If we cant eat pig, why are they here?

Waseem203

Young Muslim
Salam alikom.

I've been getting all kinds of questions shot out at me lately--no matter how ignorant they are-- I try my best to answer them. However I've gotten one from a Jewish friend that's in my Science class in high school a few days ago. He asked me what was the Islamic reason for pig being forbidden. I explained to him that pig was made unclean by Allah and therefore not healthy for us ( I talked about the very nature of a pig that makes him unclean, such as eating his own feces, and rolling in mud all day) I was shocked at this , but he said despite the fact that hes Jewish him and his parents eat pig, simply because they beleive that theres no genuine reason for it to be disallowed. So they concluded that the verse in the Torah disallowing it is a fake, because if God diden't want us to eat it, why is it there? I explained to him that each animal has it's role in the enviorment, a pig has it's position in the food chain, if it were removed the whole chain would broken. This apparently was not good enough for him. And finnally, he also asked me how come the Quran only forbids the "lahem" (meat) of the pig and not the whole thing, such as it's grease or skin? If anyone can help me explain both points better i'd be really thankful.

Salam.
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Salaam,

Ahhhhh cafeteria Jews (they pic and choose what to follow), they drive my family nuts. His parents might as well just embrace their secularism and stop pretending to be Jews, they are not supposed to pick and follow which of the 613 commandments are convienent.

As far as why we can't eat pig and why the pig is here, well you gave a good and honest repsonse. And we are not allowed to consume any part of the animal, whether it's just the fat of it etc., We can wear the leather because well...that doesn't effect our health. Islam is a common sense religion.

Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by their logic they should eat those too. While they're at it, can they mow my lawn by eating my grass? I mean, it was created therefore must be consumed. :) Of course I am speaking with tongue firmly planted in cheek here.

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

Ghareebah

Bint Abdulkadir
Salaam,

Ahhhhh cafeteria Jews (they pic and choose what to follow), they drive my family nuts. His parents might as well just embrace their secularism and stop pretending to be Jews, they are not supposed to pick and follow which of the 613 commandments are convienent.

As far as why we can't eat pig and why the pig is here, well you gave a good and honest repsonse. And we are not allowed to consume any part of the animal, whether it's just the fat of it etc., We can wear the leather because well...that doesn't effect our health. Islam is a common sense religion.

Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by their logic they should eat those too. While they're at it, can they mow my lawn by eating my grass? I mean, it was created therefore must be consumed. :) Of course I am speaking with tongue firmly planted in cheek here.

Wasalaam

~Sarah

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lol you made laugh sister...good response...every creature is here for a purpose, whether we know it or not..Allah is testing our faith by telling us to stay clear of things he has forbidden, and besides what has been permitted to eat is far more numerous than what has been forbidden. can human beings not stay away from the few that has been made haram?...well this goes to show it
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
:salam2:

Well being that Allah has forbidden it should be good enough. Allah is All-knowing. Besides we can try to figure out why but who knows. But with that said the cosumption of pork have been scientifically proven to cause harm to ones body. Due to various reasons high blood pressure, parasites, clogged arteries, etc... and it does not stop there. But Allah prohibiting it consumption is all we need. It just shocks we how people take things that are clearly prohibited and try to make it permissable to fit their lifestyle. I have seen this done with pork, smoking, alcohol, etc.. the list on and on. :astag:

Salam Amirah80
 

amirah80

*Fear Allah*
:salam2:

Why does Islam forbid pork, when the pig is one of the creations of God?.

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Our Lord has forbidden eating pork in definitive terms. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Say (O Muhammad): I find not in that which has been revealed to me anything forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be Maytah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth (by slaughtering or the like), or the flesh of swine (pork); for that surely, is impure or impious (unlawful) meat (of an animal) which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols, or on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering)”

[al-An’aam 6:145]

By the mercy of Allaah and His kindness towards us, Allaah has permitted us to eat all good things, and He has not forbidden anything but those that are impure. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“…he allows them as lawful At‑Tayyibaat (i.e. all good and lawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods), and prohibits them as unlawful Al‑Khabaa’ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons and foods)”

[al-A’raaf 7:157]

We do not doubt for an instant that the pig is a dirty and filthy animal, and that eating it is harmful to man. Moreover it lives on dirt and filth, and it is something that is off-putting to those of a sound nature who refuse to touch it, because eating it is either a cause or a sign of a person’s oddness.

Secondly:

With regard to the physical harm caused by eating pork, modern science has proved a number of things, such as the following:

‎ Pork is regarded as one of the kinds of meat that contain the most cholesterol, an increase of which in the bloodstream leads to an increased likelihood of blocked arteries. The fatty acids in pork are also of an unusual formation, when compared with the fatty acids in other types of food, which makes them more easily absorbed by the body, thus increasing cholesterol levels.

‎ Pork meat and pork fat contribute to the spread of cancers of the colon, rectum, prostate and blood.

‎ Pork meat and pork fat contribute to obesity and related diseases that are difficult to treat.

‎ Eating pork leads to scabies, allergies and stomach ulcers.

‎ Eating pork causes lung infections which result from tapeworms, lungworms and microbial infections of the lungs.

The most serious danger of eating pork is that pork contains tapeworms which may grow to a length of 2-3 meters. The growth of the eggs of these worms in the human body may lead to insanity and hysteria if they grow in the area of the brain. If they grow in the region of the heart that may lead to high blood pressure and heart attacks. Another kind of worm that is to be found in pork is the trichinosis worm that cannot be killed by cooking, the growth of which in the body may lead to paralysis and skin rashes.

The doctors have confirmed that tapeworm disease is regarded as one of the serious diseases that may result from eating pork. It may develop in the small intestine and after several months may grow into a large worm whose body is composed of a thousand segments, with a length of 4-10 meters, which lives alone in the intestine of the infected person and part of it may appear when he defecates. When the pig swallows and ingests its eggs, they enter the tissues and muscles in the form of larvae sacs containing fluid and the head of the tapeworm. When a person eats infected pork, the larva turns into a complete worm in the intestine. These worms cause weakness and vitamin B12 deficiency, which leads to a specific type of anaemia, which may in turn cause nervous problems. In some cases the larvae may reach the brain, causing convulsions, increased pressure within the brain, epilepsy and even paralysis.

Eating pork that is not thoroughly cooked may also lead to trichinosis (infestation with a hairlike nematode worm). When these parasites reach the small intestine, three to five days later many larvae appear which enter the intestine and reach the blood, from which they reach most of the tissues of the body. The larvae move to the muscles and form cysts there, and the patient suffers intense muscle pains. The disease may develop into infection of the cerebral membrane and brain, and infections of the heart muscle, lungs, kidneys and nerves. It may be a fatal disease in rare cases.

It is well known that there are some diseases that are unique to humans and are nor shared with any other animals except pigs, such as rheumatism and joint pain. Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning):

“He has forbidden you only the Maytah (dead animals), and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allaah (or has been slaughtered for idols, on which Allaah’s Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But if one is forced by necessity without willful disobedience nor transgressing due limits, then there is no sin on him. Truly, Allaah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful”

[al-Baqarah 2:173]

These are some of the harmful effects of eating pork. Perhaps after studying them you will not have any doubts that it is forbidden. We hope that this will be the first step in your being guided towards the true religion. So stop, research, look and think, objectively and fairly, seeking only to find out the truth and follow it. I ask Allaah to guide you to that which is best for you in this world and in the Hereafter.

But even if we did not know about the harmful effects of eating pork, this would not change our belief that it is haraam in the slightest, or weaken our resolve to abstain from it. You know that when Adam (peace be upon him) was expelled from the Garden, it was because he ate from the tree from which Allaah forbade him to eat. We do not know anything about that tree, and Adam did not need to enquire into the reason why it was forbidden to eat from it. Rather it was sufficient for him, as it is sufficient for us and for every believer, to know that Allaah has forbidden it.

Look at some of the harmful effects of eating pork; look at the research of the Fourth Annual Conference of Islamic Medicine, Kuwait edition, p. 731 ff; and al-Wiqaayah al-Sihhiyyah fi Daw’ al-Kitaab wa’l-Sunnah by Lu’lu’ah bint Saalih, p. 635 ff.

But we ask you once again: Isn’t pork forbidden in the Old Testament which forms part of your Holy Book?

“Do not eat any detestable thing. These are the animals you may eat… The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud, you are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses.”

(Deuteronomy 14:3-8)

See also Leviticus 11-1-8.

We do not need to quote evidence that pork is forbidden for the Jews. If you have any doubt then ask people and they will tell you. But what we think we need to draw you attention to is some other things that are also mentioned in your Holy Book, this time in the New Testament which tells you that the rulings of the Torah still apply to you and cannot be changed. Does’t it say in the Bible that the Messiah said:

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.”

Matthew 5:17-18?

With this text, we do not need to look for another ruling on pork in the New Testament, but we will add here another quotation which shows definitively that pork is impure:

“A large herd of pigs was feeding on the nearby hillside. The demons begged Jesus: ‘Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.’ He gave them permission, and the evil spirits came out and went into the pigs.”

Mark 5:11-13

Perhaps you will say that this is abrogated, and that Peter said such and such and Paul said such and such…?

This is changing the words of Allaah and abrogating the Torah and the words of the Messiah who confirmed to you that it would abide as long as heaven and earth remain. Can this be abrogated by the words of Paul or Peter?

Let us assume that this is true and that the prohibition was indeed abrogated, but why are you criticizing this prohibition in Islam when it was prohibited for you at first?

Thirdly:

With regard to your saying that if eating it is forbidden, then why did Allaah create pigs? We do not think that you are serious, otherwise we would ask you: why did Allaah create such and such of other things that are harmful or repulsive? Rather we would ask you: why did Allaah create the Shaytaan?

Is it not the prerogative of the Creator to command His slaves as He will, and to rule them as He will. No one can overturn His ruling or change His words.

Is it not the duty of the created being, the slave, to say to his Lord, whenever He commands him to do something: “We hear and we obey”?

You may enjoy its taste and want to eat it, and those around you may enjoy it, but doesn’t Paradise deserve some sacrifice on your part of that which your heart desires?.


Islam Q&A
 

autumn

Strength in Unity
salam
that is challenging quetion and what everyone here say is true. i know that they have this kind of worm in their meat and that is very dirty and causes health problems. and maybe to test us also. to see if we will eat it when God has forbidden us.
 

warda A

Sister
Salaam,

Ahhhhh cafeteria Jews (they pic and choose what to follow), they drive my family nuts. His parents might as well just embrace their secularism and stop pretending to be Jews, they are not supposed to pick and follow which of the 613 commandments are convienent.

As far as why we can't eat pig and why the pig is here, well you gave a good and honest repsonse. And we are not allowed to consume any part of the animal, whether it's just the fat of it etc., We can wear the leather because well...that doesn't effect our health. Islam is a common sense religion.

Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by their logic they should eat those too. While they're at it, can they mow my lawn by eating my grass? I mean, it was created therefore must be consumed. :) Of course I am speaking with tongue firmly planted in cheek here.

Wasalaam

~Sarah

:salam2:
:ma:
You have a real sense of humor
that made my day and i think such kind of people really need the kind of answers you have put forward.
Some people do not want to know the reasons behind anything, they just like to argue, so they should be answered in the way Sarah has given.
Come eat my grass too, Lolz
 

shichemlydia

Junior Member
trial to anwer....

salam alikoum,
first the pig is haram in islam and was forbidden also to the people of the books. sometimes we do not have to ask why allah chose that for us, because our knowledge is really nothing beside the knowledge of the almighty. why pig is here, snakes are also here and none wonder about their role, so ask him why you do not eat snakes.....they are here too, ask him about monkeys, mouses, cats....
and finally tell him that allah is the one who decrees and we just follow, and we are not asked to negociate with him. sometimes we may understand the wisdom behind things and sometimes we cannot.
if you read the story of moses with the people of israel, yopu will see that these jewish have all the ages like this, debating with the prophets....and then killing them.
wa salam alikoum
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
:salam2:ever tried hamsters bro!forget about the pig...

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yummmmmy..miam...

Ps.i think your questions have been answered already,just thought of bringing some taste to the whole piggy yukky stuff:D

wassalaam
jameel
 

Mairo

Maryama
LOL! Thanks for that brother, can always count on you for a laugh, in spite of everything, at just the right time :)

again, I sincerely thank you for all of your efforts to protect your sisters in Islam from all harm, it is greatly appreciated. More than you may ever know or realize.

Jazak Allahu Kharain
May Allah Reward You
 

sandra canada

Laa ilaha illa Allah


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Waseem203

Young Muslim
Thanks a lot everyone , i'l be sure to mention this to him today. Hehe, you made me laugh brother Jameel and Sister Sarah :)
 

Raihan

Junior Member
FYI, nowhere in the Quran does it say that pigs are unclean creatures! It is in fact mentioned in the Bible, and not in the Quran. So, please do not embarrass yourself. The Creator of the Universe Has forbidden pork, and that's it. If someone wants more explanation then you can explain to him/her from logical and scientific viewpoints. But please do not say that pigs are unclean and that's why their meats are forbidden! No, this may not be the reason.
 
Salaam,

Life is a test! If it wasn't people would follow their own whims & desires (i.e. your Jewish classmates). Their logic has a flaw. Will they eat rats, bats, bees, or how about some tasty poison ivy, a venemous scorpion, wasp, or cobra. These animals have their own purpose on earth. The pig is scientifically proven to cause many health problems. It's one of the filthiest animals on earth. It eat's it's own feaces! Tell them go to a farm and observe rather then blindly eat whatever is on their plate.
 

Raihan

Junior Member
[I fondly remember one of the brilliant observations of the late Sheikh Shaarawi, may God bless his soul. He observed that there are two prominent stones in the pilgrimage rituals. One is dignified and we are commanded to honor it and kiss it if we can, the black stone, and another is cursed and we are commanded to throw seventy pebbles at it! Why is one stone so special and another condemned? Because God said so!]

Sorry! It's not in the Quran, and therefore God cannot say so! It's simply a tradition.
 
FYI, nowhere in the Quran does it say that pigs are unclean creatures! It is in fact mentioned in the Bible, and not in the Quran. So, please do not embarrass yourself. The Creator of the Universe Has forbidden pork, and that's it. If someone wants more explanation then you can explain to him/her from logical and scientific viewpoints. But please do not say that pigs are unclean and that's why their meats are forbidden! No, this may not be the reason.


Salaam,

The Quran wants man to use their intellect and go out in the world and search, research, experiment, use reasoning. For example, "The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the Spider, who builds (to itself) a house; but truly the flimsiest of houses is the Spider's house; if they but knew" (29:41). How would we know? By studying it! Reflecting on it. It's the same concept.
 

Khalil2u

Junior Member
STAY AWAY FROM THAT PORK

Salaam,

Living in US it is very hard for me to adjust to the Islamic ways of life. Eating pork is the one thing Allah has taken out of my life. Subhanallah. The Quran and the Torah specifically state not to eat pork. That should be enough. So when a Jew asks this question ask him do you have faith? As far as people from other religions I think your answer is great.
 

justcelebre

Junior Member
Salam,

Correct me if I'm wrong but I read somewhere that the reason Allah Swt invented pigs was because during Noah's time, when he was building the ark and filling it with animals before the flood, there were lots of feaces on the flooring of the ark from the animals. Thus, the reason why pigs existed then was that pigs "cleaned" the floor by eating up all the feaces of other animals which concludes why it is haram to eat it.
 

xSharingan01x

TraVeLer
Salaam,


Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by their logic they should eat those too. While they're at it, can they mow my lawn by eating my grass? I mean, it was created therefore must be consumed. :) Of course I am speaking with tongue firmly planted in cheek here.

Wasalaam

~Sarah
:salam2:
:lol::lol:
HAHAHHAA
That made my day. I can't stop laughing!!! I didn't know that you could be so funny!
Seriously, I can't stop laughing!
:lol::lol:

:wasalam:
 
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