved group, by his intentions to adhere to the dawat-us-salafiyyah.
  • Sheikh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah said: "It is self-delusion to say 'I am saved' and not pessimistic, for example being too secure saying 'I have the attributes of the salaf, I am saved', We still have to humble ourselves and not to say that we have the attributes of the Salaf. So I say to these people, not everybody who opposes me a thing from this path will become one of those who will perish, for verily the disputer may be a mujtahid who was wrong, and Allaah will forgive him his mistakes. Or maybe the proof did not reach him, enough to satisfy his needs (i.e. to understand it). Or maybe he has enough good deeds in which Allaah will wipe away his bad deeds."
  • "O you who believe! Do not put (yourselves) forward before Allâh and His Messenger (SAW), and fear Allâh. Verily! Allâh is All-Hearing, All-Knowing." [Surah al-Hujuraat 49:1].
  • "And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allâh (i.e. this Qur'ân), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allâh's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islâmic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allâh makes His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided." [Surah Al-Imrân 3:103].
Muslim - Whereas a person of a sect may improperly refer to himself as a Shia, Sufi, etc., those who adhere to dawat-us-salafiyyah describe themself as a "Muslim" whose minhaj (methodology/system) is Qur'an and Sunnah and madhdhab (way) is that of the salaf. There is ample proof to say it is more than sufficient to call oneself simply a Muslim.
  • And strive hard in Allâh's Cause as you ought to strive (with sincerity and with all your efforts that His Name should be superior). He has chosen you (to convey His Message of Islâmic Monotheism to mankind by inviting them to His religion, Islâm), and has not laid upon you in religion any hardship, it is the religion of your father Ibrahim (Abraham) (Islâmic Monotheism). It is He (Allâh) Who has named you Muslims both before and in this (the Qur'ân), that the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) may be a witness over you and you be witnesses over mankind! So perform As*!Salât (Iqamat-as-Salât), give Zakât and hold fast to Allâh [i.e. have confidence in Allâh, and depend upon Him in all your affairs] He is your Maula (Patron, Lord, etc.), what an Excellent Maula (Patron, Lord, etc.) and what an Excellent Helper! [Surah Al-Imrân 3:78]
  • Shaykhul-Islaam Ibn Taimiyyah reported that one of the Salaf (Pious Predecessors) said, "I do not mind which out of the two blessings was greater. that Allaah guided me to Islaam, or that he kept me away from these innovated sects. By Allaah , the Most High, in the Qur'aan He called us the Muslims, the Believers and the Worshippers of Allaah, so we will not leave the manes which Allaah has names us with in favour of names innovated by the people which they call themselves by and also their forefathers for which Allaah has send down no proof". (In al-Wasiyyatul-Kubraa.Taken from the Book Forty Hadeeth On: The Call to Islam and the Caller By Shaikh 'Alee Hasan 'Alee 'Abdul Hameed)​
  • Abu-I Aas, r.a., a companion of the Prophet (saaws) said: "Since I have now handed over to you what is rightfully yours, I now declare that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. By God, the only thing that prevented me from declaring my acceptance of Islam while I was with Muhammad in Madinah was my fear that you would think that I did so only to appropriate your wealth. Now that I have discharged my trust in this matter, I now declare that I am a Muslim."​
  • Ikrimah, r.a., a companion of the Prophet (saaws) said: ""I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger." The Prophet (saaws) then instructed him to say, "I call on God and those present here to witness that I am a Muslim who is a Mujahid and a Muhajir".
  • The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) commanded to kill him: he was a spy of AbuSufyan and an ally of a man of the Ansar. He passed a circle of the Ansar and said: I am a Muslim. A man from the Ansar said, Apostle of Allah, he is saying that he is a Muslim. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: There are people among you in whose faith we trust. Furat ibn Hayyan is one of them. [Abu Dawood #2646, Narrated Furat ibn Hayyan]
  • Then when 'Iesa (Jesus) came to know of their disbelief, he said: "Who will be my helpers in Allâh's Cause?" Al-Hawâriûn (the disciples) said: "We are the helpers of Allâh; we believe in Allâh, and bear witness that we are Muslims (i.e. we submit to Allâh)." [Surah Al-Imrân 3:52]
The belief that "times have changed" and that we should now do differently than what Allah swt commanded us, is an innovated madthab (way). There were sects during the time of the Prophet (saaws) and immediately following, just as there are today. The companions of 'Iesa (Jesus) and Muhammad, peace and blessings of Allah be upon them both, all referred to themselves simply as Muslims.

However, as Muslims, we must not dispute over simple titles, as the correct way of living is of upmost importance, not the labels we claim upon ourselves. Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid has said, "The one who is seeking salvation has to work hard to gain beneficial knowledge and do righteous deeds, and he should avoid vain arguments and futile discussions in which there is no benefit." What is important is that we implement the way of the salaf as-saalih in our daily lives, insomuch as it is consistent with Quran and Sunnah.

Names - you can name yourself, your masjid, your computer files, your associations, etc. - anything halal. For instance if a baby is named "Yasmin" meaning jasmine, the mother who chose the name is not stating that she IS a jasmine stone or even that she has the attributes of a jasmine; such a name is a permissible name because the item itself, the jasmine, is not haram. So if a name includes the word "salaf" anywhere in it, this is halal. However for a person of today to identify oneself AS a salaf is incorrect.
One can refer to himself as "muttaqi" (male) or "muttaqiyyah" (female) meaning of the muttaqun, but should not make a sunnah of calling himself a "muslim muttaqi". A person alive today can be muttaqi but cannot be salafi because s/he is not of the past.

Those who adhere to the sunnah of the Prophet, saaws, are sadly known as "strange", "odd", etc., to those who have abandoned such adherence. They (muslims on a misguided path) even get to the point that they find it odd that someone would just call themselves a MUSLIM and attach no special group name to the word muslim. Surely the people who deviate are the people who must find a new label for their group. The label "muslim" is the purest word and all we need, insha'Allah, i.e. it is the only identifying label that we should have as a tradition or sunnah for calling ourselves when refering to our faith.
  • The Prophet, saaws, has mentioned in his saying: "Islam began as a stranger and shall return as a stranger as it began. So give glad tidings to the strangers." [Reported by Muslim - Sahih].
  • And who is better in speech than he who [says: "My Lord is Allâh (believes in His Oneness)," and then stands straight (acts upon His Order), and] invites (men) to Allâh's (Islâmic Monotheism), and does righteous deeds, and says: "I am one of the Muslims." [The Noble Qur'an 41:33]

Definition of Salifiyyah
by Sheikh Ibn Al-Utaymeen
Yarhamahu Allah (May Allah have mercy on him)
From his book, "Liqaa-al-Baab al-Maftooh", Q # 1322



Muhammad Salih Ibn al-Uthaymeen said: "Salafiyyah is following the way of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and his Sahabah for they are our Salaf (predecessors) who preceded us, so following them is Salafiyyah. As for taking Salafiyyah as a special Manhaj such that everyone who differs with it is considered astray even if he was on the truth; then this is beyond doubt opposite to Salafiyyah.
All the Salaf called to Islam and to unite upon the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and they did not declare astray anyone who differs with them (in a certain issue) because of (a different) interpretation (Taweel), except in matters of Aqeedah because they considered him, who differed in Aqeedah as astray.
But, in our time, some who took the path of Salafiyyah consider astray everyone who differs from them even if the truth were to be on his side. And they took a Hizbi (partisan) Manhaj, just like the other Hizbs (parties), who divide the religion. This (their way) must be rejected and not be approved of.
It is said, 'Look at the way of the Salaf as-Salih and what did they do in regards to differences and wideness of their hearts with regards to Ikhtilaaf (differences) in matters in which Ijtihad was feasible. (They differed with each other) to the degree that they differed in big issues, in (minor) issues of Aqeedah and (minor) issues of knowledge - for example, some of them denied that Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) saw His Lord and some of them confirmed of it. Some of them said, 'the deeds would be weighted on the Day of Judgment', whilst others held that "the books which record the deeds will be weighed." They also differ in matters of Fiqh, Marriage, obligations, buying and selling, etc. Despite this, they did not declare each other astray.
Thus, Salafiyyah that is taken to mean a special party (Hizb) with specific rules whose members consider anyone who differs with them as astray then they have nothing to do with Salafiyyah.
But the Salafiyyah that is to follow the Salaf in beliefs, sayings, actions, their way of differing and unity, their way of being merciful and compassion to one another as the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) said, "You see the believers as regards their being merciful among themselves and showing love among themselves and being kind, resembling one body, so that, if any part of the body is not well then the whole body shares the sleeplessness (insomnia) and fever with it."Then this is the true Salafiyyah."

Warning to the followers of the salafi group
by Sheikh Ibn Al-Utaymeen
Yarhamahu Allah (May Allah have mercy on him)

From his [the Prophet](
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) statement,
"Whoever lives amongst you will see much differing, so adhere to my Sunnah",
It can be learnt that if parties (ahzaab) within the ummah emerge in increasing numbers then one should not affiliate himself to a party (hizb). In the past, many groups have appeared; Khawaarij, Mu'tazilah, Jahmiyyah, Shee'ah, even Raafidah. Then there appeared, later on Ikhwanis, Salafis, Tablighis, and all those like them. Put all of them to one side and take [the path] ahead. Which is what the Prophet
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guided to. "Adhere to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided caliphs." No doubt, it is obligatory for all Muslims to adopt the way of the salaf as their madhhab, not affiliation to a specific party (hizb) named, "The Salafis". It is obligatory for the Islamic Ummah to adopt the way of the salaf as-salih as their madhhab, not bigotry to those called "the salafis". Pay attention to the difference: There is the way of the salaf, and there is a party (hizb) called "the salafis".
What is the objective? Following the Salaf. Why? The salafi brothers are the closest sect to that which is right, no doubt, but their problem is the same as others, that some of these sects declare others as being misguided, they declare them to be innovators and as being sinners. We don't censure this, if they deserve it, but we censure handling this bid'ah in this way. It is obligatory for the leaders of these sects to get together and say, “Between us is the book of Allah, and the Sunnah of His messenger, so lets us judge by them and not according to desires, opinions and not according to personalities. Everyone makes mistakes and achieves correctness no matter what he has reached with regards to knowledge and worship. Infallibility is [only] in the religion of Islam."
In this hadeeth the Prophet
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guided to the way in which a person secures himself. He doesn't affiliate him to any sect, only the way of the salaf as-salih, to the Sunnah of our Prophet
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and the rightly guided caliphs.

The Noble Qur'an An-Nisâ' 4:115
And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers' way. We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination.

Shaikh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah commented on this verse: "All who contradict and oppose the Messenger after the right path has been clearly shown to them, have followed other than the Path of the Believers; and all who follow other than the Path of the Believers have contradicted and opposed the Messenger after the right Path has been shown to them. If one thinks that he is following the Path of the Faithful Believers and is mistaken, he is in the same position as one who thinks he is following the Messenger and is mistaken."
Source

JazakAllah khairan to all those who took the time out to read it.
:salam2:

P.S. I have changed the colours and format in few places and have ommited a part of the article. Anyone who wants to read it in its original form please refer to the link of the source provided.
 

IslamIsLight

Islam is my life
Staff member
salam aleikum
Jazakallah khair brother for this beneficial information.
This is very important point ,that everyone have to notice

There is the way of the salaf, and there is a party (hizb) called "the salafis".
What is the objective? Following the Salaf. Why? The salafi brothers are the closest sect to that which is right, no doubt, but their problem is the same as others, that some of these sects declare others as being misguided, they declare them to be innovators and as being sinners. We don't censure this, if they deserve it, but we censure handling this bid'ah in this way. It is obligatory for the leaders of these sects to get together and say, “Between us is the book of Allah, and the Sunnah of His messenger, so lets us judge by them and not according to desires, opinions and not according to personalities. Everyone makes mistakes and achieves correctness no matter what he has reached with regards to knowledge and worship. Infallibility is [only] in the religion of Islam."

waaleikum salam
 

BintMuhammad

New Member
Staff member
salam aleikum
Jazakallah khair brother for this beneficial information.
This is very important point ,that everyone have to notice



waaleikum salam

Wa alaikumussalaam waramatullaah,

Indeed sis. Even I, long time ago got really consfused as theres the Salafis whom I look upto yet there are the "Salafi's" who are so takfeeri authobillaah like some websites, best not to mention them. Jazaakallaau khayr bro Mohsin for posting.
 

lostlilly07

striving 4 Firadous
wa alaikum salaam

I completely understand the confusion, I too attend a salafi minhaj mosque but I make sure to tell people I am still a sunni muslim. Yet I often hear people saying I am salafi but not saying they are muslim.
 

alkathiri

As-Shafaa'i(Brother)
:salam2:

JazakAllah khair bro for putting it in colours, so that it is easier for us to understand.


It is pitiful that these kind of things are present in the ummah, where we start name or hizb calling. It scares away the reverts and the born muslim who rediscover the religion

By the way , i love Sheikh Muhammad ibn Salih...a lot....:hearts:
 

Amir_of_spain

Junior Member
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JazakAllah khair bro for putting it in colours, so that it is easier for us to understand.


It is pitiful that these kind of things are present in the ummah, where we start name or hizb calling. It scares away the reverts and the born muslim who rediscover the religion

By the way , i love Sheikh Muhammad ibn Salih...a lot....:hearts:

Asalam wailkium. Do you bros/sistas think this problem is predominantly in the uk? It sometimes feels the muslim community in the uk is obessed with claiming titles and fighting over which group is the true/right group. One student of knowledge said to us during a talk, that on the day of judgement, allah will judge on based on your deeds, not whether you belonged to a particular group or title. As shiekh hamza yusuf said if the house is on fire, we need to stop fighting over the furniture and out the fire out. Finally, another student of knowledge said, traditionally if a student of knowledge or even a scholar who was under the age of 30, such a person's opinion/view on a topic wouldn't have even been considered as they wouldn't have been considered as mature' (ie lived long enough to have learnt from scholars, experience etc). Yet i always see bros (undergraduates) in the uni prayer rooms debating out fiqhi issues and so forth, as imaam ghazali once said, people have reduced religion to argumentation and boosting.
 

Tru3m0sl3m

Brother in ISLAM
:salam2:
There is something that i want to add.. in my place if you want to bash someone or talk ill about or even BEAT HIM UP

Call him a salafi lol. There are a few brothers who have actually taken the beating for trying to correct people of their aqida, and they don't do that by calling themselves Salafi's but calling people to adhere to the manhaj of salaf-as-saleh.

All in all i've seen people just want to follow what they always want to follow.

There's another article on TTI "Introduction to Salafi Daa'wah" which i think there's some evidence where the early generations USED to call themselves salaf to stay away from innovated sects. I'll check on it ASAP.

P.S. I am kind of confused now.. Lolz
 

Tru3m0sl3m

Brother in ISLAM
:salam2:
My dear brothers and sisters DO CHECK the 6th and 7th response to this discussion over the article

An Introduction to the Salafi Da'wah - www.TurnToIslam.com


EDIT: Brother skywalker yes i am proud to be a MUSLIM Alhamdulillah but if i find someone worshipping graves or adhering to SHIRKiya manhaj i'll be trying to tell him about aDDAWATUS SALAFIYYAH(you know if he's alone otherwise i'll probably be in a hospital and the last thing that i'll remember would be "Is WAHABBI KO THOKDO"). Sorry for some silly jokes. Anyways what shaikh Al-Albani(rahimahullah) had to say about shortening "The Qur'an, the sunnah and the manhaj of salaf as saleh" to "salafi"

Read the below article for the exact words of the shaikh

Answers To Common Misconceptions On Naming with Salafiyyah - www.TurnToIslam.com

Sorry if i offend someone but it really hurts when people attack DawatusSALAFIyyah and say you cannot call yourself salafi bla bla call yourself just a muslim and they go on calling themselves "shaa'fee or hanafee" or some other names and thats strange

Jazakallahu khairan brother mohsin for this great article do check the other two links that i've posted :)
 

daywalker

Junior Member
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EDIT: Brother skywalker yes i am proud to be a MUSLIM Alhamdulillah but if i find someone worshipping graves or adhering to SHIRKiya manhaj i'll be trying to tell him about aDDAWATUS SALAFIYYAH
:salam2:

Its daywalker and not sky walker my dear brother. And i doubt you read the first thread(for 2nd time as i requested) which allready handles your posts automaticly. people just need to read with open eyes.

And you will give dawah of Islam and tell him to stay away from shirky minhaj.
"The Qur'an, the sunnah and the manhaj of salaf as saleh" to "salafi"

The Qur'an, the sunnah and the manhaj of salaf as saleh" to MUSLIM.

or do you think muslim follows somethign others?Dont come with what so called muslim do. QUran and sunnah is for Muslim, and not so called claimer muslim. and if you refering salafi as being a separate Hizb then read sh. uthemeyyn´s(rh) fatwa again.
Sorry if i offend someone but it really hurts when people attack DawatusSALAFIyyah and say you cannot call yourself salafi bla bla call yourself just a muslim and they go on calling themselves "shaa'fee or hanafee" or some other names and thats strange
Have you ever heard dawatuss hanifiyyah? dawatus shafiyyah? in any passport? by claiming salafi they refer to aqeedah and not fiqh.And nobody has a nick like salafi86,al-salafi and so on and not hanafi86.

And nobody attacks here dawatussalafiyyah. And no need to attck others to justify ownself.
 

Tru3m0sl3m

Brother in ISLAM
Assalmu'alaikum

Have you ever heard dawatuss hanifiyyah? dawatus shafiyyah?
No not the exact words but definitely Yes as far as following the madhab is concerned. Actually i am from India and you'll get to hear everything over here.. ;)

And i doubt you read the first thread(for 2nd time as i requested) which allready handles your posts automaticly. people just need to read with open eyes.

Well I did! and i totally agree with the fatwa i.e. claiming to be a salafee without having any attributes of the manhaj of the salaf

Muhammad Salih Ibn al-Uthaymeen said: "Salafiyyah is following the way of the Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and his Sahabah for they are our Salaf (predecessors) who preceded us, so following them is Salafiyyah. As for taking Salafiyyah as a special Manhaj such that everyone who differs with it is considered astray even if he was on the truth; then this is beyond doubt opposite to Salafiyyah.
All the Salaf called to Islam and to unite upon the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and they did not declare astray anyone who differs with them (in a certain issue) because of (a different) interpretation (Taweel), except in matters of Aqeedah because they considered him, who differed in Aqeedah as astray.
But, in our time, some who took the path of Salafiyyah consider astray everyone who differs from them even if the truth were to be on his side. And they took a Hizbi (partisan) Manhaj, just like the other Hizbs (parties), who divide the religion. This (their way) must be rejected and not be approved of.

I hope Insha'ALLAH your misconceptions will be cleared. One last sentence in this thread " To you your way, to me mine "
 

elmorro

Junior Member
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Just wanted to add something that could take the confusion out. Regarding the argument that our brothers Salafies use quite often wish is the " AL FIRQAH NNAJIYAH", in english (The Saved Sect). The prophet Alayhi Afdalo Salati Wa Salam did indeed say in the hadith : "And this Ummah will divide into seventy-three sects ". The rest of the hadith: " only one of them will enter Jannh" is "Mawdu3", which means Added. And there is no proof that our prophet salahllahoalyhiwasallam had said that.
This may offend some of us, but during a debate hosted by Sheikh Tarik Suwaidan. A brother salafi used this hadith and the replay by Seikh Souwaidan was what I mentioned above.
Personally I like the way salafies fight innovations, but sometimes when they claim they are the only true muslims. Sorry, that doesn't sound right.

And Allah knows best !!
 
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